President Oprah? President The Rock?

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

I personally think Oprah would do a good job and prefer her to the current Democratic short list.

based on what, exactly?

First off she is clearly intelligent and has a track record of success. Second she would not be beholden to special interests...she is self made and has plenty of money. Third she could navigate the far-left democratic base without being strictly tied to their ever expanding SJW platform that strangles so many other candidates. There is no doubt that she would have to develop a platform beyond the speech she gave last night but I think she could do it. Upside potential. Lots of it.

this was all the same talking points about the supposed upside of Trump, all of which have been proven false.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

you think a black woman can unite a country that still holds neo-nazi rallies and people who protest against no longer celebrating the confederate flag? you think a BLACK WOMAN can do this?

JimmyV · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

I think the chance for that to happen in America is already dead. It's not going to happen.

It could still happen, but people have to be willing to be brought together. Too many Americans today talk about wanting to come together but really mean they just want the other side to agree with them. Coming together means compromising. It means seeing the merit in your opponents argument and acknowledging the flaws in your own. Most people I know don't want to do that.

KC138045 · January 2018

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

No way! She's as far left as anyone and the first women president being a black women. We'd have another civil war on our hands.

BS44325 · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

you think a black woman can unite a country that still holds neo-nazi rallies and people who protest against no longer celebrating the confederate flag? you think a BLACK WOMAN can do this?

Uhhh...absolutely....a back man did it only a few short years ago.

PJ_Soul · January 2018

JimmyV said:

PJ_Soul said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

I think the chance for that to happen in America is already dead. It's not going to happen.

It could still happen, but people have to be willing to be brought together. Too many Americans today talk about wanting to come together but really mean they just want the other side to agree with them. Coming together means compromising. It means seeing the merit in your opponents argument and acknowledging the flaws in your own. Most people I know don't want to do that.

That's why it's not going to happen. Not when issues like abortion rights and gun rights and immigration and race and war and oil are in play. No fucking way. Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of faith in the American public or in corporate America.

KC138045 · January 2018

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

you think a black woman can unite a country that still holds neo-nazi rallies and people who protest against no longer celebrating the confederate flag? you think a BLACK WOMAN can do this?

Uhhh...absolutely....a back man did it only a few short years ago.

I completely disagree. The division we see today started under Obama.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2018

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

you think a black woman can unite a country that still holds neo-nazi rallies and people who protest against no longer celebrating the confederate flag? you think a BLACK WOMAN can do this?

Uhhh...absolutely....a back man did it only a few short years ago.

so now you are giving obama credit for uniting the country? he was a great president, but if anything, the hatred started to bubble when he was elected. and it is now boiling over.

BS44325 · January 2018

KC138045 said:

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

No way! She's as far left as anyone and the first women president being a black women. We'd have another civil war on our hands.

Is that true though? How many far left positions is she really beholden too? Again I could be wrong...there could be a ton of video/audio taking far left stances I'm not aware of but other then strong support for Obama as a candidate I'm not sure she has really locked herself into anything.

PJ_Soul · January 2018

Oprah being POTUS wouldn't start a civil war, lol. If Trump doesn't, then Oprah certainly wouldn't.

JimmyV · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

JimmyV said:

PJ_Soul said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

I think the chance for that to happen in America is already dead. It's not going to happen.

It could still happen, but people have to be willing to be brought together. Too many Americans today talk about wanting to come together but really mean they just want the other side to agree with them. Coming together means compromising. It means seeing the merit in your opponents argument and acknowledging the flaws in your own. Most people I know don't want to do that.

That's why it's not going to happen. Not when issues like abortion rights and gun rights and immigration and race and war and oil are in play. No fucking way. Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of faith in the American public or in corporate America.

I don't either. Not anymore. I wish I did but 63 million Americans voting for Trump broke me. I don't see a realistic path that leads to any of these divides shrinking.

KC138045 · January 2018

PJ_Soul said:

Oprah being POTUS wouldn't start a civil war, lol. If Trump doesn't, then Oprah certainly wouldn't.

OK maybe not a civil war but there would certainly be more division

PJ_Soul · January 2018

JimmyV said:

PJ_Soul said:

JimmyV said:

PJ_Soul said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

I think the chance for that to happen in America is already dead. It's not going to happen.

