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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2018
    He's gotta, right? Or Trump has way more to gain from him than we know. Or both.... But you know, I wouldn't be shocked to find out it's not about Putin having something for him or on him... It really could just be that Putin knows how to stroke Trump's enormous ego, and Trump is sincerely doing this because he is dumb enough to believe that Putin is going to be "good for him" somehow, like on a personal ego level. I dunno. Trump is fucking off his rocker, so applying normal logic doesn't necessarily work.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The important part of that:

    "Earlier this month, Russian intrusions took a sinister new turn, with the joint FBI-Department of Homeland Security disclosure that the Russians have been hacking US infrastructure, including the electric grid. If you weren't already worried about Russia, you should be now, and it's past time for the United States to define what a "proportionate response" looks like in these new forms of grayscale warfare (not armed conflict, but not peaceful coexistence, either).
    Here's why Americans should be worried. According to the FBI and DHS, the Russians have been stealing information and testing attack scenarios on the structure and operations of the US electric grid, including industrial control and Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition systems. Attacking those systems, particularly in a way that does permanent damage, could lead to a prolonged power outage."


    BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO PUTIN!!!!!

    And now the question is... is the USA doing the same to Russia or anyone else? Valid question. Although I don't think it should change anything as far as how America feels about Trump's extremely fucked up behaviour when it comes to Russia/Putin. There is something seriously weird going on there, and everyone should be extremely worried about it... I actually think whatever is going on with Trump's refusal to unfriend Putin is what wil be impeachable, if anyone can ever fucking figure out why he's doing it. I mean, even if the actual reason is sheer stupidity it wouldn't even matter.
    Team Trump Treason is an organized crime syndicate. Putin has way more than a PTAPE on him. Way more.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said: I
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and no, there was no link there unless facebook is able to mine for data on the device it is on. it was all done via text message/phone conversation. no google searches or anything of the like. and we got the name from someone who isn't even on social media. 
    And you have no clue what the guy who rented the place to you was up to...
    uh, she didn't even know my name. it was all under my wife's name, who isn't on social media. 
    So what are you saying? That you think someone is what? Tapping your phones? Seriously man, there IS a link that you're missing. You just don't know what it is. But I assume people know who you're married to, right? It also could have something to do with your own activities while you were there, etc etc. I'm not saying I know what the link is obviously. But there is one that falls short of... whatever you're thinking about. Nobody cares about you enough to know that shit through more sinister means, lol. ;)
    no. I don't let her out of the basement. 
    :lol: I was actually going to mention the obvious extreme likelihood of your wife having a secret account that you don't know about. =);)
    no, she hates facebook/social media, and is rarely on any electronic device. 


    I'm not sure if you mentioned using FB on any mobile devices, and if so, do you keep the location off 100% of the time? Everyone in your family also?

    Even if you do, I am convinced FB can track user locations from WiFi and cell towers.

    This is very creepy, but the bottom line is FB is terrible software. 

    Team Trump ';-) was able to manipulate fb to illegally get sensitive micro targeted demographic data in swing states that the Dems did not have access to. And guess what, TPG won those states

    But that isn't the worst of fb. At it's worst, it's a fake information confirmation bias platform that has access to some our most sensitive information without our knowledge

    Let's just hope Myanmar doesn't happen again. With minimal FB regulation, not sure what can stop that.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJ_Soul said:
    That's a pretty extremist last sentence there buddy. :lol:

    (Yeah, I know you didn't compare Trump to Sanders. You compared Trump supporters to Bernie Bros.... Still not comparable, for plenty of reasons, some already mentioned... another big one is simply subject matter. Not all extremists are equal man. I think really that's what you're trying to say, and I strongly disagree with that viewpoint).
    I saw that on a bumper sticker years ago and loved it.  Use it whenever I can. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That's a pretty extremist last sentence there buddy. :lol:

