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Would you like to see Pearl Jam & other performers do another Vote For Change Tour in 2020

Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
edited February 2018 in A Moving Train
not looking for controversy, I thought the 2004 VFC shows were great, and it'd be awesome if they did them again in 2020

Would you like to see Pearl Jam & other performers do another Vote For Change Tour in 2020 20 votes

Yes
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digninNo CoderOnWis97dankindAbe FromanBLACK35timdwillibrianluxBig Bank HankPJWGIII 10 votes
No
50%
mcgruff10Ledbetterman10josevolutionPJPOWERIndifference71tbergsKev - Coat and KeysKC138045tempo_n_groovejerparker20 10 votes
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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    No
    If America needs famous people to tell them that they need change in 2020... Jeezus, help us all.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Depends on who the candidate is I guess.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    Yes
    Of course. More PJ shows the better. They should have one this year too.
  • jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,512
    No
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:p
    If America needs famous people to tell them that they need change in 2020... Jeezus, help us all.
    +1
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    No
    Honestly, no. That ship has sailed and its a different generation now. Technology is way more accessible and social media is how most communication is consumed.

    I would just like to see them tour, period. Not 7 random shows at massive stadiums. Something like Metallica just announced. If the band wants to draw off the current political state with some of their content then go ahead. Just get on the road and blow my socks off with Rock!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,369
    Nyet 
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
    Depends on who the candidate is I guess.
    Agreed.
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Yes
    Then I find a bookie and bet it all against whomever they’re supporting. 
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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    dankind said:
    Then I find a bookie and bet it all against whomever they’re supporting. 
    HA HA, lol
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,310
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    LOL.  But remember, they helped get Jon Tester elected (not the perfect candidate but way better than the options).
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to or misled John Kerry is great at that, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    Post edited by Big Bank Hank on
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,310
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    LOL.  Sorry, not laughing at you NewJ, it's just that being critical of each other happens all the time here and many more than just BBH do it.. 

    As for, well now,  sentence structure, it we don't but sometimes all ok. 
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    brianlux said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    LOL.  Sorry, not laughing at you NewJ, it's just that being critical of each other happens all the time here and many more than just BBH do it.. 

    As for, well now,  sentence structure, it we don't but sometimes all ok. 
    I'm usually a lurker here, so guess I'm just getting my wings. No offense meant toward anyone. I try not to be critical of others and should be better
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    actually I have studied Tesla, and that is where I get my information on the subject and he absolutely believed Einstein was completely full of shit
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    and just because it's in a book, doesn't mean it isn't complete bullshit, there are lots of books that are total trash
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    and just because it's in a book, doesn't mean it isn't complete bullshit, there are lots of books that are total trash
    Absolutely, how many books has Bill O'Reilly written?  Too many.
    The point though was that the bullshit is easy to spot in that format, and if it isn't, well then at least you've been fooled by a pro.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    and just because it's in a book, doesn't mean it isn't complete bullshit, there are lots of books that are total trash
    Absolutely, how many books has Bill O'Reilly written?  Too many.
    The point though was that the bullshit is easy to spot in that format, and if it isn't, well then at least you've been fooled by a pro.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    actually I have studied Tesla, and that is where I get my information on the subject and he absolutely believed Einstein was completely full of shit
    He was woefully out of his element.  Nearly (and more than, in some cases) 100 years of theoretical and experimental results have shown Einstein to be legit.
    Even if Tesla had left us some radical revision of the standard and quantum models, that certainly wouldn't have contained something as ridiculous and foolish as a flat Earth and the silly pseudo-scientific "proofs" of it.  
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    rgambs said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    yeah I don't get my information from memes, they are used as an illustration, as for youtube, with real news being basically blacked out from Mainstream Media sources, how else would you get information, other than youtube & alternative websites?
    Books.
    Any dumbass can put together a YouTube video that seems half plausible to someone gullible, Flat Earth videos would be the perfect example.
    It takes a much higher standard of truth (or bullshit skills) to write and publish a non-fiction book.
    actually I have studied Tesla, and that is where I get my information on the subject and he absolutely believed Einstein was completely full of shit
    He was woefully out of his element.  Nearly (and more than, in some cases) 100 years of theoretical and experimental results have shown Einstein to be legit.
    Even if Tesla had left us some radical revision of the standard and quantum models, that certainly wouldn't have contained something as ridiculous and foolish as a flat Earth and the silly pseudo-scientific "proofs" of it.  
    actually the theory of relativity has been proven incorrect
    http://aetherforce.com/electrical-engineer-disproves-einsteins-relativity-theory-the-ruins-of-106-years-relativity/
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
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  • PJWGIIIPJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 811
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    Who wouldn’t want more PJ shows? Of course!

