Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss

MickeyMouse said:

Mike mentioned this in a Rolling Stone interview in 2016 and ever since then I’ve felt it was inevitable. His health and Ed’s vocal issues will almost certainly make this the new norm IMO. 

I love the long shows and I will miss them if they’re gone only because we’ve been conditioned to expect something amazing and epic every night and they almost always deliver on that. But 27 songs is still great and if it’s 27 songs with less covers then I’m all for it. Except Love Reign because I’ve yet to hear that one.

Here’s Mike’s quote from RS:

“We did have a meeting about this before the last tour. We said, "Let's think about maybe cutting the set down a little bit. We're all getting a bit older. Let's try to make it a little more concise." But that meeting went right out the window as it always does, and we're back to doing these two and a half hour, three hour, shows. I think we just get really pumped up from the crowd. And the set does go by really quickly. You're like, "Oh yeah, we're already on that second encore that's longer than the first set." It just happens very quickly. We have a lot of songs. The reasoning is, "Well, let's keep playing."

But there's definitely times I'd rather just play for two hours. My back would agree with that. But it never seems to happen. I think Ed gets into it and we just follow his lead.”

2 hours I'd be happy with from any band. Unfortunately for them, fortunately for us, they have created this monster, and it's going to be difficult to scale it back. 

or keep it a 2.5 and do a sit down acoustic 20 minutes mid-set. but that would also piss off a lot of people. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

MickeyMouse said:

Mike mentioned this in a Rolling Stone interview in 2016 and ever since then I’ve felt it was inevitable. His health and Ed’s vocal issues will almost certainly make this the new norm IMO. 

I love the long shows and I will miss them if they’re gone only because we’ve been conditioned to expect something amazing and epic every night and they almost always deliver on that. But 27 songs is still great and if it’s 27 songs with less covers then I’m all for it. Except Love Reign because I’ve yet to hear that one.

Here’s Mike’s quote from RS:

“We did have a meeting about this before the last tour. We said, "Let's think about maybe cutting the set down a little bit. We're all getting a bit older. Let's try to make it a little more concise." But that meeting went right out the window as it always does, and we're back to doing these two and a half hour, three hour, shows. I think we just get really pumped up from the crowd. And the set does go by really quickly. You're like, "Oh yeah, we're already on that second encore that's longer than the first set." It just happens very quickly. We have a lot of songs. The reasoning is, "Well, let's keep playing."

But there's definitely times I'd rather just play for two hours. My back would agree with that. But it never seems to happen. I think Ed gets into it and we just follow his lead.”

2 hours I'd be happy with from any band. Unfortunately for them, fortunately for us, they have created this monster, and it's going to be difficult to scale it back. 

or keep it a 2.5 and do a sit down acoustic 20 minutes mid-set. but that would also piss off a lot of people. 

I like that idea, they sort of tried to do that 2013 when those 3 hour shows became the norm, but some say it's a momentum killer. 

10c is a mad entitled group that's getting harder to please by the day.   

Where's my single? Where's the new record?  Ole SUCKS! Beyonce? Seriously?   the show isn't long enough!  BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Tiki said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MickeyMouse said:

Mike mentioned this in a Rolling Stone interview in 2016 and ever since then I’ve felt it was inevitable. His health and Ed’s vocal issues will almost certainly make this the new norm IMO. 

I love the long shows and I will miss them if they’re gone only because we’ve been conditioned to expect something amazing and epic every night and they almost always deliver on that. But 27 songs is still great and if it’s 27 songs with less covers then I’m all for it. Except Love Reign because I’ve yet to hear that one.

Here’s Mike’s quote from RS:

“We did have a meeting about this before the last tour. We said, "Let's think about maybe cutting the set down a little bit. We're all getting a bit older. Let's try to make it a little more concise." But that meeting went right out the window as it always does, and we're back to doing these two and a half hour, three hour, shows. I think we just get really pumped up from the crowd. And the set does go by really quickly. You're like, "Oh yeah, we're already on that second encore that's longer than the first set." It just happens very quickly. We have a lot of songs. The reasoning is, "Well, let's keep playing."

But there's definitely times I'd rather just play for two hours. My back would agree with that. But it never seems to happen. I think Ed gets into it and we just follow his lead.”

2 hours I'd be happy with from any band. Unfortunately for them, fortunately for us, they have created this monster, and it's going to be difficult to scale it back. 

or keep it a 2.5 and do a sit down acoustic 20 minutes mid-set. but that would also piss off a lot of people. 

I like that idea, they sort of tried to do that 2013 when those 3 hour shows became the norm, but some say it's a momentum killer. 

10c is a mad entitled group that's getting harder to please by the day.   

Where's my single? the show isn't long enough!  BLAH BLAH BLAH.

it was most likely a momentum killer because of the expectation. as expectations change, so does the reaction. I had this conversation wth the lead singer of the Headstones when they put out their acoustic record, when I asked why they didn't tour it. He said the fans have come to expect high-octane supercharged punk rock, and they'd all riot if it was a sit down affair. My take is, you educate your fanbase on exactly what they are buying, and you have little to no issue. sure, you're going to get the odd Even Bro shouting "PLAY PORCH!" at an Ed solo show, but that's 1 out of 1500, so it's not that bad. 

I don't think entitlement is just a 10c problem. 

fan passion +/- band output/activity = fan satisfaction/disappointment

the single is always an annoying/polarizing issue. It wasn't such a big deal when the band was putting out new material every couple years. But now, with getting an album every 5 years plus, people get antsy about new/unreleased music. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Impossible to scale back entitlements. Or what is that cliche thing US politicans and panel-people say on CNN.
If they scale back, I hope they bring back opening bands.

I don't think you need opening bands. maybe have 20 minute intermission at some point. but opening bands are always cool too. 

teskeinc said:

Come out and do a 30 minute acoustic. Then a regular 2 hour show. 

This is too obvious not to do.

HesCalledDyer said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.

DYERS GETTIN' UPSET

HesCalledDyer said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

Ledbetter is 100% pure, unadulterated garbage.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Impossible to scale back entitlements. Or what is that cliche thing US politicans and panel-people say on CNN.
If they scale back, I hope they bring back opening bands.

Is it necessary to work politics into every thread? We get you don’t like the US but can you save that stuff for AMT?