    (Yeah, I know you didn't compare Trump to Sanders. You compared Trump supporters to Bernie Bros.... Still not comparable, for plenty of reasons, some already mentioned... another big one is simply subject matter. Not all extremists are equal man. I think really that's what you're trying to say, and I strongly disagree with that viewpoint).
    I saw that on a bumper sticker years ago and loved it.  Use it whenever I can. 
    Hilarious.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That's a pretty extremist last sentence there buddy. :lol:

    (Yeah, I know you didn't compare Trump to Sanders. You compared Trump supporters to Bernie Bros.... Still not comparable, for plenty of reasons, some already mentioned... another big one is simply subject matter. Not all extremists are equal man. I think really that's what you're trying to say, and I strongly disagree with that viewpoint).
    I saw that on a bumper sticker years ago and loved it.  Use it whenever I can. 
    Where did you see that bumper sticker? I'm afraid to guess which state.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That's a pretty extremist last sentence there buddy. :lol:

    (Yeah, I know you didn't compare Trump to Sanders. You compared Trump supporters to Bernie Bros.... Still not comparable, for plenty of reasons, some already mentioned... another big one is simply subject matter. Not all extremists are equal man. I think really that's what you're trying to say, and I strongly disagree with that viewpoint).
    I saw that on a bumper sticker years ago and loved it.  Use it whenever I can. 
    Where did you see that bumper sticker? I'm afraid to guess which state.
    Ohio.  It was a joke then too. 
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mrussel1 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That's a pretty extremist last sentence there buddy. :lol:

    (Yeah, I know you didn't compare Trump to Sanders. You compared Trump supporters to Bernie Bros.... Still not comparable, for plenty of reasons, some already mentioned... another big one is simply subject matter. Not all extremists are equal man. I think really that's what you're trying to say, and I strongly disagree with that viewpoint).
    I saw that on a bumper sticker years ago and loved it.  Use it whenever I can. 
    Where did you see that bumper sticker? I'm afraid to guess which state.
    Ohio.  It was a joke then too. 
    I know it was a joke, but man... that is putting it out there lol.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,402
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said: I
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and no, there was no link there unless facebook is able to mine for data on the device it is on. it was all done via text message/phone conversation. no google searches or anything of the like. and we got the name from someone who isn't even on social media. 
    And you have no clue what the guy who rented the place to you was up to...
    uh, she didn't even know my name. it was all under my wife's name, who isn't on social media. 
    So what are you saying? That you think someone is what? Tapping your phones? Seriously man, there IS a link that you're missing. You just don't know what it is. But I assume people know who you're married to, right? It also could have something to do with your own activities while you were there, etc etc. I'm not saying I know what the link is obviously. But there is one that falls short of... whatever you're thinking about. Nobody cares about you enough to know that shit through more sinister means, lol. ;)
    no. I don't let her out of the basement. 
    :lol: I was actually going to mention the obvious extreme likelihood of your wife having a secret account that you don't know about. =);)
    no, she hates facebook/social media, and is rarely on any electronic device. 


    I'm not sure if you mentioned using FB on any mobile devices, and if so, do you keep the location off 100% of the time? Everyone in your family also?

    Even if you do, I am convinced FB can track user locations from WiFi and cell towers.

    This is very creepy, but the bottom line is FB is terrible software. 

    Team Trump ';-) was able to manipulate fb to illegally get sensitive micro targeted demographic data in swing states that the Dems did not have access to. And guess what, TPG won those states

    But that isn't the worst of fb. At it's worst, it's a fake information confirmation bias platform that has access to some our most sensitive information without our knowledge

    Let's just hope Myanmar doesn't happen again. With minimal FB regulation, not sure what can stop that.
    And Zuckerberg is a rich asshole who didn't and still doesn't care. They sold people's data left and right and got rich doing it, but now he's really sorry for it. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    edited March 2018
    Donald Trump tweeted on March 11th that reports of an imminent shakeup of his legal team were fake news. Today his lawyer resigned.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attorney-john-dowd-resigns-amid-shake-up-in-presidents-legal-team/2018/03/22/0472ce74-2de3-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.3202a12e44f2

    "The Failing New York Times purposely wrote a false story stating that I am unhappy with my legal team on the Russia case and am going to add another lawyer to help out. Wrong. I am VERY happy with my lawyers, John Dowd, Ty Cobb and Jay Sekulow. They are doing a great job and....."