    The extent to which I support the cause would depend on the details of the cause and candidate obviously, but generally speaking why wouldn’t you want this? More shows! More shows! More shows!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,310
    Yes
    NewJPage said:
    brianlux said:
    NewJPage said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    NewJPage said:
    Weren't they supporting the corporatist John Kerry in 2004?
    yes, I am sure they got lied to, and they were doing anything they could to beat Bush, if they had known what a absolute Warmonger John Kerry was, I have to believe they wouldn't have supported him
    That is a pretty offensive statement to make toward both band members and John Kerry. One might think that someone who gets their information from memes and YouTube videos and has glarring issues with a basic grasp of sentence structure would not be quite so critical of others
    LOL.  Sorry, not laughing at you NewJ, it's just that being critical of each other happens all the time here and many more than just BBH do it.. 

    As for, well now,  sentence structure, it we don't but sometimes all ok. 
    I'm usually a lurker here, so guess I'm just getting my wings. No offense meant toward anyone. I try not to be critical of others and should be better
    No problem!  It's nice to hear some fresh voices on AMT.  :smile:
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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    edited February 2018
    Yes
    mfc2006 said:
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
    1 meme in the whole fucking thread, sorry not apologizing, especially when I have far more post where they are my words and my thoughts, and I ain't worried about your commentary, you live your life, I live mine, you'll probably never understand my perspective, you would of had to have taken far more LSD in your life, all the members in the band have taken acid, so I am not really concerned about anybody's holier than thou judgements on the subject either, just to save some commentary.
    Post edited by Big Bank Hank on
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,948
    No
    I don’t care who they support I’m only interested in new music so until they release new material , I’ll stay away from their shows ..
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    edited March 2018
    Big Bank Hank said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Stop answering questions with memes and actually answer with your OWN words and this may progress. 
    1 meme in the whole fucking thread, sorry not apologizing, especially when I have far more post where they are my words and my thoughts, and I ain't worried about your commentary, you live your life, I live mine, you'll probably never understand my perspective, you would of had to have taken far more LSD in your life, all the members in the band have taken acid, so I am not really concerned about anybody's holier than thou judgements on the subject either, just to save some commentary.
    You don’t know me and I don’t know you. That we can agree on. That being said, you don’t know my perspective or where I'm coming from at all, so please don't act like you do. I'm sorry that I pointed out your love of memes in the thread where you only posted one. I could run through the threads you've started/posted in and count them, but that's not the point. 

    My post above wasn't rude, but merely an observation that some people may want to actually hear your thoughts instead of a meme. I'm not trolling or trying to incite a riot. Quite the opposite, in fact. Maybe I should've just sent you a message. 

    As for the acid/LSD comment, like I said earlier...you don't know me or what I've experienced in my life. And I certainly don't understand how/why this is relevant at all. You like PJ. Guess what? I do as well. If they all want to take acid, that's their choice.

    Again, not trolling or inciting a riot. Just responding. Cheers.
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  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    tbergs said:
    Honestly, no. That ship has sailed and its a different generation now. Technology is way more accessible and social media is how most communication is consumed.

    I would just like to see them tour, period. Not 7 random shows at massive stadiums. Something like Metallica just announced. If the band wants to draw off the current political state with some of their content then go ahead. Just get on the road and blow my socks off with Rock!
    I agree with this whole heartedly.
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