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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
    How far have previous administrations gotten with this?
    Who cares who gets the credit?
    You wouldn't be saying that if this had occurred during the Obama years.
    Obama gave NK free rein to test as much as I want.  Lob dud/test missiles over Japan and towards Japan, no biggie right?

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    RYME said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
    How far have previous administrations gotten with this?
    Who cares who gets the credit?
    You wouldn't be saying that if this had occurred during the Obama years.
    Obama gave NK free rein to test as much as I want.  Lob dud/test missiles over Japan and towards Japan, no biggie right?

    Dude, what makes you think I'm a supporter of Obama.  I support neither Obama, Trump or Clinton or any of the other leeches in society. And that goes the same here in Canada.  Politicians leech off the productivity of others...so what I am saying is I have never seen a politician worth much...but US politicians are pretty close to being complete disgrace.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
    How far have previous administrations gotten with this?
    Who cares who gets the credit?
    You wouldn't be saying that if this had occurred during the Obama years.
    Obama gave NK free rein to test as much as I want.  Lob dud/test missiles over Japan and towards Japan, no biggie right?

    Dude, what makes you think I'm a supporter of Obama.  I support neither Obama, Trump or Clinton or any of the other leeches in society. And that goes the same here in Canada.  Politicians leech off the productivity of others...so what I am saying is I have never seen a politician worth much...but US politicians are pretty close to being complete disgrace.
    I didn't know where you are from.
    But credit has got to go somewhere.

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
    How far have previous administrations gotten with this?
    Who cares who gets the credit?
    You wouldn't be saying that if this had occurred during the Obama years.
    Obama gave NK free rein to test as much as I want.  Lob dud/test missiles over Japan and towards Japan, no biggie right?

    Dude, what makes you think I'm a supporter of Obama.  I support neither Obama, Trump or Clinton or any of the other leeches in society. And that goes the same here in Canada.  Politicians leech off the productivity of others...so what I am saying is I have never seen a politician worth much...but US politicians are pretty close to being complete disgrace.
    I didn't know where you are from.
    But credit has got to go somewhere.

    Then I would say if Trump even had 10% influence in the peace process and it does achieve peace and nuclear free Korea peninsula then Trump is more deserving of the Nobel Peace prize than Obama ... but in reality no US president deserves a Nobel peace ... I'm more inclined to believe little rocket man is running low on funds ... nuclear weapons are not cheap to develop.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,370
    RYME said:
    In addition to your bubble wrap bib overalls & jacket, please carry a pillow with you at all times, so you have something to protect your head with when you fall off the mellon wagon.
    I certainly don't want you to hurt your head.
    So nice of you to answer the questions and turn it personal. But hey, Assad is a nice guy like “Un is very honorable,” so I get it. Can’t wait for the Nobel Committee awards show. Can you?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    RYME said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    And as an America I would expect you to want your country to get 100% of the credit...
    Notice how I said “some” of the credit. 
    Thats the difference from you and me, if the Korea's agree to end the war, who cares who gets credit ... there will be plenty of credit to go around to stroke all your ego's...
    How far have previous administrations gotten with this?
    Who cares who gets the credit?
    You wouldn't be saying that if this had occurred during the Obama years.
    Obama gave NK free rein to test as much as I want.  Lob dud/test missiles over Japan and towards Japan, no biggie right?