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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    ^^
    I'm just glad it wasn't Ty Cobb that resigned.  I love that he has an attorney named Ty Cobb.  In fact, it's my favorite thing to come out of this whole presidency.  
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  • The Juggler
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    JimmyV said:
    Donald Trump tweeted on March 11th that reports of an imminent shakeup of his legal team were fake news. Today his lawyer resigned.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attorney-john-dowd-resigns-amid-shake-up-in-presidents-legal-team/2018/03/22/0472ce74-2de3-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.3202a12e44f2

    "The Failing New York Times purposely wrote a false story stating that I am unhappy with my legal team on the Russia case and am going to add another lawyer to help out. Wrong. I am VERY happy with my lawyers, John Dowd, Ty Cobb and Jay Sekulow. They are doing a great job and....."






    Clearly fake news =  real news.

    In other words: just assume the opposite of whatever comes out of Trump's mouth is true.

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  • The Juggler
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    Firing Mueller will only increase the odds of impeachment. DO IT, DON. DO IT.

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    The Juggler said:

    Firing Mueller will only increase the odds of impeachment. DO IT, DON. DO IT.

    I'm not seeing how.  The GOP is in power and has proven willing to protect him under any circumstances.  I don't see either house (particularly the Senate) flipping in November.  

    If he fires Mueller, will anyone's mind change about anything?  the 40% will say "good; should have stopped wasting money on that witch hunt a year ago" and the rest of us will range from outraged to indifferent based on how outraged/indifferent we are today.  
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  • my2hands
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    Oh, the PTape is child's play... they own this clown, and its obvious to anybody that hasn't drank the kool-aid

    Im not even interested in a PTape, I want the crimes...I want the NRA... and I pray they can show some form GOP conspiracy in all of this

    Trump has been visiting Russia for 30 years... decades worth of business dealings, I'm sure shady ones... they have all kinds of shit on this clown... this is what Putin is best at... this is what Russia does, especially under Putin... the clown is compromised, and we all know it
  • ikiT
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    As far as his attorneys go...it's just another mother fucker down the drain...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited March 2018
    OnWis97 said:
    The Juggler said:

    Firing Mueller will only increase the odds of impeachment. DO IT, DON. DO IT.

    I'm not seeing how.  The GOP is in power and has proven willing to protect him under any circumstances.  I don't see either house (particularly the Senate) flipping in November.  

    If he fires Mueller, will anyone's mind change about anything?  the 40% will say "good; should have stopped wasting money on that witch hunt a year ago" and the rest of us will range from outraged to indifferent based on how outraged/indifferent we are today.  

    Plenty of republican senators have urged him not to do it and now multiple have used the "impeachment" word in voicing their opposition to that action.

    House is flipping.

    DO IT, DON. DO IT.


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  • mrussel1
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    Tiki said:
    As far as his attorneys go...it's just another mother fucker down the drain...
    I interpret this as Trump's strategy is changing and cooperation is going down the tubes. 
  • The Juggler
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    mrussel1 said:
    Tiki said:
    As far as his attorneys go...it's just another mother fucker down the drain...
    I interpret this as Trump's strategy is changing and cooperation is going down the tubes. 
    That is the first thought that crossed my mind too.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Tiki said:
    As far as his attorneys go...it's just another mother fucker down the drain...
    I interpret this as Trump's strategy is changing and cooperation is going down the tubes. 
    My interpretation is that Team Trump Treason is cooked and he knows it. Desperado, you got the weight on your shoulders........

    And good on Theodore Olsen for refusing to represent this treasonous piece of crap.
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