14 years and counting...

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

unsung said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

The Nazi comparisons really are hysterical. All you are doing in minimizing the Holocaust. At least keep the comparison in context.

Geezuz Unsung.

Nobody is comparing this point in time to the aftermath of the Holocaust. They're expressing that there are similarities between now and the outset of the Nazi part and its ambitions.

Its hysterical if you can't acknowledge these which are obvious as the nose
on your face.

Thirty all the Nazi comparisons do is minimize what happened during that time, as if the plights are the same. It is ridiculous. A closer comparison would be the internment camps where FDR locked away people, mainly because they didn't GET MURDERED.

By all means keep the comparisons coming and when Trump get re-elected you only have to look in the mirror as why.

Nobody is buying the Nazi comparison.

people are comparing it to the RISE of Naziism, not to the aftermath.

when Trump was in South Carolina at a rally last night, he fucking said "the media is the enemy of the people".

imagine if (non-wanna-be) dictators used twitter. I'd imagine they'd sound quite a bit like Trump.

and "maxine waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person...". forget the horrendous structure of that sentence, the absolute immaturity and idiocy it takes to write something like that is astounding.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

Ledbetterman10 · June 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

Ledbetterman10 · June 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

I think Canada is close to capacity ... I know we are the 2nd largest country on the planet ... but much of Canada no - one wants to live there.

I believe I read somewhere that 80% of the Canadian population is in the bottom 5% of the country. Most of these asylum seekers have never dealt with the cold they face in Canada ... so I only think is natural that they'd migrate to the warmest areas of the country, then there is the assimilation factor and services. The services that asylum seekers need are in the larger cities. In our local paper they had a storey about Syrian refugees that migrated to Newfoundland and are now headed to Ontario for better weather and services.

rgambs · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

Immigrants, for whatever reason, have well earned reputations for working their asses off and rising through economic classes quickly, pulling their local economies right along with them.
There's a reason that foreign owned small businesses is such a strong cliché/stereotype.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

By the way Trudeau cabinet doesn't recognize the face of canada...

That idiot Trudeau missed a real opportunity with electoral reform by not setting First Nation ridings only ... First Nation reserves should have their own MP's and MPP's ... I want our First Nations to have a much stronger voice in government.

Ledbetterman10 · June 2018

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

PJ_Soul · June 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

The Nazi comparisons really are hysterical. All you are doing in minimizing the Holocaust. At least keep the comparison in context.

Geezuz Unsung.

Nobody is comparing this point in time to the aftermath of the Holocaust. They're expressing that there are similarities between now and the outset of the Nazi part and its ambitions.

Its hysterical if you can't acknowledge these which are obvious as the nose
on your face.

Exactly. It's like unsung is under the impression that the Nazi Party in Germany is ONLY about the holocaust, like somehow all those years prior to WWII are meaningless and offer no political lessons or reference points. It's also like he is incapable of understanding the definitions of "parallels", "similarities" and "comparisons", and can't understand the concept of context. It's so dumb I find it hard to believe he really can't manage to wrap his head around it. Suggesting that the comparisons made to Nazi Party tactics minimize the holocaust is mindblowingly moronic. But I know it's yet another little argument the alt-right loves to spew, since they have no real defense. When all else fails, spew stupid bullshit.
BTW unsung, while the Japanese internment camps are ANOTHER thing to compare Trump's border crackdown to, as George Takei (who was in the those camps) mentioned, even the Japanese internment camp program didn't dare to separate children from their parents.... You know that something can be compared to multiple things, right? There are loads of horrific political regimes or government actions from throughout history that we can easily find parallels to when it comes to Trump's actions and tactics. It's just that the MOST similarities are found in the Nazi political regime's tactics.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

It's a huge strain. We regularly can wait 8+ hours in the ER. The other problem that you never hear discussed is that many of these immigrants and migrants live multiple families to a single dwelling house but only pay a single property/education tax...unless I'm mistaken...but I now I pay my taxes and there is no where that ask if more than 1 family resides in this residence.

Meltdown99 · June 2018

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

It's a huge strain. We regularly can wait 8+ hours in the ER. The other problem that you never hear discussed is that many of these immigrants and migrants live multiple families to a single dwelling house but only pay a single property/education tax...unless I'm mistaken...but I now I pay my taxes and there is no where that ask if more than 1 family resides in this residence.

Our federal government just gave Ontario 50 million to help cope ... why not 50 million to help the homeless/homeless vets in which case many of these people are unemployable...pretty sad how our government treats the least vulnerable.

dignin · June 2018

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

https://www.cgdev.org/blog/real-economic-cost-accepting-refugees

dignin · June 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion?

Yikes.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

https://globalnews.ca/news/2228972/reality-check-are-refugees-an-economic-burden/

A study released this week from Oxford Economics, a U.K-based forecasting and analysis firm, estimated the impact 1 million new asylum-seekers will have on Germany, the world’s fourth-biggest economy. The researcher found that if Germany accepted an extra 1 million refugees over the next three years, it “could raise GDP by 0.6% by end-2020 and reduce inflationary pressures.”

That boost to Germany’s GDP, according to the Oxford Economics research, would come thanks to a “rise in the labour supply” which would also “ease growing supply bottlenecks in the labour market and ease wage pressures.”

dignin · June 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/2228972/reality-check-are-refugees-an-economic-burden/

A study released this week from Oxford Economics, a U.K-based forecasting and analysis firm, estimated the impact 1 million new asylum-seekers will have on Germany, the world’s fourth-biggest economy. The researcher found that if Germany accepted an extra 1 million refugees over the next three years, it “could raise GDP by 0.6% by end-2020 and reduce inflationary pressures.”
That boost to Germany’s GDP, according to the Oxford Economics research, would come thanks to a “rise in the labour supply” which would also “ease growing supply bottlenecks in the labour market and ease wage pressures.”

Stop with the facts, it doesn't fit my opinion.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2018

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html

The recent news that settling 25,000 Syrian refugees in Canada will cost $1.2 billion over the next six years has some questioning whether the government’s humanitarian mission is worth the price.

But many experts say cost is just one side of the equation. On the other side are the economic benefits to be had from the arrival of refugees from a country known for its relatively skilled work force.

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