March For Our Lives - Parkland Students Demanding Action

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Big fucking deal if kids miss a few days of school ... thats between the parents and their children.  Its good that these kids are protesting, personally i wish every parent would pull their children from school indefinitely until the idiot politicians pass meaningful gun control legislation...There is absolutely nothing to argue back and forth, its the parents decision.  
    So all good if a few of the students are protesting against gun control too?  Cannot have it both ways...
    ABSOLUTELY.  Anyone who argues that point is a goddam hypocrite.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Big fucking deal if kids miss a few days of school ... thats between the parents and their children.  Its good that these kids are protesting, personally i wish every parent would pull their children from school indefinitely until the idiot politicians pass meaningful gun control legislation...There is absolutely nothing to argue back and forth, its the parents decision.  
    So all good if a few of the students are protesting against gun control too?  Cannot have it both ways...
    ABSOLUTELY.  Anyone who argues that point is a goddam hypocrite.  
    Agreed, just checking :)
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Big fucking deal if kids miss a few days of school ... thats between the parents and their children.  Its good that these kids are protesting, personally i wish every parent would pull their children from school indefinitely until the idiot politicians pass meaningful gun control legislation...There is absolutely nothing to argue back and forth, its the parents decision.  
    So all good if a few of the students are protesting against gun control too?  Cannot have it both ways...
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited March 2018
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Big fucking deal if kids miss a few days of school ... thats between the parents and their children.  Its good that these kids are protesting, personally i wish every parent would pull their children from school indefinitely until the idiot politicians pass meaningful gun control legislation...There is absolutely nothing to argue back and forth, its the parents decision.  
    So all good if a few of the students are protesting against gun control too?  Cannot have it both ways...
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    I’lol take that as a “yes”, then.  Good to know, conversation over.  Going to borrow this picture :)
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2018
    FWIW: At one of the two marches that my daughter has attended with me (both at her request), a news photographer wanted to snap her picture and was actually kind enough to ask for permission, which we both denied. I, because of the assholes out in the world who would think that she's being exploited; and she, because, in her words, "That was creepy." (She was six at the time.)

    Now, a case could be made by likely those same assholes that the #fakenews left-wing media wants to exploit children to further its socialist agenda with those libtard zombies who read the newspaper, but they also maybe -- just maybe -- want to report on something that's happening, which is kind of, you know, a journalist's prime directive.

    This same case can be made for your young right-to-lifers pictured above. They are likely neither brainwashed nor being exploited but rather wholeheartedly believe in the cause that they are supporting. And the photojournalist present captured a moment in time.

    My son is five, and he just wants to punch things and watch Star Wars and shit. He probably thinks guns are awesome, especially laser shooters. I'm sure that he thinks his sister is dumb for wasting a day walking around a park carrying a sign and yelling when she could be out chasing down imaginary bad guys with plastic katanas. Same gene pool, totally different children. I'm not sure which one is the anomaly. My daughter tends to make friends with kids (both boys and girls) who are more like her. My son doesn't really have friends; he has buddies. And they all seem pretty expendable as far as he's concerned, which is fine--I'm the same way.

    I guess what I'm getting at with that last paragraph is that kids develop differently. And it seems harshly cynical to label the younger kids that we see in news articles protesting for commonsense gun laws or against abortion as being exploited. Hence the Bowie quote.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    dankind said:
    FWIW: At one of the two marches that my daughter has attended with me (both at her request), a news photographer wanted to snap her picture and was actually kind enough to ask for permission, which we both denied. I, because of the assholes out in the world who would think that she's being exploited; and she, because, in her words, "That was creepy." (She was six at the time.)

    Now, a case could be made by likely those same assholes that the #fakenews left-wing media wants to exploit children to further its socialist agenda with those libtard zombies who read the newspaper, but they also maybe -- just maybe -- want to report on something that's happening, which is kind of, you know, a journalist's prime directive.

    This same case can be made for your young right-to-lifers pictured above. They are likely neither brainwashed nor being exploited but rather wholeheartedly believe in the cause that they are supporting. And the photojournalist present captured a moment in time.

    My son is five, and he just wants to punch things and watch Star Wars and shit. He probably thinks guns are awesome, especially laser shooters. I'm sure that he thinks his sister is dumb for wasting a day walking around a park carrying a sign and yelling when she could be out chasing down imaginary bad guys with plastic katanas. Same gene pool, totally different children. I'm not sure which one is the anomaly. My daughter tends to make friends with kids (both boys and girls) who are more like her. My son doesn't really have friends; he has buddies. And they all seem pretty expendable as far as he's concerned, which is fine--I'm the same way.

    I guess what I'm getting at with that last paragraph is that kids develop differently. And it seems harshly cynical to label the younger kids that we see in news articles protesting for commonsense gun laws or against abortion as being exploited. Hence the Bowie quote.
    It sounds suspiciously like you have a son and a daughter.  Mine are the exact same way... just older versions.  
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    FWIW: At one of the two marches that my daughter has attended with me (both at her request), a news photographer wanted to snap her picture and was actually kind enough to ask for permission, which we both denied. I, because of the assholes out in the world who would think that she's being exploited; and she, because, in her words, "That was creepy." (She was six at the time.)

    Now, a case could be made by likely those same assholes that the #fakenews left-wing media wants to exploit children to further its socialist agenda with those libtard zombies who read the newspaper, but they also maybe -- just maybe -- want to report on something that's happening, which is kind of, you know, a journalist's prime directive.

