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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If for whatever reason Not Korea abandons its nuclear ambitions then thats a good thing ... I could careless what presidential watch it happens on.  The arrogance come from the US somehow thinking they  can tell other countries they can/can not have nuclear weapons.  So far in history, only one country has demonstrated a willingness to use them...
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ I think that so-called American arrogance bodes well for the rest of the world in this case. Letting a country like North Korea have nukes is not a good idea. 
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    One step at a time.
    Rome was not built in a day.  This is obviously a complex situation.
    Trump is very serious about this.  He's not fooling around.
    A few months ago alot of people thought he was going to get us all nuked via tweeting.
    If you actually care, you should hope that this works.  Maby it won't work out at all, and then it's back to the drawing board. But you shouldn't root against it because you hate Trump & can't stand the thought of Trump racking up some wins.
    Do you at least hope for a better more stable NK?
    And Team Trump (treason). How does Trump fit the definition of treason?
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason
    I don't see it.
    Do you want the world to be better off if there is a chance?  Slim chance, but there's a chance this might work out.
    At that point you'd have to give credit where credit is due.
    Or do you hate the guy so much that it doesn't matter what good is actually accomplished?  



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I think that so-called American arrogance bodes well for the rest of the world in this case. Letting a country like North Korea have nukes is not a good idea. 
    The issue I have with Team Trump Treason is they have openly stated they want to abandon the deal with Iran. Not sure I’d trust them with any nuclear deal.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I think that so-called American arrogance bodes well for the rest of the world in this case. Letting a country like North Korea have nukes is not a good idea. 
    You didn't stop them from getting nukes ... North Korea developing nuclear weapons got this meeting going ... I am under no illusions here, if the US and the South Korean want a nuclear free Korea it is going to come at a cost, now lets see if the Donald is willing to negotiate a deal or give them a take it or leave it offer. that's what will be interesting.  I'd like to see the west offer him 30 billion and exile to a country of his choosing if that mean a united and free Korea that can come without the loss of more lives ... unfortunately dictators and politicians hate losing control.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    Rome was not built in a day.  This is obviously a complex situation.
    Trump is very serious about this.  He's not fooling around.
    A few months ago alot of people thought he was going to get us all nuked via tweeting.
    If you actually care, you should hope that this works.  Maby it won't work out at all, and then it's back to the drawing board. But you shouldn't root against it because you hate Trump & can't stand the thought of Trump racking up some wins.
    Do you at least hope for a better more stable NK?
    And Team Trump (treason). How does Trump fit the definition of treason?
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason
    I don't see it.
    Do you want the world to be better off if there is a chance?  Slim chance, but there's a chance this might work out.
    At that point you'd have to give credit where credit is due.
    Or do you hate the guy so much that it doesn't matter what good is actually accomplished?  



    Pretty easy, see definition #2.

    Its not that I hate the guy so much I don’t want to see him rack up some wins, I just don’t have any confidence that after a year and a half, Team Trump Treason is going to suddenly act presidential and get serious about the issues facing this country. It’s still all about him and whatever makes him look good. I have zero faith in his ability to understand the issue as it relates to Korea and even less in his ability to negotiate anything, based on his performance thus far. I have yet to say, or hear any elected democrat say, “our number one priority is to see this president fail.”
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  • RYME
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    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    ..my screen is stuck.. ignore this


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


    This is who you’re putting your faith in.

    Trump Attacks Comey, Haberman, Goes On Misspelling Rampage - New York Magazine https://apple.news/As48GiXqrSFqkGB08aESGtw

     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
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  • RYME
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    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


    This is who you’re putting your faith in.

    Trump Attacks Comey, Haberman, Goes On Misspelling Rampage - New York Magazine https://apple.news/As48GiXqrSFqkGB08aESGtw

     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
    Who else do you know of right now, is in a position to mabey (I stress the word Maybe)
    do this?  You act as though it's easy peasy.  Take the blinders off man, he's not the bafoon you think he is, or are hoping for.
    Trump didn't go to rocket man & ask for a meeting.  Rocket man is feeling the heat, from all of the sanctions & came asking Trump for a meeting.  If it occurs, it's historic.
    From time to time, one of the most liberating things you can do for yourself is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
    Admit it, if this comes to pass & NK backs down a bit or de-nuks, thats a good thing. If it doesn't, then it's back to the damn drawing board.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


    This is who you’re putting your faith in.

    Trump Attacks Comey, Haberman, Goes On Misspelling Rampage - New York Magazine https://apple.news/As48GiXqrSFqkGB08aESGtw

     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
    Who else do you know of right now, is in a position to mabey (I stress the word Maybe)
    do this?  You act as though it's easy peasy.  Take the blinders off man, he's not the bafoon you think he is, or are hoping for.
    Trump didn't go to rocket man & ask for a meeting.  Rocket man is feeling the heat, from all of the sanctions & came asking Trump for a meeting.  If it occurs, it's historic.
    From time to time, one of the most liberating things you can do for yourself is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
    Admit it, if this comes to pass & NK backs down a bit or de-nuks, thats a good thing. If it doesn't, then it's back to the damn drawing board.
    It’s for the exact reason that it’s not easy peasy. You love Team Trump Treason so much that you can’t see his faults, weakness? You’re not blinded by science or reason but love because you so desperately want and need a win. You’ve been sold a mirage and your love affair with Team Trump Treason blinds you to the reality of what he, the POTUS, doesn’t have, reason, knowledge, concern or ability to deal. You bought the myth. You own it. It won’t result in what you and I hope for. You’ll be played and I’ll tell you so.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


    This is who you’re putting your faith in.

