14 years and counting...

14546485051174

Comments

  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    And several other central and South American countries? 
     
    If it gives the countries back to the majority of good people there why not. We would be able to have a more open border. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    benjs said:
    I may have a different opinion than some here. I don't believe my freedom of speech should be impeded by my government, but by my society. The double-edged sword to this is that whether my society becomes progressive and accepting, or a regressive and intolerant one, the citizenry (we) are the architects of our future society.

    If I want to treat any group with special treatment, that's my prerogative, and with that act, I accept that there are potentially going to be social ramifications which could include legal protests and boycotting of my business, as are within the rights of the citizenry. I disagree with the government's intervention in such matters, as I believe we need an engaged citizenry to discuss what is just and right, and what is unjust, rather than giving us a free pass while the government mandates ethics (meaning we never truly seek justice, we only seek living within legal boundaries). The baker risked his credibility amongst society, just as the restauranteur did. Society (we) must speak up on which we deem acceptable. 

    So how do you feel about the civil rights movement and what the Johnson  administration did?

    Johnson administration: 1963–1968

    Lyndon Johnson made civil rights one of his highest priorities, coupling it with a whites war on poverty. However in creasing the shrill opposition to the War in Vietnam, coupled with the cost of the war, undercut support for his domestic programs.[215]

    Under Kennedy, major civil rights legislation had been stalled in Congress his assassination changed everything. On one hand president Lyndon Johnson was a much more skillful negotiator than Kennedy but he had behind him a powerful national momentum demanding immediate action on moral and emotional grounds. Demands for immediate action originated from unexpected directions, especially white Protestant church groups. The Justice Department, led by Robert Kennedy, moved from a posture of defending Kennedy from the quagmire minefield of racial politics to acting to fulfill his legacy. The violent death and public reaction dramatically moved the moderate Republicans, led by Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen, whose support was the margin of victory for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The act immediately ended de jure (legal) segregation and the era of Jim Crow.[216]

    With the civil rights movement at full blast, Lyndon Johnson coupled black entrepreneurship with his war on poverty, setting up special program in the Small Business Administration, the Office of Economic Opportunity, and other agencies.[217] This time there was money for loans designed to boost minority business ownership. Richard Nixon greatly expanded the program, setting up the Office of Minority Business Enterprise (OMBE) in the expectation that black entrepreneurs would help defuse racial tensions and possibly support his reelection .


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement#Johnson_administration:_1963–1968


