1ThoughtKnown said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Once again, we aren’t “holding a gun to anyone’s head”.  

This is is a federal jurisdiction. The federal government has approved the pipeline.
You stated it would be good for “you” like people in BC aren’t in the same country! It’s laughable.  The economic and environmental benefits are for everyone.  

Your argument is moot. If you aren’t against pipelines why are you “getting your back up”.  This is a sweet deal for CANADA, which last time I checked included BC.  

Nothing in your post refutes a single point I’ve made. It’s just an emotional reaction.  With all do respect, my problem isn’t with British Columbians, it’s with your government and our federal government (as this thread is about politics I will take the high road and not make it personal as you have)  

I'm getting my back up for exactly what I stated: Albertans are being babies because we are refusing to bend over the pommel horse with a cue ball stuffed up our mouth- serving us a shit sandwich and expecting us to enjoy it.

You're giving yourself too much credit: you haven't made very good points outside of indirectly stating that there is a lot of money to be made for Albertans pumping your oil through BC so you can send it to Asian countries... with a few kickbacks to CANADA (I can yell too). I won't get to everything because everything isn't worth getting to... but did you realize that less than 2% of British Columbians work in the oil and gas sector? Were you making comments about 'ethical oil' and 'environmental benefits' (lol)?

You haven't been listening very well: increased oil tanker traffic off the coast of Vancouver isn't fantastic for many people that live on the coast (or marine life for that matter). I don't live on the coast so I'm not speaking to self preservation. I live in Kamloops. Check your pipeline map and see where that city resides in relationship to the project (and existing one). 

I'd be for the pipeline, but with a much... much... better deal for British Columbians. I have read many reports where BC would garner a few full time jobs (about 50), lose many more full time jobs attached to the coastline, and would expect to receive less than 3% of the total revenue. 

Exactly why are you thinking we should be thrilled? 

Once again... an untilleigent post with very little fact behind it except name calling and divisive rhetoric.

You don’t understand how royalties, taxes, transfer payments of resources within provinces work and how those benefit British Columbia. You want a “sweet deal” which is just ridiculous.

does Alberta ask you for a dime for all the lumber that travels through the province to points east? Should we put a toll booth at the border for each load of plywood headed to Saskatchewan? 

A pipeline is just a conduit to sell oil. Sure it’s good for Alberta, how you can’t for the life of you see how it is good for the entire country is beyond me lol 

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

I thought Trudeau the environmental was going to save everyone from pipelines ... Trudeau your pm and his government approved this pipeline, now I think all those who voted for Trudeau need to get behind their leader and encourage him to get this PIPELINE BUILT!  As for those of us who didn’t see the wisdom of voting for Trudeau we can pick whatever side we want...

He's your PM too buddy.
I didn't vote for Trudeau because of his ideas about pipelines. I KNEW that he would end up approving this one. Anyone who didn't see that coming is an idiot. I voted for Trudeau for 4 very specific reasons: Legalization (check), doctor assisted suicide (check, although so far it's still too wimpy, but in the courts), immediate help for thousands of refugees (check), and just to get Harper the fuck out of office finally (check!!!). I voted for him despite the fact that I knew he would approve this pipeline... I also voted for John Horgan because I knew he would oppose it. That is also why I voted for my mayor, who also strongly opposes it.

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

I thought Trudeau the environmental was going to save everyone from pipelines ... Trudeau your pm and his government approved this pipeline, now I think all those who voted for Trudeau need to get behind their leader and encourage him to get this PIPELINE BUILT!  As for those of us who didn’t see the wisdom of voting for Trudeau we can pick whatever side we want...

He's your PM too buddy.
I didn't vote for Trudeau because of his ideas about pipelines. I KNEW that he would end up approving this one. Anyone who didn't see that coming is an idiot. I voted for Trudeau for 4 very specific reasons: Legalization (check), doctor assisted suicide (check, although so far it's still too wimpy, but in the courts), immediate help for thousands of refugees (check), and just to get Harper the fuck out of office finally (check!!!). I voted for him despite the fact that I knew he would approve this pipeline... I also voted for John Horgan because I knew he would oppose it. That is also why I voted for my mayor, who also strongly opposes it.

Sensitive much...that embarrassment ain’t my prime minister.

Justin Trudeau is less popular than Stephen Harper was at this point in his tenure as PM

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Does this give you confidence in the Department of Citizenship and Immigration's 'thorough vetting process'?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/man-convicted-in-jassi-sidhus-honour-killing-obtained-permanent-residency-in-canada/ar-BBKupPn?li=AAggFp5&ocid=edgsp

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Not a harper fan, well not a fan of any politician...but what does harper got to do with anything today...Trudeau has had plenty of time to correct or reverse harper policies, well, that’s if and when he shows up for work or isn’t on a tax payer funded vacation...of course harper was wrong about Trudeau not being ready yet, he’ll never ready...lol

oh boy, I hope ford wins in Ontario more than ever...

Nothing. I was saying that for the sake of the ninnies who might come in and try to blame it all on Trudeau and act like it's all the "liberals'" faults (party and non-party definition). That isn't the case at all, but that is the way most of these kinds of conversations go... you know, a bunch of divisive partisan bullshit..... Kinda like that stupid line you just brought up about Trudeau not being ready. What a load of crap. Trudeau was more qualified to be in office than Harper was when he was elected, so I have no clue where Harper got off taking that tack. Ridiculous.

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Not a harper fan, well not a fan of any politician...but what does harper got to do with anything today...Trudeau has had plenty of time to correct or reverse harper policies, well, that’s if and when he shows up for work or isn’t on a tax payer funded vacation...of course harper was wrong about Trudeau not being ready yet, he’ll never ready...lol

oh boy, I hope ford wins in Ontario more than ever...

Nothing. I was saying that for the sake of the ninnies who might come in and try to blame it all on Trudeau and act like it's all the "liberals'" faults (party and non-party definition). That isn't the case at all, but that is the way most of these kinds of conversations go... you know, a bunch of divisive partisan bullshit..... Kinda like that stupid line you just brought up about Trudeau not being ready. What a load of crap. Trudeau was more qualified to be in office than Harper was when he was elected, so I have no clue where Harper got off taking that tack. Ridiculous.

You can agree to disagree in a conversation...I’m pretty sure that not against the rules around here.

Trudeau is a spineless cowered...

this is is your pm.

i admire the Chinese dictatorship.

your asking for more we can give..

i personally think all politicians suck...mainly because they are all leaches...

anyways we will need to agree to disagree on this current topic...

I have no idea why you felt the need to say that first line. I have absolutely no problem with us disagreeing. So maybe just remember that and stop acting like I am disturbed by a disagreement, lol. I'm fine with it. Right back at ya... I think you're the one with the problem as far as that goes. I'm perfectly comfortable and am just saying what I want to say.

Lol. You just completely destroyed any respect I might have for your viewpoint about Trudeau with all that crap. That is just anti-liberal garbage you just spewed. Pointless exaggeration with no factual basis at all. If I said the same shit about Harper, I'd be just as guilt of the same thing, and I really, really hated Harper. But I still always tried to stay honest with my negative opinions about him. The over-the-top language you're using doesn't help your cause in any way man.

I'm asking for more than we can give? I'm not sure what you are talking about there, sorry. I didn't ask for anything.

I also think just about all politicians are scum... Some scummier than others. But I like to discuss politics always assuming that everything we're talking about is on a relative scale.