    It was GWB, or Shrub and Turd Blossom, who watched and wilted as one of the three axis of evil detonated their first nuclear weapon. Funny, I don’t remember you posting about the threat then and criticizing the lack of peace in the world? Maybe you were still trying to connect dots for the justification of the Iraq war? It’s a challenge, I know.
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  • bbiggs
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    Damn...this thread sure is an angry place, no? Good for the Korean Peninsula. Great strides made Thursday. I’ll give credit to NK, SK, Trump, etc. Anyone who had a hand in the process. No one deserves all the credit, but all involved deserve some.  We’ll see where the talks go. Maybe they progress; maybe they don’t. Good step Thursday regardless.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,370
    bbiggs said:
    Damn...this thread sure is an angry place, no? Good for the Korean Peninsula. Great strides made Thursday. I’ll give credit to NK, SK, Trump, etc. Anyone who had a hand in the process. No one deserves all the credit, but all involved deserve some.  We’ll see where the talks go. Maybe they progress; maybe they don’t. Good step Thursday regardless.  
    Does Obama deserve any? Umm, you know, sanctions? Or Team Trump Treason and his crazy talk deserves it all? Again, someone please reconcile Team Trump Treason’s position on NK versus Iran. But look out for the dots, they make a sound when you pop ‘em.
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  • bbiggs
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    ^ I think past administrations (Obama and others) got us to the point that we’re at with a nuclear NK, so to answer your question, no. I don’t give Obama credit. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    bbiggs said:
    ^ I think past administrations (Obama and others) got us to the point that we’re at with a nuclear NK, so to answer your question, no. I don’t give Obama credit. 
    All or none. Ok, I get it. Team Trump Treason is the only reason we’re at where we are today because, well, he’s crazy like a loon or he’s a skilled negotiator, who happens to think Un is very honorable. Has anyone alerted the Nobel Committee?
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  • bbiggs
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    ^ Obama got a Nobel prize so I’d say Trump will be deserving IF North Korea de-nuclearizes (notice I said IF). Would you disagree? 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,370
    bbiggs said:
    ^ Obama got a Nobel prize so I’d say Trump will be deserving IF North Korea de-nuclearizes (notice I said IF). Would you disagree? 
    No, but I wonder what exactly Team Trump Treason has done in this regard? I think way more credit goes to SK for striking out on their own. Maybe because they viewed Team Trump Treason as an unreliable partner and unstable, to the point of getting them killed?

    ”We’ll see.”
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    So what if South Korea took the lead ... after 75 years or so of US involvement got the Korea's no where.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,370
    So what if South Korea took the lead ... after 75 years or so of US involvement got the Korea's no where.  
    Then Team Trump Treason is a bystander. It’s like his taking credit for the success of the Olympics. I hope it works out, I really do. I’m just not sure Team Trump Treason won’t find a way to fuck it up or renege on the deal. What strikes me is that it’s contingent upon the US/Russia/China/EU/Japan going along when shouldn’t it be really just between the koreas? If the south strikes a deal they can accept but not the US, does Team Trump Treason blather on about what a shit deal it is and takes his troops and goes home? 
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  • my2hands
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    edited April 2018
    dignin said:
    There is no way North Korea would give up it's nuclear weapons. Wishful thinking.
    China does not want the peninsula to unify, ever... my guess is China has offered full military protection to NK... which may allow NK to denuclearize, elevate Un to legitimate leader status, and provide stability & support so he can remain leader well into the future, which is ultimately all he wants and China wants... it's a win-win... 

    Trump has zero to do with this... this is a well executed plan to legitimize Un and ensure NK & SK remain separate for the long term... the entire thing feels staged, because it is... 

    Making Trump look good is also a win for China... the longer Trump is in office, the better it is for them, and quite a few others... they get away with murder because he is clueless...  didnt he just praise Xi for becoming leader for life? 

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    He continues to impress you?

    You been paying attention bro? 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Korea’s agreeing to end the war is a great step in the right direction ... it shouldn’t matter who’s responsible, just that they are talking.
    well you are legit anti american so of course you would say that.  seems like trump got the deal done and should deserve some of the credit according to south korea.  I didn't vote for him but he continues to impress me.
    He continues to impress you?

    You been paying attention bro? 
    Yeah I’m shocked any time anyone says I’m impressed in regards to the bafoon, I’m impressed that our government is still functioning with such a fool at the wheel ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    There is no way North Korea would give up it's nuclear weapons. Wishful thinking.
    China does not want the peninsula to unify, ever... my guess is China has offered full military protection to NK... which may allow NK to denuclearize, elevate Un to legitimate leader status, and provide stability & support so he can remain leader well into the future, which is ultimately all he wants and China wants... it's a win-win... 

    Trump has zero to do with this... this is a well executed plan to legitimize Un and ensure NK & SK remain separate for the long term... the entire thing feels staged, because it is... 

    Making Trump look good is also a win for China... the longer Trump is in office, the better it is for them, and quite a few others... they get away with murder because he is clueless...  didnt he just praise Xi for becoming leader for life? 

    Well I think China has been protecting NK ever since the end of the Korean War.  The rest of your rant your rant, you know this how??
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