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watched this earlier on twitter. amazing.Bentleyspop said:By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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How is that any different than the response the left has to the meeting?Bentleyspop said:
Therr are always hypocrites on both sides, especially in the media
Everything Fox said then other networks are saying now, and everything Fox is saying now others said back then.
Why is Fox held to a higher standard than everyone else?
Much of the accusations towards fox are true, but they equally apply to most of the other news networks too, but I don’t see multiple threads complaining about then.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
mace1229 said:
How is that any different than the response the left has to the meeting?Bentleyspop said:
Therr are always hypocrites on both sides, especially in the media
Everything Fox said then other networks are saying now, and everything Fox is saying now others said back then.
Why is Fox held to a higher standard than everyone else?
Much of the accusations towards fox are true, but they equally apply to most of the other news networks too, but I don’t see multiple threads complaining about then.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Haha, you're kidding right?mace1229 said:
How is that any different than the response the left has to the meeting?Bentleyspop said:
Therr are always hypocrites on both sides, especially in the media
Everything Fox said then other networks are saying now, and everything Fox is saying now others said back then.
Why is Fox held to a higher standard than everyone else?
Much of the accusations towards fox are true, but they equally apply to most of the other news networks too, but I don’t see multiple threads complaining about then.0 -
Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.hippiemom = goodness0 -
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
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There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Why aren't you watching PBS?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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yes, MSNBC always annoys me.cincybearcat said:
There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
You can't put them in the same category. MSNBC while certainly left at least deals in facts. Faux on the other hand constantly spews falsehoods, untruths or doesn't even report what is going on. Faux viewers are the most ill informed. While you may not like Rachel Maddow and her reporting because she leans way left, you can't honestly say that she deliberately misconstrues the facts or makes shit up. Same for Chris Matthews and Lawerence O'Donnel (the big three in prime time). False equivalency.cincybearcat said:
There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So there is a lot here....Halifax2TheMax said:
You can't put them in the same category. MSNBC while certainly left at least deals in facts. Faux on the other hand constantly spews falsehoods, untruths or doesn't even report what is going on. Faux viewers are the most ill informed. While you may not like Rachel Maddow and her reporting because she leans way left, you can't honestly say that she deliberately misconstrues the facts or makes shit up. Same for Chris Matthews and Lawerence O'Donnel (the big three in prime time). False equivalency.cincybearcat said:
There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.
First I wanna say that the whole "normalize", "false equivalency" thing has gotten out of hand. I don't think any of that is going on in my post. It's becoming the same as "fake news" and "nothingburger".
Now to address your points to me:
1) I am putting them together in 1 category....the news category. I put CNN, ABC news, and CBS news in this category as well.
2) I already stated that MSNBC uses far less outright lies than Fox news. There is no equivalency there, Fox is way ahead of just about anyone else in the whole news world and certainly way ahead of other primetime TV players.
3) I do think anchors on MSNBC purposely misconstrue facts to fit their agenda. Again, not on the level of Fox, but it certainly happens. There is no way you can be so 1-sided without doing that. They always look at it through the left lens and feed it to their viewers. Fox does the same for the right, but then they add in using visuals that aren't connected to the story at all and outright lies as well.
Ironically I enjoy MSNBC more since Trump has become president. Mostly cause I like seeing the news being critical of the president...I hate the Rah-Rah crap. But I can still see when I'm being mislead by their bias. But I still gravitate towards CNN which I find to be pretty balanced. Sure there is the occasional editorial piece I read on the web that takes something too far, but generally speaking I find them to be a solid news org.
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Nice assessment Cincy. I agree with what you are saying. I think what Trump has been publicly doing to discredit CNN since he was elected is working to an extent. Even though I have never found CNN to be a biased news organization, I find myself looking to other outlets to gather info from because I know that those who even some what support Trump will write off anything from CNN as "fake news". People really are just a bunch of Lemmings and it's scary to see how much they can be controlled by lies and unsubstantiated slander, but yet multiple sexual harassment complaints, abuse of power, and outright lies against the "fake news" mouthpiece go ignored. If nothing else, the age of information has at least made it harder to control the masses. There is still a mass pile of shit, but at least some of it is still floating to the top.cincybearcat said:
So there is a lot here....Halifax2TheMax said:
You can't put them in the same category. MSNBC while certainly left at least deals in facts. Faux on the other hand constantly spews falsehoods, untruths or doesn't even report what is going on. Faux viewers are the most ill informed. While you may not like Rachel Maddow and her reporting because she leans way left, you can't honestly say that she deliberately misconstrues the facts or makes shit up. Same for Chris Matthews and Lawerence O'Donnel (the big three in prime time). False equivalency.cincybearcat said:
There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.
First I wanna say that the whole "normalize", "false equivalency" thing has gotten out of hand. I don't think any of that is going on in my post. It's becoming the same as "fake news" and "nothingburger".
Now to address your points to me:
1) I am putting them together in 1 category....the news category. I put CNN, ABC news, and CBS news in this category as well.
2) I already stated that MSNBC uses far less outright lies than Fox news. There is no equivalency there, Fox is way ahead of just about anyone else in the whole news world and certainly way ahead of other primetime TV players.