    This same case can be made for your young right-to-lifers pictured above. They are likely neither brainwashed nor being exploited but rather wholeheartedly believe in the cause that they are supporting. And the photojournalist present captured a moment in time.

    My son is five, and he just wants to punch things and watch Star Wars and shit. He probably thinks guns are awesome, especially laser shooters. I'm sure that he thinks his sister is dumb for wasting a day walking around a park carrying a sign and yelling when she could be out chasing down imaginary bad guys with plastic katanas. Same gene pool, totally different children. I'm not sure which one is the anomaly. My daughter tends to make friends with kids (both boys and girls) who are more like her. My son doesn't really have friends; he has buddies. And they all seem pretty expendable as far as he's concerned, which is fine--I'm the same way.

    I guess what I'm getting at with that last paragraph is that kids develop differently. And it seems harshly cynical to label the younger kids that we see in news articles protesting for commonsense gun laws or against abortion as being exploited. Hence the Bowie quote.
    It sounds suspiciously like you have a son and a daughter.  Mine are the exact same way... just older versions.  
    I wish it were so simple, except that my daughter has boyfriends from school and on her hockey team who are more thoughtful types and already engaged and vocal about civic matters. Hell, all the class parents even got a letter from her teacher asking us to remind them to be respectful of other people's opinions when discussing political matters.
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  • brianwp
    brianwp Posts: 139

    Soooo, who’s showing up on March 24th and how many people are you bringing?

  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    brianwp said:

    Soooo, who’s showing up on March 24th and how many people are you bringing?

    I'll be at a local march with my daughter. She's upset that we're not making the trip to D.C., but when she makes enough money to pay for that trip, she can feel free to take me  -- that is, if I'm not dead by then.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    We will likely be in DC.  
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,553
    dankind said:
    brianwp said:

    Soooo, who’s showing up on March 24th and how many people are you bringing?

    I'll be at a local march with my daughter. She's upset that we're not making the trip to D.C., but when she makes enough money to pay for that trip, she can feel free to take me  -- that is, if I'm not dead by then.
    I would encourage you and your daughter to invite anyone at her school that seems to be alone.  Anyone who sits alone in the cafeteria, anyone who is picked last in gym class, anyone who needs a friend.  These are the ones we need to look after, you never know when one conversation can change someone's path who is young and lost.  A person who wants to kill will find a way to kill, be it with a gun, a knife, a car, or some other means.  Gun laws need to change, but much more needs to be done beyond that......

    I brought these points up to my kids yesterday after school.  My 17year old shrugged it off.  My 12year old stopped dead in her tracks and looked straight at me as if a light bulb just turned on......

    We'll be in Chicago on the 24th.....
  • brianwp
    brianwp Posts: 139
    OMG! How cool is this!
    Love this Band more than ever. 

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    brianwp said:

    Soooo, who’s showing up on March 24th and how many people are you bringing?

    Wish I could.  That day falls on the same day as the semi-annual Sacramento Antiquarian Book Fair I'm doing.  It's likely to be my last fair and, Sacramento being the state capitol, this events could make that fair difficult, problematic a big money looser, and yet another nail in the coffin of my book business.

    But oh well.  Some things are just more important.   So thank you to those who are going to the march!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,224
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Big fucking deal if kids miss a few days of school ... thats between the parents and their children.  Its good that these kids are protesting, personally i wish every parent would pull their children from school indefinitely until the idiot politicians pass meaningful gun control legislation...There is absolutely nothing to argue back and forth, its the parents decision.  
    So all good if a few of the students are protesting against gun control too?  Cannot have it both ways...
    Yes it’s anyone’s right to protest what you believe in I have no problem with it , I bet they will be outnumbered ..
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    DK, I just love your girl and her pluckiness.  And for you and your wife to encourage it, and her knowledge, and her standing up - getting it - at such a sweet young point in her life.  God knows I didn't know shit about that at her age.

    B, if not there physically, we stand in solidarity.  Those who minimize or belittle the efforts?  Fuck 'em!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    http://fox40.com/2018/03/14/wheatland-student-says-he-was-forced-to-participate-in-walkout/
  • brianwp
    brianwp Posts: 139
    unsung said:
    http://fox40.com/2018/03/14/wheatland-student-says-he-was-forced-to-participate-in-walkout/

    Okay, congrats. You found a school where a teacher did the wrong thing. 

    Now we can get back to what this thread was supposed to be about, a peaceful protest on March 24th. If you don’t care, please move on. 

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,224
    brianwp said:
    unsung said:
    http://fox40.com/2018/03/14/wheatland-student-says-he-was-forced-to-participate-in-walkout/

    Okay, congrats. You found a school where a teacher did the wrong thing. 

    Now we can get back to what this thread was supposed to be about, a peaceful protest on March 24th. If you don’t care, please move on. 

    I’ll 2nd that !
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,995
    i love that the kids are being active. our generation has failed them. to the gop i say ignore these kids at your own peril. they are pissed off, and they are not buying the thoughts and prayers shit any longer. gop is going to lose an entire generation of voters once these kids are of age.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    unsung said:
    http://fox40.com/2018/03/14/wheatland-student-says-he-was-forced-to-participate-in-walkout/
    The comments made by way of your roll as antagonist, naysayer, cynic, rebuter or whatever it is you see as your function is cannot be completely discounted... but they do get old sometimes. 

    "Less house, more barn!"
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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