    Do you disagree with this kind of intervention? I would argue that when human rights are being infringed upon government should do what's right.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    What’s the gay chromosome called?
    OH. BOY. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,198
    What’s the gay chromosome called?
    If you take a close look at the DNA Helix you will see that the gay chromosome  is nowhere near the ignorance chromosome.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    If it gives the countries back to the majority of good people there why not. We would be able to have a more open border. 
    jesus. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    If it gives the countries back to the majority of good people there why not. We would be able to have a more open border. 
    And I'm betting there would be a load of people from thise countries helping us. You think the people wouldn't prefer to live and prosper in their own country. People don't want to flee to another country and have their families seperated. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,855
    edited June 2018
    And I'm betting there would be a load of people from thise countries helping us. You think the people wouldn't prefer to live and prosper in their own country. People don't want to flee to another country and have their families seperated. 
    It’s true that people don’t want to flee to other countries, but it’s also true that people don’t generally want another country’s army invading them.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    It’s true that people don’t want to flee to other countries, but it’s also true that people don’t generally want another country’s army invading them.
    Unless their country has been overtaken by corrupt crimminals. The people down there are trying to form their own "armies" to combat the drug lords down there. This applies to anyone. Don't defend the corrupt. It makes it look like you have a stake in it. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Unless their country has been overtaken by corrupt crimminals. The people down there are trying to form their own "armies" to combat the drug lords down there. This applies to anyone. Don't defend the corrupt. It makes it look like you have a stake in it. 
    yeah, often is defending the corrupt. HAHA. that's exactly what he is doing. HAHAH
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    mrussel1 said:
    So you think that for the last thousand years, people just "chose" to be gay?  Were they intrigued by the thought of being ridiculed, isolated, persecuted, and murdered?  Perhaps they thought it was a good idea to have fewer benefits than the rest of society.  Odd that it's mentioned in the bible, Greek history and every culture since the beginning of time, but it's simply a bad choice.  
    The comment referenced the comparison of being gay to one’s skin color or gender.  I’d love to hear about the science behind that, since there’s no genetic code that makes someone gay.  You say otherwise thoug?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    Unless this is a joke, this statement shows you have really no understanding of genetics and the state of the science related to heritability. 
    So there’s a gene that makes someone gay now? Do explain.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    The comment referenced the comparison of being gay to one’s skin color or gender.  I’d love to hear about the science behind that, since there’s no genetic code that makes someone gay.  You say otherwise thoug?
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2155810-what-do-the-new-gay-genes-tell-us-about-sexual-orientation/
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    edited June 2018
    Nope. It's by living in the real world not a bubble. 
    That is absolute bullshit. If you lived in the real world you would understand the actual realities of the economics of immigrants. Immigrants contribute positively to the economy in the long run, not negatively. For whatever help they may get, depending on the situation (no, it's not how you just intimated - free everything, lol. If that's what you really think you're in la la land), they make up for it and then some in the long run. Immigration is an economic PLUS in North America, and absolutely key to economic growth. You'd know that if you stopped living in YOUR bubble.
    Honestly, it seems like you've essentially stopped thinking of immigrants as actual people with lives. They've just become some kind of "other" to you, an other that doesn't have aspirations, who don't work and contribute in their own ways, who don't have futures or hopes or anything to do with society besides being leaches. Apparently they are not people who contribute to the economy in your mind, or to the work force, or anything. It's alarming that so many people think this way.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    If you take a close look at the DNA Helix you will see that the gay chromosome  is nowhere near the ignorance chromosome.
    Lol you guys need to learn how to read.  I’m certainly not arguing being gay is a choice, I never said that.  I’m also not saying folks aren’t born gay.  The comment that being gay is like a person’s skin color or gender is false.  Both of those are chromosome/geneticly decided outcomes, gay/straight is not nor has there been anythibg discovered.  It’s all in the wording, but to compare skin color and gender to your sexual preference is outlandish.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    What is this thread about ... we went from immigration to someone looking for a gay chromosome to armies invading ... LMFAO
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    Lol you guys need to learn how to read.  I’m certainly not arguing being gay is a choice, I never said that.  I’m also not saying folks aren’t born gay.  The comment that being gay is like a person’s skin color or gender is false.  Both of those are chromosome/geneticly decided outcomes, gay/straight is not nor has there been anythibg discovered.  It’s all in the wording, but to compare skin color and gender to your sexual preference is outlandish.
    It's absolutely not in the context of discrimination. You're turning to stupid semantics to avoid the real conversation I think.
    You seem to not know much about discrimination laws and who they apply to and why. Maybe you should read up on it more? Or maybe you're just playing dumb, I'm not sure.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    PJ_Soul said:
    It's absolutely not in the context of discrimination. You're turning to stupid semantics to avoid the real conversation I think.
    You seem to not know much about discrimination laws and who they apply to and why. Maybe you should read up on it more? Or maybe you're just playing dumb, I'm not sure.
    I never said a thing about discrimination laws, perhaps you meant to quote another user’s post?z
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is absolute bullshit. If you lived in the real world you would understand the actual realities of the economics of immigrants. Immigrants contribute positively to the economy in the long run, not negatively. For whatever help they may get, depending on the situation (no, it's not how you just intimated - free everything, lol. If that's what you really think you're in la la land), they make up for it and then some in the long run. Immigration is an economic PLUS in North America, and absolutely key to economic growth. You'd know that if you stopped living in YOUR bubble.
    Honestly, it seems like you've essentially stopped thinking of immigrants as actual people with lives. They've just become some kind of "other" to you, an other that doesn't have aspirations, who don't work and contribute in their own ways, who don't have futures or hopes or anything to do with society besides being leaches. Apparently they are not people who contribute to the economy in your mind, or to the work force, or anything. It's alarming that so many people think this way.
    My family were immigrants not so long ago. My great grand parents came here on my grandmother's side and my grandfather immigrated here. Your statements are ridiculous. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    I never said a thing about discrimination laws, perhaps you meant to quote another user’s post?z
    but that's what you were responding to, that "comparing skin color and gender to your sexual ORIENTATION is outlandish" in the context of discrimination and being refused service. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,877
    I’m still waiting for the list of “free stuff” available to immigrants and not native born. And links to the actual programs. Carry on.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    but that's what you were responding to, that "comparing skin color and gender to your sexual ORIENTATION is outlandish" in the context of discrimination and being refused service. 
    Oh I didn’t care what context it was in, its outlandish period.  I didn’t read any of the arguments, just saw that line and knew it was bs.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,227
    I don’t even know what is being debated in here currently.  The cake baker? Immigration? Gay rights? I haven’t been reading, like I said, I was skimming and saw someone try to say that gender and skin color was like a sexual preference and was like “wait, absolutely not. “
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    edited June 2018
    My family were immigrants not so long ago. My great grand parents came here on my grandmother's side and my grandfather immigrated here. Your statements are ridiculous. 
    :lol: Um, yeah, every white American's ancestors were immigrants. Do you seriously think this excludes them from being anti-immigrant now?? Because THAT would be ridiculous.
    And what about my statements are ridiculous? Are you trying to claim that immigrants do not have a positive economic role in America, as you suggested with your little list of "benefits" (and all your other posts about it)?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is absolute bullshit. If you lived in the real world you would understand the actual realities of the economics of immigrants. Immigrants contribute positively to the economy in the long run, not negatively. For whatever help they may get, depending on the situation (no, it's not how you just intimated - free everything, lol. If that's what you really think you're in la la land), they make up for it and then some in the long run. Immigration is an economic PLUS in North America, and absolutely key to economic growth. You'd know that if you stopped living in YOUR bubble.
    Honestly, it seems like you've essentially stopped thinking of immigrants as actual people with lives. They've just become some kind of "other" to you, an other that doesn't have aspirations, who don't work and contribute in their own ways, who don't have futures or hopes or anything to do with society besides being leaches. Apparently they are not people who contribute to the economy in your mind, or to the work force, or anything. It's alarming that so many people think this way.
    European Immigrants went about to systematically destroy every thing great about NA ... As a descendent from immigrants the worst thing to ever happen to First Nations people, the wildlife and absolute Canada the beautiful country they stole from the First Nations people.  Whats worst yet, is why the fuck do First Nations people need to live under laws created by their European conquerers .... make no mistake we are living on STOLEN LAND with more than enough money and resources to make it right with our First Nations peoples.  And JT is full of shit in his empty promises ... cash will fixl a lot of whats wrong with our first nations people.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,152
    What is this thread about ... we went from immigration to someone looking for a gay chromosome to armies invading ... LMFAO
    Really!  :lol:

    So has anyone heard what they pan on doing to the scumbag murdering rapist drug dealing gang members with gay chromosomes?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I have to say, I didn't see the video, but I saw the quotes, and I was unnerved by it. I don't think harassment is the right way to go at ALL. It needs to be respectful and peaceful. otherwise you just create an even bigger monster in your adversary. 
    Now I hope you can begin to understand my point.  I can't afford a private security guard like Michael Bloomberg and nobody is renting one for me like David Hogg.  I have to ensure my own safety.  When is the DNC going to condemn her comments or are they ok with this harassment?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Oh I didn’t care what context it was in, its outlandish period.  I didn’t read any of the arguments, just saw that line and knew it was bs.
    context matters. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    context matters. 
    More than anything.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Really!  :lol:

    So has anyone heard what they pan on doing to the scumbag murdering rapist drug dealing gang members with gay chromosomes?

    Coming in a late day Tweet for the POTUS ... followed by a executive order being signed.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    This is, of course, the famous argument that kind of blew up in the Republicans' faces in the 1964 election and caused the most major "migration" of minorities from the Republican party to the Democratic party. But even if it cost them that election, it definitely paved the way for the current Republican stance of "What I own, I OWN AND CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH IT."

    A brief summary for those that don't know: Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican nominee, was against the Civil Rights Act. Not because he was necessarily against black rights or equality (though he probably was), but he argued if you OWN something (a diner, a store, etc), you should be able to do whatever you want with it; including turning away people you didn't want to serve. Minorities of course saw this as "Well that's easy for you to say, nobody's going to turn away some old white guy" and have been voting democrat ever since.


    The beauty of a free market.  Actions come with consequences. 

    Just like crossing into another country without permission.
Sign In or Register to comment.