Why did they boo Eddie?

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

i'm sure many bands, or individual band members, vote right, or have. they most likely just aren't as vocal about it as hardline democratic musicians. how do we even know that none of the band members have ever voted red? i'm guessing ed never has, but any of the others? is it so inconceivable?

PJ_Soul · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

i'm sure many bands, or individual band members, vote right, or have. they most likely just aren't as vocal about it as hardline democratic musicians. how do we even know that none of the band members have ever voted red? i'm guessing ed never has, but any of the others? is it so inconceivable?

Maybe not when the Republican party was sane, but it's inconceivable now IMO.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

yes, that's kind of what i mean. weren't most of the band in their late 20's when ten came out? that's a full decade of voting.

PJ_Soul · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

yes, that's kind of what i mean. weren't most of the band in their late 20's when ten came out? that's a full decade of voting.

Yeah.... I'd still be surprised, but you never know.... I mean, Dave Abbruzzese would be the mostly likely Republican, and look what happened to him.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

he was actually the first one that came to mind. also mike. i mean, he's the one guy in the entire group who we don't hear too much from in regards to politics.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

Go Beavers · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

he was actually the first one that came to mind. also mike. i mean, he's the one guy in the entire group who we don't hear too much from in regards to politics.

I remember Mike saying in an interview that there was a period he wasn’t playing in a band and turned republican or almost turned republican, something close to that. Like he wasn’t sure what the hell he was going to do.

PJ_Soul · January 2018

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

he was actually the first one that came to mind. also mike. i mean, he's the one guy in the entire group who we don't hear too much from in regards to politics.

I remember Mike saying in an interview that there was a period he wasn’t playing in a band and turned republican or almost turned republican, something close to that. Like he wasn’t sure what the hell he was going to do.

And it means he's not a Republican. He also did that whole healthcare should be for everyone no matter what promo video thingy. That's definitely not a Republican viewpoint.

Go Beavers · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

he was actually the first one that came to mind. also mike. i mean, he's the one guy in the entire group who we don't hear too much from in regards to politics.

I remember Mike saying in an interview that there was a period he wasn’t playing in a band and turned republican or almost turned republican, something close to that. Like he wasn’t sure what the hell he was going to do.

And it means he's not a Republican. He also did that whole healthcare should be for everyone no matter what promo video thingy. That's definitely not a Republican viewpoint.

Oh I know he’s nowhere near a republican. I was just trying to think of any republican reference from the band. It was definately in the context of Mike feeling like he was lost at that point in time.

Bentleyspop · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

I've never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal, pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc
I just don't understand or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

riley540 · January 2018

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

I've never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal, pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc
I just don't understand or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah,
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us.

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2018

riley540 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

I've never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal, pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc
I just don't understand or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah,
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us.

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view.

You've never come across as a dickhead. I'm not so sure that post was aimed at you.

brianlux · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well yeah, anti-establishment, but we all know they were liberal as hell, and I don't underestimate the influence of your leanings in this context in your art, whether the actual subject matter of the art is political or not. IMO. Ten wouldn't have been Ten if anything as major as political beliefs had been different with the band or Eddie IMO, and their actions and how they did business (or refused to) would be totally different too, probably. I mean... you can't be a Republican and also set your ideals as a band/business in line with Fugazi, which Eddie was into back then, you know what I mean?

Early on, I might have assumed Pearl Jam were left leaning but I honestly don't see anything about Ten that would indicate that anymore than Ted Nugent's first (self-titled) album. In fact, had Nugent's first couple of albums come out in the late 80's to early 90's, I would not have been surprised in the least some of the guys in Pearl Jam had been fans. Henry Rollins was a big Nuge fan years ago.

Again, I'm not talking about the actual music on Ten. I'm talking what influenced it and its very existence, not the literal content. But yeah, even back then we all knew that the band was left leaning. Anyone who says that wasn't obvious in all kinds of definable and/or indefinable ways is kidding themselves.

Well, it's true, there were clues...

Image: https://31.media.tumblr.com/9aaca41cb071e6452ef24864df4419e4/tumblr_meu1j5JsBs1qzsaj1o1_400.gif

mace1229 · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2018

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Nothing gets my blood boiling more than guys with a differing opinion on oboerion.

It enrages me.

At least I think so?

Bentleyspop · January 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Nothing gets my blood boiling more than guys with a differing opinion on oboerion.

It enrages me.

At least I think so?

riley540 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

I've never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal, pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc
I just don't understand or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah,
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us.

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view.

Sorry I wasn't trying to denigrate everyone with "right" leanings. Just pointing the finger at the people who come on here and profess to be white supremacists or racists or homophobes or xenophobia or anti-semites.

And just to be clear I do not now nor have I ever supported any person or artist who has a differing opinion about oboerion.

brianlux · January 2018

I'm OK with oboerions in the key of B♭, but anything else? Fugedaboudit!

Go Beavers · January 2018

It all goes downhill when someone brings up oboerions.

mace1229 · January 2018

Bentleyspop said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Nothing gets my blood boiling more than guys with a differing opinion on oboerion.

It enrages me.

At least I think so?

riley540 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side.

Dems wouldn't be there.

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music.

I've never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal, pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc
I just don't understand or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah,
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us.

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view.

Sorry I wasn't trying to denigrate everyone with "right" leanings. Just pointing the finger at the people who come on here and profess to be white supremacists or racists or homophobes or xenophobia or anti-semites.

And just to be clear I do not now nor have I ever supported any person or artist who has a differing opinion about oboerion.

Who has professed to be racist?
And you think you can't be Christian and a Pearl Jam fan? That's one of the most absurd things I've heard.
i don't see how different personal opinions would impact Joe I enjoy their music. It seems very narrow minded to me to think you can appreciate people who are different than you.

brianlux · January 2018

I have to admit I've always been a bit surprised that there are hard right leaning Pearl Jam fans, but then maybe the music has a broad enough appeal that the band members' obviously strong left-leaning personalities (which do often come out in the music) doen't matter as much to those fans.

The people I am really puzzled about at times are those folks who are outspokenly right-wing and who by far mostly post on AMT and yet have little to say about the music itself. I don't get that (and also don't see that happen as much as in the past).

I guess if I looked at it in reverse, if there was a band that was outwardly and strongly right wing (and face it, that's pretty small company) and yet I thought their music was outstanding, I might call myself a fan, but only a fan of the music. I doubt I would have any interest in talking on-line about any aspect of that band other than their music. And if that band became increasing outspoken about an overall right wing agenda, I would lose interest pretty quickly. For example, he may have done some decent work early on, but I have no Ted Nugent in my record collection nor any interest in doing so.

Why did they boo Eddie?

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