2017/18 NBA Thread

Lebron's biggest accomplishment is still playing at such a high level considering the number of games this guy has played.  he hasn't played less than 100 games in 8 years now. That is incredible.

The crazy narrative after the game about Lebron willing his team to victory the other night though makes no sense. Yes Lebron's will made the Celtics miss a shit load of 3s     Smoking Toronto was a better accomplishment than beating  a team playing without their best player.

Jordan and Lebron are clearly 1 and 1a in the modern era of the game.  Let's see how Lebron's career ends up before giving a definitive answer. As good as he is still playing he might still have titles to be won.  not this year though.

Warriors are 1/10 favorites in the Finals. Cavs have be the biggest underdogs in Finals history at that number. Here's the scenarios needed for an upset for the ages...

- Lebron dominates even more so than he did in 2016. He'll need to average an efficient 35-10-10. Also has to play great D which he hasn't all playoffs.

- Tristan Thompson averages 15 boards a game and somehow doesn't get abused on defensive switches.

- Kevin Love returns, averages 17 and 10, shoots 45% on 3's and somehow doesn't get roasted on defense.

- Korver & Smith each have a game or two where they can't miss from 3.

- Jeff Green plays the series of his life, holds KD to 25ppg on low 40% shooting... good luck.

- Warriors play awful, miss open shots, play lousy D and turn the ball over at a very high rate.

If all those things happen we might get an interesting series. More than anything it's on the Warriors, if they chose to take this series for granted it could be competitive. This is essentially Lebron's 15' Cavs facing the Warriors again only this time the Warriors have championship experience and KD. I don't see how they defend Curry this go round, Kyrie could at least go at him on the other end of the floor. George Hill can't hang with him and they can't switch like Houston tried and eventually failed at. If they overplay the 3 Warriors will drive for consistent layups and Cavs don't have a rim protector even close to as lethal as Capella. Basically Cavs defense is at a HUGE disadvantage matchup wise. There's a reason Vegas has them as this big an underdog.

Is there any other sport that is more disproportionate when it comes to championships than the NBA? It's the same recycled teams every damn year until the other same dynasty teams rebuild or buy their next championship. Since 1980, only 11 different teams have won the title and that's without removing the one off teams like Cleveland, Dallas and Philly. That leaves 35 championships split between 8 teams. Insane. In the same time span 21 different baseball teams have won a championship and 17 (or 18 if you consider LA and St. Louis different teams) football teams. 

Anyway, Warriors are going to crush the Cavs and keep them as a blip in the history of NBA championship teams.

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Is there any other sport that is more disproportionate when it comes to championships than the NBA? It's the same recycled teams every damn year until the other same dynasty teams rebuild or buy their next championship. Since 1980, only 11 different teams have won the title and that's without removing the one off teams like Cleveland, Dallas and Philly. That leaves 35 championships split between 8 teams. Insane. In the same time span 21 different baseball teams have won a championship and 17 (or 18 if you consider LA and St. Louis different teams) football teams. 

Anyway, Warriors are going to crush the Cavs and keep them as a blip in the history of NBA championship teams.

Basketball is extremely different than other sports where you can heavily rely on one player and do really well.

Yeah, definitely the least "team" sport there is. It doesn't mean the supporting cast isn't important, but an extraordinary player can carry a team for almost every game where as a pitcher and quarterback can be dominant, but if their respective offense and defense doesn't do well than it doesn't matter.

Poncier said:

tbergs said:

 Since 1980, In the same time span 21 different baseball teams have won a championship and 17 (or 18 if you consider LA and St. Louis different teams) football teams. 

Curious as to how considering the LA Rams and St. Louis Rams as different teams would up the number of NFL teams to win a Superb Owl by 1?
Rams have only 1 title, have never won while in LA.

Ha! Thanks for catching that. Should be LA Raiders and Oakland Raiders. Brain lapse.

igotid88 said:

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igotid88 said:

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bbiggs said:

SmallestOceans said:

Cavs are gonna get smoked...

This

Completely agree. IF Lebron can beat the Warriors, then I will put him next to MJ as equal GOAT, because that would be the greatest finals victory ever

He did beat the Warriors. The 73 win Warriors

With Kyrie 

still beat them.

My point was that IF he wins this time, it will essentially be a 1 man show and a great achievement.

Yes he has beaten them once before, but not as they are assembled now and not with as little help

Even though I'm not expecting the Cavs to win. But if they somehow manage to. Don't say it was because Iguodala wasn't playing or he wasn't able to play his game.

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd put beating the 73-win Warriors after going down 3-1 in the series as a greater accomplishment than beating this year's Warriors.

It would have been a better achievement if Green wasn't suspended for game 5

eeriepadave said:

don't really care for either team at this point, getting boring.  Guess i'm rooting for Golden State.  I think Lebron will get too tired, they might win a game or two though.

Would you be bored if it was the 76ers in the 4th straight Final?>