Would you like to see Pearl Jam & other performers do another Vote For Change Tour in 2020

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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    and just because it's in a book, doesn't mean it isn't complete bullshit, there are lots of books that are total trash
    Absolutely, how many books has Bill O'Reilly written?  Too many.
    The point though was that the bullshit is easy to spot in that format, and if it isn't, well then at least you've been fooled by a pro.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    actually I have studied Tesla, and that is where I get my information on the subject and he absolutely believed Einstein was completely full of shit
    He was woefully out of his element.  Nearly (and more than, in some cases) 100 years of theoretical and experimental results have shown Einstein to be legit.
    Even if Tesla had left us some radical revision of the standard and quantum models, that certainly wouldn't have contained something as ridiculous and foolish as a flat Earth and the silly pseudo-scientific "proofs" of it.  
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    actually I have studied Tesla, and that is where I get my information on the subject and he absolutely believed Einstein was completely full of shit
    He was woefully out of his element.  Nearly (and more than, in some cases) 100 years of theoretical and experimental results have shown Einstein to be legit.
    Even if Tesla had left us some radical revision of the standard and quantum models, that certainly wouldn't have contained something as ridiculous and foolish as a flat Earth and the silly pseudo-scientific "proofs" of it.  
    actually the theory of relativity has been proven incorrect
    http://aetherforce.com/electrical-engineer-disproves-einsteins-relativity-theory-the-ruins-of-106-years-relativity/
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
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  • PJWGIII
    PJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 811
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    Who wouldn’t want more PJ shows? Of course!

    The extent to which I support the cause would depend on the details of the cause and candidate obviously, but generally speaking why wouldn’t you want this? More shows! More shows! More shows!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Yes
    NewJPage said:
    brianlux said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    LOL.  Sorry, not laughing at you NewJ, it's just that being critical of each other happens all the time here and many more than just BBH do it.. 

    As for, well now,  sentence structure, it we don't but sometimes all ok. 
    I'm usually a lurker here, so guess I'm just getting my wings. No offense meant toward anyone. I try not to be critical of others and should be better
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    mfc2006 said:
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
    1 meme in the whole fucking thread, sorry not apologizing, especially when I have far more post where they are my words and my thoughts, and I ain't worried about your commentary, you live your life, I live mine, you'll probably never understand my perspective, you would of had to have taken far more LSD in your life, all the members in the band have taken acid, so I am not really concerned about anybody's holier than thou judgements on the subject either, just to save some commentary.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,096
    No
    I don’t care who they support I’m only interested in new music so until they release new material , I’ll stay away from their shows ..
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    edited March 2018
    Big Bank Hank said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
    1 meme in the whole fucking thread, sorry not apologizing, especially when I have far more post where they are my words and my thoughts, and I ain't worried about your commentary, you live your life, I live mine, you'll probably never understand my perspective, you would of had to have taken far more LSD in your life, all the members in the band have taken acid, so I am not really concerned about anybody's holier than thou judgements on the subject either, just to save some commentary.
    You don’t know me and I don’t know you. That we can agree on. That being said, you don’t know my perspective or where I'm coming from at all, so please don't act like you do. I'm sorry that I pointed out your love of memes in the thread where you only posted one. I could run through the threads you've started/posted in and count them, but that's not the point. 

    My post above wasn't rude, but merely an observation that some people may want to actually hear your thoughts instead of a meme. I'm not trolling or trying to incite a riot. Quite the opposite, in fact. Maybe I should've just sent you a message. 

    As for the acid/LSD comment, like I said earlier...you don't know me or what I've experienced in my life. And I certainly don't understand how/why this is relevant at all. You like PJ. Guess what? I do as well. If they all want to take acid, that's their choice.

    Again, not trolling or inciting a riot. Just responding. Cheers.
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    tbergs said:
    Honestly, no. That ship has sailed and its a different generation now. Technology is way more accessible and social media is how most communication is consumed.

    I would just like to see them tour, period. Not 7 random shows at massive stadiums. Something like Metallica just announced. If the band wants to draw off the current political state with some of their content then go ahead. Just get on the road and blow my socks off with Rock!
    I agree with this whole heartedly.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    No
    The Vote-For-Change Tour in 2004 was cool to me in a "Whoa, a Pearl Jam concert when I wasn't expecting one" way. But it was nothing more than that for me. And they definitely shouldn't do another one. Now more than ever it seems that voters aren't interested in hearing celebrities preach their politics. Of course, those same voters voted for a celebrity that preached his politics so who knows.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to or misled John Kerry is great at that, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    How’s Kerry a warmonger? 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    I think playing shows aimed at raising funds for a specific issue, like homelessness in Seattle at the Home Shows, is the better way to go about it in 2018 and 2020.
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  • Shyner
    Shyner Posts: 1,226
    Yes
    The vote for pearl jam tour
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Yes
    JimmyV said:
    I think playing shows aimed at raising funds for a specific issue, like homelessness in Seattle at the Home Shows, is the better way to go about it in 2018 and 2020.
    I agree but what I'd really like to see is for Pearl Jam to join Red Hot Chili Peppers in their support for Sea Shepherds!


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    After the Trump presidency, do Americans need musicians telling them to vote for change?  I would hope not ... but then again Trump did win once...
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Yes
    Meltdown99 said:
    After the Trump presidency, do Americans need musicians telling them to vote for change?  I would hope not ... but then again Trump did win once...
    Wouldn't it be great to answer that question with, "No. Americans are independent thinkers who take a critical look at the issues and the candidates and place their votes based on smart choices and a good understanding of logical consequences."  Wouldn't that be great?  In the mean time, I have no problem with musicians who are intelligent encouraging their fans to do things that are better for them than voting in  clowns.  That's the sad reality.
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  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Nyet 
    Crack me up!!!  No, this country needs people to rally in the streets, on every street, I'll go so far as using the term "revolution" and it needs to be done now, not two years from now.  
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Kind of a no brainer. Anything that promotes a full on tour. I dont care if they call it a vote for change your. As long as they have a new record out when they do it.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,863
    No
    This isn't a rally that I'd attend.

    I'm more central in my thinking so I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy this.

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