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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Right now the Trumpito Admin is Mulling bailouts for coal and nuclear power plants in a attempt to strengthen the electricity grid.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    If ever there were an opportunity to utilize wind and solar, as well as micro-grid technology for redundancy and minimizing the potential impact from hurricanes, rebuilding Puerto Rico would be it. I wonder if they’ll build an on island coal fired power plant? Clueless.
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  • bootlegger10
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    Gern Blansten said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    dignin said:
    Stormy was paid to keep quiet.

    She went to the media to tell her story then was paid to not tell that story. That is not blackmail.
    What is blackmail then?  I am not concerned about a crime or anything on her point and don’t know the legal definition.   But having information that could negatively impact someone and ask for money not to tell it sure does sound like blackmail to me.  
    You generally don't sign contracts when blackmailing someone....come on man
    End of the day someone is being paid for merely not telling a story.  I don’t care whether it is a crime or not.  Either tell the story or not.  Being paid makes it that much more sleezy.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.
    It's obvious that Trump owns this mess....cheating on his wife...paying off the porn star...etc.

    But someone that takes $ and signs a deal and then still goes public with the info?  That's messed up.  Breaking a contract or using slimy legalize to get out of it is awful....and straight out of trumps own playbook.  So he got what's coming to him, and still Stormy is pretty awful for doing that.  Though I'm glad she did ;)
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited May 2018
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.
    It's obvious that Trump owns this mess....cheating on his wife...paying off the porn star...etc.

    But someone that takes $ and signs a deal and then still goes public with the info?  That's messed up.  Breaking a contract or using slimy legalize to get out of it is awful....and straight out of trumps own playbook.  So he got what's coming to him, and still Stormy is pretty awful for doing that.  Though I'm glad she did ;)
    It simply is not blackmail, that's all I'm saying... The closest thing to blackmail here is actually Team Trump blackmailing Stormy to try and keep her quiet, not the other way around, lol.
    As far as Stormy goes ... Well, I really never had any expectations of her at all, so I'm not about to feel much about her actions either way. The POTUS on the other hand... there are some expectations there for everyone I hope! I don't think a porn star should be the one who's held up to any basic standards of behaviour or morals or lawfulness, but Trump certainly should be!
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.

    I'm not spinning anything in favor of Trump.  My post would have been the same if the other party was a high level CEO.  The point of my original post was about Stormy Daniels being the type of person that sleeps with a married man and then seeks out money not to tell the media about her story, and then SNL giving a person like that a spot on the show.  Have an actress play her on the show as it is obviously a part of the news, but don't give a horrible person like that a platform so she can get more people to show up on her "tour" of strip clubs or whatever. 

    There is nothing pro-Trump in any of my posts. 


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited May 2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.

    I'm not spinning anything in favor of Trump.  My post would have been the same if the other party was a high level CEO.  The point of my original post was about Stormy Daniels being the type of person that sleeps with a married man and then seeks out money not to tell the media about her story, and then SNL giving a person like that a spot on the show.  Have an actress play her on the show as it is obviously a part of the news, but don't give a horrible person like that a platform so she can get more people to show up on her "tour" of strip clubs or whatever. 

    There is nothing pro-Trump in any of my posts. 


    Oh really, WOW, a porn star is the type of person to sleep with married men and seeks out money? Get outta town!! :lol:

    My point was that she didn't commit blackmail as you claimed, just by virtue of the definition of blackmail.

    I don't know why in the hell you have any expectations of SNL either way. They did what they thought would have the funniest and most outrageous impact, and they probably made the right choice with that being their only criteria. SNL should not be interested in what you're trying to get at.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Every second spent worrying about big bad Stormy Daniels on big bad SNL is a win for Donald Trump.
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  • The Juggler
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    Says something when a porn star (you know--THAT kind of person) comes across a hell of a lot more honest and trust worthy than the president of the united states.

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,552
    JimmyV said:
    Every second spent worrying about big bad Stormy Daniels on big bad SNL is a win for Donald Trump.
    How is it a win for trump?
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    There's a very tangled web going on in these cases..details we have yet to see. Keith Davidson could be a key figure.
    http://www.newsweek.com/stormy-daniels-lawyer-michael-avenatti-says-attorney-who-negotiated-her-nda-872780

    And....trump sure isn't claiming there was any blackmail.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/3/17314458/donald-trump-tweets-stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-stephanie-clifford-nda





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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,183
    edited May 2018
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.
    It's obvious that Trump owns this mess....cheating on his wife...paying off the porn star...etc.

    But someone that takes $ and signs a deal and then still goes public with the info?  That's messed up.  Breaking a contract or using slimy legalize to get out of it is awful....and straight out of trumps own playbook.  So he got what's coming to him, and still Stormy is pretty awful for doing that.  Though I'm glad she did ;)
    Her point is that there was no contract.  tRump didn't sign it and several people in his group say that he didn't know about it.  You can't enter into a contract without knowing about it....or signing it
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  • JimmyV
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    Go Beavers said:
    JimmyV said:
    Every second spent worrying about big bad Stormy Daniels on big bad SNL is a win for Donald Trump.
    How is it a win for trump?
    Because it's a narrative painting him as a victim. The faux outrage we've seen over Daniels on SNL centers on her being a blackmailer and NBC being wrong for putting her on TV. That's a win for Trump.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    JimmyV said:
    Go Beavers said:
    JimmyV said:
    Every second spent worrying about big bad Stormy Daniels on big bad SNL is a win for Donald Trump.
    How is it a win for trump?
    Because it's a narrative painting him as a victim. The faux outrage we've seen over Daniels on SNL centers on her being a blackmailer and NBC being wrong for putting her on TV. That's a win for Trump.
    Absolutely. It's idiotic.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Team Mueller is not distracted. Team Mueller is quietly going about following the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Definitely was not blackmail. That is definitely how Team Trump wants to spin it though. Would have thought that you were too smart to fall for that one bootlegger10.
    It's obvious that Trump owns this mess....cheating on his wife...paying off the porn star...etc.

