Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,919
    on2legs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Impossible to scale back entitlements. Or what is that cliche thing US politicans and panel-people say on CNN.
    If they scale back, I hope they bring back opening bands.
    Is it necessary to work politics into every thread? We get you don’t like the US but can you save that stuff for AMT?
    I think you're misreading my post...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,985
    northerndragon said:
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    no he doesn't. he's out of his mind. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,560
    You guys are ridiculous. The studio version of YL is amazing and the live extended tags by Mike are awesome. I'd rather hear original PJ than a NY cover song they have adopted.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    northerndragon said:
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    no he doesn't. he's out of his mind. 
    Nope, that's a smart man right there. One more that hasn't drunk the kool aid.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,503
    northerndragon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    northerndragon said:
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    no he doesn't. he's out of his mind. 
    Nope, that's a smart man right there. One more that hasn't drunk the kool aid.
    I gotta give Hugh a pass. If I recall correctly, he’s never heard YL at any hows he’s been to. (He doesn’t realize he’s the lucky one!) I think it’s him, anyway. I could be wrong but I know someome here hasn’t.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,985
    HesCalledDyer said:
    northerndragon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    northerndragon said:
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    no he doesn't. he's out of his mind. 
    Nope, that's a smart man right there. One more that hasn't drunk the kool aid.
    I gotta give Hugh a pass. If I recall correctly, he’s never heard YL at any hows he’s been to. (He doesn’t realize he’s the lucky one!) I think it’s him, anyway. I could be wrong but I know someome here hasn’t.
    correct. 5 shows. no Y Led. The last 2 songs of each show I've been to:

    1993: Rockin'/Baba
    2003: Crazy May/Baba
    2005: Fuckin' Up/Rockin' (YLed was on the setlist but not played)
    2011: Rockin'/Indifference (YLed was on the setlist but not played)
    2014: Rockin'/Indifference
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,985
    northerndragon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    northerndragon said:
    HesCalledDyer said: LLP
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!


    Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.
    ^^^^^^^^This man gets it.
    no he doesn't. he's out of his mind. 
    Nope, that's a smart man right there. One more that hasn't drunk the kool aid.
    not sure how it's a kool aid thing. nonsensical lyrics on top of a jimi hendrix inspired guitar lick? what the fuck could be bad about that?
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,337
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

    I want both of them to go away equally, lol.
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    PJ_Soul said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

    I want both of them to go away equally, lol.

    and add "Betterman" to that list. pleeze!!!

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    lolobugg said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

    I want both of them to go away equally, lol.

    and add "Betterman" to that list. pleeze!!!
    this one I can get behind. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,326
    Smalltown
    Black
    Jeremy

    These 3 can go away for a longgggg time

  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,634
    It's always someone's first ever Pearl Jam show.  Can you imagine a show in which you didnt get to hear at least ONE of the following:

    Jeremy
    Betterman
    Black
    Small Town
    Yellow Ledbetter
    Even Flow


    I mean...at this point, even after almost 50 shows, even I dont want to hear a B-List setlist at a major show.  (Play a 10C only event, im all there for all the Bugs and Stupid Mops, etc.).  But I tend to bring a new person to a show more often than not.  The hits must be played. 
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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,326
    Vedd Hedd said:
    It's always someone's first ever Pearl Jam show.  Can you imagine a show in which you didnt get to hear at least ONE of the following:

    Jeremy
    Betterman
    Black
    Small Town
    Yellow Ledbetter
    Even Flow


    I mean...at this point, even after almost 50 shows, even I dont want to hear a B-List setlist at a major show.  (Play a 10C only event, im all there for all the Bugs and Stupid Mops, etc.).  But I tend to bring a new person to a show more often than not.  The hits must be played. 
    Fine. Play one of them per show. Rotate throughout the tour
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  • pjhawks
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    Vedd Hedd said:
    It's always someone's first ever Pearl Jam show.  Can you imagine a show in which you didnt get to hear at least ONE of the following:

    Jeremy
    Betterman
    Black
    Small Town
    Yellow Ledbetter
    Even Flow


    I mean...at this point, even after almost 50 shows, even I dont want to hear a B-List setlist at a major show.  (Play a 10C only event, im all there for all the Bugs and Stupid Mops, etc.).  But I tend to bring a new person to a show more often than not.  The hits must be played. 
    Better Man  and Small Town are still great live.  I don't think they've lost anything with how much they have been played.  Even Flow, Black and Yellow Ledbetter might get a new  kick and feel if they are in new positions in the set list.  Jeremy can probably be put away for a while.  Just my opinion.
  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 775
    Vedd Hedd said:
    It's always someone's first ever Pearl Jam show.  Can you imagine a show in which you didnt get to hear at least ONE of the following:

    Jeremy
    Betterman
    Black
    Small Town
    Yellow Ledbetter
    Even Flow


    I mean...at this point, even after almost 50 shows, even I dont want to hear a B-List setlist at a major show.  (Play a 10C only event, im all there for all the Bugs and Stupid Mops, etc.).  But I tend to bring a new person to a show more often than not.  The hits must be played. 
    They can play most of those, just not in a row at the end every show. Play some in the main set
  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    Vedd Hedd said:
    It's always someone's first ever Pearl Jam show.  Can you imagine a show in which you didnt get to hear at least ONE of the following:

    Jeremy
    Betterman
    Black
    Small Town
    Yellow Ledbetter
    Even Flow
    Been there, done that :
    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pearl-jam/2007/wembley-arena-london-england-43d6a7df.html

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    How are you going to have longer shows if you keep asking for "certain" songs in the catalog to be retired?

    Yellow Ledbetter has brought me to tears on more than one occasion and I didn't even know why.

    Quit yer bitchin'.
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  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,131
    Give me YL over RITFW or Fucking Up every god damn day of the week.  Indifference with the lights up is pretty cool as well. Baba is fine too.  Pretty much anything but RITFW.  
  • pashapasaman
    pashapasaman Posts: 500
    Tiki said:
    How are you going to have longer shows if you keep asking for "certain" songs in the catalog to be retired?

    Yellow Ledbetter has brought me to tears on more than one occasion and I didn't even know why.

    Quit yer bitchin'.
    3 shows still no ylb. Need one in padova!!
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