The Pizza Thread

dankind said:

rgambs said:

Regarding New York Pizza the annoyances less about claims of quality and more about claiming to have the definitive say to which styles pizza aer acceptable.  
Millions upon millions of people love Chicago deep dish style pizza, but they are all wrong because some New Yorkers say so?
Nope, sorry, thats bullshit.

Regarding Chicago pizza, the annoyance is less about claims of quality and more about claiming to have the definitive say as to which styles of pizza are acceptable.  

Millions upon millions of people love New York style pizza, but they are all wrong because some Chicagoans say so?

Nope, sorry, that’s bullshit.

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groov7e said:

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

I can't find the original article that had links to the studies, damnit.
This will have to do, I guess.

https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/new-york/nyc-tap-water-myth-city-rankings-quality-test

Never claimed NY water to be superior.  Hell when I lived in the queens and there was a fire we would have rust in the toilet from the FD using the hydrants.

rgambs said:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7242452

Oh, New York, always good for a laugh!

So NYers all have good ingredients and the rest of the US doesn't?  That doesn't make any sense...

In all the places I've been to in the states I had found 2 places that made decent pizzas and Chicago isn't one of them.

I've never had a good bagel outside of the NY/NJ area.  Not sure why that is either...

Only two good pizzas outside of NY and not a sigle bagel? Give me a damn break. Even I’m not that negative. 

Jersey has good Pizza but I don't count that.

You don't realize how spoiled we are here.  If you live somewhere long enough,  your standards tend to lower so certain things will start to taste better over time.

I can't find abondigas in NY.  When I was in cali last year I had it whenever I could.  Mexican food here on the east coast is nothing like out west.  Why?  I have no idea but whenever i ask for abindigas the servers look at me like I have ten heads...  Maybe they aren't Mexican?

Confirmation bias is all that is.

People aren't visiting Ohio or Nebraska for the pizza, lol.

I don't think people visit NY for pizza either lol

Even still, just because it's not something we are famous for, that doesn't mean there isn't any good.

Barbecue was mentioned, I've been to some of the most famous BBQ joints in America, but the best I've had was at a small chain called City Barbecue in Columbus, Ohio.  And it blew some of the famous places away.

Another thing about barbecue is that even in regions dominated by a sauce style, you can still get other sauces, they don't accept only 1 single style.
It's funny too, the KC style sauce I got in South Carolina was better than in KC, and the Carolina mustard sauce I tried in Memphis was better than in Carolina lol

hauntingfamiliar said:

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groov7e said:

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

I can't find the original article that had links to the studies, damnit.
This will have to do, I guess.

https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/new-york/nyc-tap-water-myth-city-rankings-quality-test

Never claimed NY water to be superior.  Hell when I lived in the queens and there was a fire we would have rust in the toilet from the FD using the hydrants.

rgambs said:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7242452

Oh, New York, always good for a laugh!

So NYers all have good ingredients and the rest of the US doesn't?  That doesn't make any sense...

In all the places I've been to in the states I had found 2 places that made decent pizzas and Chicago isn't one of them.

I've never had a good bagel outside of the NY/NJ area.  Not sure why that is either...

Only two good pizzas outside of NY and not a sigle bagel? Give me a damn break. Even I’m not that negative. 

Jersey has good Pizza but I don't count that.

You don't realize how spoiled we are here.  If you live somewhere long enough,  your standards tend to lower so certain things will start to taste better over time.

I can't find abondigas in NY.  When I was in cali last year I had it whenever I could.  Mexican food here on the east coast is nothing like out west.  Why?  I have no idea but whenever i ask for abindigas the servers look at me like I have ten heads...  Maybe they aren't Mexican?

Confirmation bias is all that is.

People aren't visiting Ohio or Nebraska for the pizza, lol.

I don't think people visit NY for pizza either lol

Even still, just because it's not something we are famous for, that doesn't mean there isn't any good.

Barbecue was mentioned, I've been to some of the most famous BBQ joints in America, but the best I've had was at a small chain called City Barbecue in Columbus, Ohio.  And it blew some of the famous places away.

Another thing about barbecue is that even in regions dominated by a sauce style, you can still get other sauces, they don't accept only 1 single style.
It's funny too, the KC style sauce I got in South Carolina was better than in KC, and the Carolina mustard sauce I tried in Memphis was better than in Carolina lol

I know... pizza thread but if you're gonna get started on barbecue.... KC dry rub ribs falling off the bone. Hot dayumm!! At some Irish bar where you could bring your dogs on the Missouri River..On Missouri side of KS. Just amazing. I bought some country style ribs today and cooked them all day with onions n spices n sauce n crock pot bc it's storming here today. No grillin. I'm partial to Eastern NC style bbq with the vinegar based sauce and I add some honey smoked western NC red sauce and it's perfection.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Things are heating up in the pizza thread lol.

I love the deep dish pizza for the record. If someone is going to tell me it isn't very good... I'll do something. Maybe I'll fart in their general direction or something.

rgambs said:

eddiec said:

Okay, I'll jump in on the water issue.
Yes. The water is very important in making dough. Does it mean that New York has the best tap water? No. But when mixed with a high gluten flour it produces excellent dough.
All pizza starts with the base. If you can't get that right, it doesn't matter what you do. It will never be perfect.
I personally know pizza restaurant owners who moved to Florida to open restaurants. They will be the first to admit they could never get the dough right. They couldn't replicate the same pizza they made in New York using all the same ingredients. 

Absolutely true, but if they tweaked the recipe to fit the new water, it could be.  The gluten level would need to come down or the water would need softened and acidified slightly.

bbiggs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

bbiggs said:

Not necessarily a pizza thread pic,  but for any of you that are going to the Wrigley shows in August, go to La Scarola in Halsted and Grand. The food is second to none. Authentic gnocchi...

Too damn heavy...  Maybe a 1/4 of that portion!!!

You are correct! The portions at this place are ridiculous. We all shared everything we ordered, but I still won’t need to eat for about a week. Over indulged to say the least. 

rgambs said:

eddiec said:

Okay, I'll jump in on the water issue.
Yes. The water is very important in making dough. Does it mean that New York has the best tap water? No. But when mixed with a high gluten flour it produces excellent dough.
All pizza starts with the base. If you can't get that right, it doesn't matter what you do. It will never be perfect.
I personally know pizza restaurant owners who moved to Florida to open restaurants. They will be the first to admit they could never get the dough right. They couldn't replicate the same pizza they made in New York using all the same ingredients. 

Absolutely true, but if they tweaked the recipe to fit the new water, it could be.  The gluten level would need to come down or the water would need softened and acidified slightly.

This is getting scientific.