    But someone that takes $ and signs a deal and then still goes public with the info?  That's messed up.  Breaking a contract or using slimy legalize to get out of it is awful....and straight out of trumps own playbook.  So he got what's coming to him, and still Stormy is pretty awful for doing that.  Though I'm glad she did ;)
    Her point is that there was no contract.  tRump didn't sign it and several people in his group say that he didn't know about it.  You can't enter into a contract without knowing about it....or signing it
    Hence the crazy legalize I mentioned.  In court, probably right.  Still shady to take $ and then say no contract. 

    But again, trump's been using lawyers, contracts, and legalize to benefit him his entire life...so at least she is doing this to a guy like that.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Mueller is not distracted. Team Mueller is quietly going about following the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
    1) How much $
    2) Where in Russia?
    3) Why "with love"  how does that fit?
    4) How long in duration is said Ptape?
    5) Isn't it actually Pee Tape or Urine Tape?  I mean PTape could stand for Professional Tape or Poop tape.
    6) Mueller can impeach the president?


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  • Go Beavers
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    JimmyV said:
    Go Beavers said:
    JimmyV said:
    Every second spent worrying about big bad Stormy Daniels on big bad SNL is a win for Donald Trump.
    How is it a win for trump?
    Because it's a narrative painting him as a victim. The faux outrage we've seen over Daniels on SNL centers on her being a blackmailer and NBC being wrong for putting her on TV. That's a win for Trump.
    It’s not a win, it’s just nurturing the denial and misinformation his supporters need. It’s a dysfunctional feedback loop trump needs, and vice versa. trump’s the abusive head of the household. Any info pointing this out will be reframed in order to maintain the relationship. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited May 2018
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Mueller is not distracted. Team Mueller is quietly going about following the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
    1) How much $
    2) Where in Russia?
    3) Why "with love"  how does that fit?
    4) How long in duration is said Ptape?
    5) Isn't it actually Pee Tape or Urine Tape?  I mean PTape could stand for Professional Tape or Poop tape.
    6) Mueller can impeach the president?


    1. On Friday, Mr. Prigozhin was one of 13 Russians indicted by a federal grand jury for interfering in the American election.

    According to the indictment, Mr. Prigozhin, 56, controlled the entity that financed the troll factory, known as the Internet Research Agency, which waged “information warfare against the United States” by creating fictitious social-media personas, spreading falsehoods and promoting messages supportive of Donald J. Trump and critical of Hillary Clinton. He has denied involvement.

    • The special counsel Robert Mueller's team is questioning Russian oligarchs as it investigates whether Russian money was illegally funneled into Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign or inauguration, CNN reported.
    • Mueller is also investigating whether wealthy Russians used Americans or American companies as conduits to funnel money to the US in support of Trump.
    • At least one US organization has drawn scrutiny over whether a wealthy Russian banker used it to channel money to the Trump campaign.
    • At least six Russians allied with President Vladimir Putin attended Trump's inauguration — one of whom had two US associates who donated over $1 million to Trump's inaugural committee.
    • Earlier this year, it emerged that the FBI was investigating whether Alexander Torshin, a prominent Russian banker and politician with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, used the National Rifle Association to illegally send money to the Trump campaign.The NRA said it spent a record $55 million on the 2016 elections, most of which came from a sector of the organization that isn't required to disclose its donors. About $30 million of that was spent on backing Trump or opposing the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton.The NRA has emphasized — and news reports have confirmed — that Torshin, not the organization, is under investigation by the FBI.Torshin attended the NRA's convention every year from 2012 to 2016 — occasionally with Maria Butina, his longtime assistant who's also a gun-rights advocate — and has met every NRA president since 2012, according to NPR.

    • Butina was one of at least six Putin-allied Russians who attended Trump's inauguration in January 2017.

      Natalia Veselnitskaya and Rinat Akhmetshin, the two Russian lobbyists who met with top Trump campaign officials in June 2016 offering dirt on Clinton, were there.

      A wealthy Russian pharmaceutical executive named Alexey Repik and his wife were also there, as was the energy tycoon Viktor Vekselberg.

      Vekselberg is said to be closely aligned with Putin, with whom he frequently meets to discuss business.

      Citing federal filings, The Washington Post reported that two of Vekselberg's US associates donated a combined $1.25 million to Trump's inaugural committee.

    • 2. Moscow, St. Petersburg

    • 3. Seems to be a whole lot of Russian love for Team Trump Treason, not only for illegally funneling campaign cash to his coffers but also in the form of material support, which is an in kind contribution of value, also illegal. And lets not forget the rubles spent on condos and Team Trump Treason properties.

    • 4. 69:27 if you count the 9 minutes it took Team Trump Treason to disrobe.

    • 5. You got me there.

    • 6. No, but he can file charges and lay out the evidence for the House to deem that he should be impeached and the Senate should hold a trial. Were you alive during the Clinton years? See Clinton, William Jefferson; Lewinsky, Monica; White Water; Starr, Kenneth, Special Counsel.

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