3) I do think anchors on MSNBC purposely misconstrue facts to fit their agenda. Again, not on the level of Fox, but it certainly happens. There is no way you can be so 1-sided without doing that. They always look at it through the left lens and feed it to their viewers. Fox does the same for the right, but then they add in using visuals that aren't connected to the story at all and outright lies as well.
Ironically I enjoy MSNBC more since Trump has become president. Mostly cause I like seeing the news being critical of the president...I hate the Rah-Rah crap. But I can still see when I'm being mislead by their bias. But I still gravitate towards CNN which I find to be pretty balanced. Sure there is the occasional editorial piece I read on the web that takes something too far, but generally speaking I find them to be a solid news org.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
another excellent post.cincybearcat said:
So there is a lot here....Halifax2TheMax said:
You can't put them in the same category. MSNBC while certainly left at least deals in facts. Faux on the other hand constantly spews falsehoods, untruths or doesn't even report what is going on. Faux viewers are the most ill informed. While you may not like Rachel Maddow and her reporting because she leans way left, you can't honestly say that she deliberately misconstrues the facts or makes shit up. Same for Chris Matthews and Lawerence O'Donnel (the big three in prime time). False equivalency.cincybearcat said:
There is a gap for sure between #1 and #2. But MSNBC certainly broadcasts strictly from a leftist view. They use less outright lies for sure, but always slanting opinion 1-sided. I thought this was pretty easy to see.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so?cincybearcat said:Fox News is easily the biggest embarrassment of a news org.
MSNBC is #2.
despite trumps attacks I find CNN to be the best source that seems to provide some balance. My personal opinion.
First I wanna say that the whole "normalize", "false equivalency" thing has gotten out of hand. I don't think any of that is going on in my post. It's becoming the same as "fake news" and "nothingburger".
Now to address your points to me:
1) I am putting them together in 1 category....the news category. I put CNN, ABC news, and CBS news in this category as well.
2) I already stated that MSNBC uses far less outright lies than Fox news. There is no equivalency there, Fox is way ahead of just about anyone else in the whole news world and certainly way ahead of other primetime TV players.
3) I do think anchors on MSNBC purposely misconstrue facts to fit their agenda. Again, not on the level of Fox, but it certainly happens. There is no way you can be so 1-sided without doing that. They always look at it through the left lens and feed it to their viewers. Fox does the same for the right, but then they add in using visuals that aren't connected to the story at all and outright lies as well.
Ironically I enjoy MSNBC more since Trump has become president. Mostly cause I like seeing the news being critical of the president...I hate the Rah-Rah crap. But I can still see when I'm being mislead by their bias. But I still gravitate towards CNN which I find to be pretty balanced. Sure there is the occasional editorial piece I read on the web that takes something too far, but generally speaking I find them to be a solid news org.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Joe Scarborough is a lefty?
Their most popular show, 3 hours long, is hosted by a self described conservative and former GOP congressmanPost edited by my2hands on0 -
https://www.google.com/search?q=outlier+definition&rlz=1C1GGRV_enDE765DE765&oq=outlier&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l2j35i39j0l2.3700j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8my2hands said:Joe Scarborough is a lefty?
Their most popular show, 3 hours long, is hosted by a self described conservative and former GOP congressman
Not too mention, he fits the anti-trump mantra for sure.hippiemom = goodness0 -
He takes up a huge chunk of the day and he wasn't always anti trump. He is not exactly and outlier.cincybearcat said:
https://www.google.com/search?q=outlier+definition&rlz=1C1GGRV_enDE765DE765&oq=outlier&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l2j35i39j0l2.3700j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8my2hands said:Joe Scarborough is a lefty?
Their most popular show, 3 hours long, is hosted by a self described conservative and former GOP congressman
Not too mention, he fits the anti-trump mantra for sure.0 -
No. I think many news organizations are a joke. I’m not defending Fox, just saying the rest aren’t much better.dignin said:
Haha, you're kidding right?mace1229 said:
How is that any different than the response the left has to the meeting?Bentleyspop said:
Therr are always hypocrites on both sides, especially in the media
Everything Fox said then other networks are saying now, and everything Fox is saying now others said back then.
Why is Fox held to a higher standard than everyone else?
Much of the accusations towards fox are true, but they equally apply to most of the other news networks too, but I don’t see multiple threads complaining about then.
i also think of much of Fox’s programming like I think of “The View.” I don’t think of a lot of it as news as much as a political talk show. No one considers “The View” as a news source so they get away with the dumbest stuff on there. Much of Fox is the same way, I just don’t consider it news. Especially everything outside the prime-time slots. That being said I can’t stand Hannity or Ingraham, which is half that.
I really have no idea how many, if any do. And it’s a moot point because I wouldn’t really trust any data that gave much information about it anyway just because it seems like such a difficult stat to get an accurate number on and such an easy one to sway one way or another depending on how you define the survey. It just seems like people find the dumbest stuff said on Fox and make the claim “I can’t believe republicans buy this, they are all inbreed retards.” When I really have no reason to believe the majority of conservatives take everything of Fox as hard facts. I certainly don’t hold every liberal to everything said on The View.Post edited by mace1229 on0
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