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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    unsung said:
    That's some interesting logic. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    Libertarianism 101
    Neat little thought experiments and logic problems utterly devoid of consideration for practical reality.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,967
    unsung said:
    Kind of a ridiculous chart. So if something isn't important to you than it's not important to 320 million other people? Libertarianism? Sounds like selfishness.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited December 2017
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,447
    unsung said:
    Cool chart. Can you add “Do you have any money left for it?” and appropriate streams above “People would pay for it voluntarily”?

    I’m guessing one of those streams would ask “Are you a worthy contributing member of society?” directly above the “Should’ve worked harder; go die and help population control”.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Oh, I know, you are entirely consistent in your extremism, always have been.
    You just don't let it show all that often.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Public schools (aka "government schools") have their down side but I worked in them and it was not all bad, not by far.  Besides, if it weren't for public schools we night not have had...

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:pparently
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Oh, I know, you are entirely consistent in your extremism, always have been.
    You just don't let it show all that often.
    Yeah, I fully admit to not support those indoctrination centers.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    edited December 2017
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Public schools (aka "government schools") have their down side but I worked in them and it was not all bad, not by far.  Besides, if it weren't for public schools we night not have had...

    But Brian anyone with half a brain knows public schools are government  funded indoctrination centers whose only goal is to brainwash the children to accept people of different races, creeds, nationalities, religions, and sexual orientations.
    Not to mention communism, socialism, leninism, and stalinism.
    And pinkos don't  forget the pinkos

    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Bentleyspop said:
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Public schools (aka "government schools") have their down side but I worked in them and it was not all bad, not by far.  Besides, if it weren't for public schools we night not have had...

    But Brian anyone with half a brain knows public schools are government  funded indoctrination centers whose only goal is to brainwash the children to accept people of different races, creeds, nationalities, religions, and sexual orientations.
    Not to mention communism, socialism, leninism, and stalinism.
    And pinkos don't  forget the pinkos

    All correct, BP only it's "galldang pinkos!" (often punctuated with "damn it!").
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Just wondering when your day of worship is...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Bentleyspop said:
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
    Public schools (aka "government schools") have their down side but I worked in them and it was not all bad, not by far.  Besides, if it weren't for public schools we night not have had...

    But Brian anyone with half a brain knows public schools are government  funded indoctrination centers whose only goal is to brainwash the children to accept people of different races, creeds, nationalities, religions, and sexual orientations.
    Not to mention communism, socialism, leninism, and stalinism.
    And pinkos don't  forget the pinkos

    At least you admit it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited December 2017
    unsung said:
    Just wondering when your day of worship is...
    Define "worship", please.

    Edit: oh, I see, because I said "galldang it" and "damn it".  Meant no offense to anyone but I don't consider such phrases sacrilege on any particular day.  If it's "wrong" to say something, it's either always wrong or never wrong. 
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
    Chicago was caught shortening the yellow light timing after red light cameras were installed, and after they installed the speed cameras they removed a bunch of speed bumps.
    Whatever happened to personal responsibility? You need speed bumps to avoid the speed cameras? Incapable of driving the speed limit? It’s all big governments fault.
    I would agree that there seems to be a general lack of personal responsibility.
    But removing speed bumps to put in a camera seems to confirm the suspicion they aren't s they for safety, but for revenue. many cities and even a few states have banned the use of red light cameras because of the number of lawful drivers who were getting tickets. And it sucks when you have to take 2 days off of work to fight a ticket in many cases. Most prefer to just pay $100 fine that to take off work, and that's just wrong when many never deserved the ticket to begin with.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,447
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
    Chicago was caught shortening the yellow light timing after red light cameras were installed, and after they installed the speed cameras they removed a bunch of speed bumps.
    Whatever happened to personal responsibility? You need speed bumps to avoid the speed cameras? Incapable of driving the speed limit? It’s all big governments fault.
    I would agree that there seems to be a general lack of personal responsibility.
    But removing speed bumps to put in a camera seems to confirm the suspicion they aren't s they for safety, but for revenue. many cities and even a few states have banned the use of red light cameras because of the number of lawful drivers who were getting tickets. And it sucks when you have to take 2 days off of work to fight a ticket in many cases. Most prefer to just pay $100 fine that to take off work, and that's just wrong when many never deserved the ticket to begin with.
    All it means is the city is attempting to condition a population that doesn’t require a costly bump installation for every time they want drivers to behave. They have rights to all the revenue they make for that, given the population could have chosen to simply behave better and not require the city to have had them in the first place. They do owe the people a fully accurate speed test though; anything else should require a manual human review before inconveniencing a citizen.
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