    Trump Attacks Comey, Haberman, Goes On Misspelling Rampage - New York Magazine https://apple.news/As48GiXqrSFqkGB08aESGtw

     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
    Who else do you know of right now, is in a position to mabey (I stress the word Maybe)
    do this?  You act as though it's easy peasy.  Take the blinders off man, he's not the bafoon you think he is, or are hoping for.
    Trump didn't go to rocket man & ask for a meeting.  Rocket man is feeling the heat, from all of the sanctions & came asking Trump for a meeting.  If it occurs, it's historic.
    From time to time, one of the most liberating things you can do for yourself is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
    Admit it, if this comes to pass & NK backs down a bit or de-nuks, thats a good thing. If it doesn't, then it's back to the damn drawing board.
    Oh, and by the way? The South Koreans seem to be doing just fine without a US ambassador or Team Trump Treason’s tweets.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


    This is who you’re putting your faith in.

    Trump Attacks Comey, Haberman, Goes On Misspelling Rampage - New York Magazine https://apple.news/As48GiXqrSFqkGB08aESGtw

     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
    Who else do you know of right now, is in a position to mabey (I stress the word Maybe)
    do this?  You act as though it's easy peasy.  Take the blinders off man, he's not the bafoon you think he is, or are hoping for.
    Trump didn't go to rocket man & ask for a meeting.  Rocket man is feeling the heat, from all of the sanctions & came asking Trump for a meeting.  If it occurs, it's historic.
    From time to time, one of the most liberating things you can do for yourself is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
    Admit it, if this comes to pass & NK backs down a bit or de-nuks, thats a good thing. If it doesn't, then it's back to the damn drawing board.
    Team Trump Treason has publically stated they oppose the Iranian deal. Fact. Question to you: would you settle for the same deal with North Korea?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    “White House ‘privately’ skeptical of North Korea’s freezing of its nuclear testing program.”
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Jung-un could really capitalize on all this attention by making good on de-nuking and opening up his borders to tourism.  Look what happen with Vietnam.  That place was a hell hole post-Vietnam war.  Not so now.  We get a fair number of tourists who come into the bookstore (and why not?  Bookstore are rare places these days) and I've heard more than one person talk about how Vietnam is now one of those "go-to" places for tourism. 

    Start saving up those air miles, tourists.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    brianlux said:
    Jung-un could really capitalize on all this attention by making good on de-nuking and opening up his borders to tourism.  Look what happen with Vietnam.  That place was a hell hole post-Vietnam war.  Not so now.  We get a fair number of tourists who come into the bookstore (and why not?  Bookstore are rare places these days) and I've heard more than one person talk about how Vietnam is now one of those "go-to" places for tourism. 

    Start saving up those air miles, tourists.
    Not to mention that the DMZ is a natural wonder for eco tourists. An incredible oasis of nature waiting to be gently explored.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    Jung-un could really capitalize on all this attention by making good on de-nuking and opening up his borders to tourism.  Look what happen with Vietnam.  That place was a hell hole post-Vietnam war.  Not so now.  We get a fair number of tourists who come into the bookstore (and why not?  Bookstore are rare places these days) and I've heard more than one person talk about how Vietnam is now one of those "go-to" places for tourism. 

    Start saving up those air miles, tourists.
    Not to mention that the DMZ is a natural wonder for eco tourists. An incredible oasis of nature waiting to be gently explored.
    Whoa, yeah- good point!
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    josevolution Posts: 31,686
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    One step at a time.
    How well have previous presidents (R) or (D) done thus far in terms of negotiating anything with NK?
    If it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago & wouldn't still be a big problem today.
    Understanding the issues?
    How is it possible then to even be talking about negotiating with NK at this point.
    No president prior has had a sit-down meeting with the leader of NK.  (I grant you that it hasn't happened yet & maybe it still won't happen.)
    Give it a chance.


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     I can’t wait for the “Little Rocket Man” tweet storm to come out after the first disagreement, the shape and size of the table.
    Who else do you know of right now, is in a position to mabey (I stress the word Maybe)
    do this?  You act as though it's easy peasy.  Take the blinders off man, he's not the bafoon you think he is, or are hoping for.
    Trump didn't go to rocket man & ask for a meeting.  Rocket man is feeling the heat, from all of the sanctions & came asking Trump for a meeting.  If it occurs, it's historic.
    From time to time, one of the most liberating things you can do for yourself is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
    Admit it, if this comes to pass & NK backs down a bit or de-nuks, thats a good thing. If it doesn't, then it's back to the damn drawing board.
    lol I’m hoping NK does denuclearize it would be great but that still doesn’t negate the fact that the idiot you voted for is still just that an idiot ...
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    brianlux said:
    Jung-un could really capitalize on all this attention by making good on de-nuking and opening up his borders to tourism.  Look what happen with Vietnam.  That place was a hell hole post-Vietnam war.  Not so now.  We get a fair number of tourists who come into the bookstore (and why not?  Bookstore are rare places these days) and I've heard more than one person talk about how Vietnam is now one of those "go-to" places for tourism. 

    Start saving up those air miles, tourists.
    Spent nearly six weeks in Vietnam over two separate trips and I'd tend to agree. Amazing place. They still wear the cost of the war as do Cambodia and Laos, but the resilience and strength of the people is incredible.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    brianlux said:
    Jung-un could really capitalize on all this attention by making good on de-nuking and opening up his borders to tourism.  Look what happen with Vietnam.  That place was a hell hole post-Vietnam war.  Not so now.  We get a fair number of tourists who come into the bookstore (and why not?  Bookstore are rare places these days) and I've heard more than one person talk about how Vietnam is now one of those "go-to" places for tourism. 

    Start saving up those air miles, tourists.
    Not to mention that the DMZ is a natural wonder for eco tourists. An incredible oasis of nature waiting to be gently explored.
    Got to watch out for all those land mines!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......