It could still happen, but people have to be willing to be brought together. Too many Americans today talk about wanting to come together but really mean they just want the other side to agree with them. Coming together means compromising. It means seeing the merit in your opponents argument and acknowledging the flaws in your own. Most people I know don't want to do that.

That's why it's not going to happen. Not when issues like abortion rights and gun rights and immigration and race and war and oil are in play. No fucking way. Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of faith in the American public or in corporate America.

I don't either. Not anymore. I wish I did but 63 million Americans voting for Trump broke me. I don't see a realistic path that leads to any of these divides shrinking.

Yeah, and while the economic system will necessarily keep growing the gap between rich and poor and eliminating the middle class - something Oprah isn't going to do anything about - shit's just going to get worse and worse. North America is on a capitalist one-way train to collapse IMHO.

HesCalledDyer · January 2018

Reagan and Trump are the two absloute worst Presidents in this nation's history.

NO MORE FUCKING CELEBRITIES!!

KC138045 · January 2018

HesCalledDyer said:

Reagan and Trump are the two absloute worst Presidents in this nation's history.

NO MORE FUCKING CELEBRITIES!!

Reagan? I don't know about that and plus he was Governor of California for 8 years before becoming President. So at least he had political experience.

BS44325 · January 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

KC138045 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm still holding out hope for President Qualified Candidate Who Knows How To Govern And Inspires People To Follow Them.

This! We need a president who can bring the country together, not divide it further.

Don't sell Oprah short...she has the potential to do this.

you think a black woman can unite a country that still holds neo-nazi rallies and people who protest against no longer celebrating the confederate flag? you think a BLACK WOMAN can do this?

Uhhh...absolutely....a back man did it only a few short years ago.

so now you are giving obama credit for uniting the country? he was a great president, but if anything, the hatred started to bubble when he was elected. and it is now boiling over.

Now hang on one second...everybody on here knows that I am no Obama supporter but let there be no doubt that his 2008 campaign was brilliantly executed on a theme of unity... "There is no red state, there is no blue state...etc.". On the day of his inauguration it was a magnificent moment and at that time he had the opportunity to be the uniter that he campaigned as. Unfortunately the Pelosi/Reid congress took a different approach and took the agenda far to the left. The reason I did not like Obama is that for all his talk of unity I had a feeling that when all was said and done he was at heart one of "them" and would be fully on board with the plan. The "hatred" you speak of was not a racist outcry to a black man. It was an outcry against the hard left progressive agenda. I've said this a million times but nobody on here is willing to accept it. You would much rather prefer that people are resisting skin colour instead of your ideas. I get it...mentally that is too hard to process. Nevertheless thousands of Obama voters in the rust belt switched there support to Trump. They thought they were getting a unifier but instead got militant progressivism so they said fuck it and voted for a son of a bitch in 2016. That doesn't mean though that these voters are lost to democrats forever. They will appreciate Trump's results but at some point they will tire of the 24/7 fist fight. The question for democrats is who will be the democratic candidate that can capitalize on Trump's results. The rust belt voter will eventually want a unifier even if she is a black woman! What they won't want however is a return to militant progressivism. Oprah has been in their living room for years. She has the ability to be their candidate.

Kat · January 2018

I think Oprah's heart is in the right place and she could be a great asset in some governmental position but I want the next president to be qualified for the position...fully qualified and experienced with many of the job requirements. Like any job, experience is a quality. We'll have a lot of mending to be done around the world with a lot of other countries.

HesCalledDyer · January 2018

KC138045 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Reagan and Trump are the two absloute worst Presidents in this nation's history.

NO MORE FUCKING CELEBRITIES!!

Reagan? I don't know about that and plus he was Governor of California for 8 years before becoming President. So at least he had political experience.

Yes, Reagan. His economic policies were absolutely fucking horrible. We have him to thank for the big corporate, greedy, capitalist mess we're now stuck in and will never get out of. Great speaker, terrible President.

oftenreading · January 2018

Obama was in no way, shape or form a "militant progressive".

brianlux · January 2018

Kat said:

I think Oprah's heart is in the right place and she could be a great asset in some governmental position but I want the next president to be qualified for the position...fully qualified and experienced with many of the job requirements. Like any job, experience is a quality. We'll have a lot of mending to be done around the world with a lot of other countries.

My feelings exactly. I like Oprah fine but she has no experience in politics. We need candidates who have good ideas AND experience.

President Oprah? President The Rock?

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