Star Wars May the 4th be with you (Spoilers)

JK_Livin · December 2017

dankind said:

https://youtu.be/wRgmR9riuzc

Love that movie. "What's a Nubian?" hahahahahahahaha

JimmyV · December 2017

I'm seeing it again today. I've heard so many people say they liked it better the second time. I love Star Wars and I really do want to love this movie. I'm skeptical a second viewing is going to change my mind on the storytelling problems and how it fails to really sync up with the movie that came before it. But...we'll see.

PB11041 · December 2017

JimmyV said:

I'm seeing it again today. I've heard so many people say they liked it better the second time. I love Star Wars and I really do want to love this movie. I'm skeptical a second viewing is going to change my mind on the storytelling problems and how it fails to really sync up with the movie that came before it. But...we'll see.

Unless the 2nd time is an alternate version of the film, I am inclined to say it won't change unless one is willing to suspend all belief that stories should at least be somewhat consistent and not video games.

MayDay10 · December 2017

That hyper-speed kamikaze into the fleet... my immediate thought was why wasn't that done yet, and not done at all over the last 5 episodes? You would think the rebels would have been able to weaponize the hyperspace drive already and used it. I thought it was very 'lazy'. I also thought Leia should have pulled a Harry Stamper and jumped in for the kamikaze and gone out like that. I liked the Laura Dern character and she would have/could have filled the Leia void for the films to come (without the pack a day and decades of drug use screen presence).

Other spots that were lazy were when Finn and that girl were in a hangar full of storm troopers, officers, executioners, etc. Everyone armored but them. Everyone was obliterated, but they were relatively "Unbroken". Come on. Of course, the popular one was the Leia/force floating back thing... how unnecessary and laughingly hokey.

I also thought the clean killing of Snoke was a bit lazy/easy. Killed with a light sabre at his side that he somehow cannot sense, being all powerful? I also dont understand how Rae is trained. She got 3 lessons (2 I think I recall), and seemed to fail them.

Don't like how much General Hux is portrayed like a weak boob and used only for comedy relief. He is the commander of the First Order Fleet and he has been pretty much de-pantsed in this movie, only to be laughed at.

Im not one to pick apart Star Wars movies for errors and such. I actually like(d) the Prequels for what they are and felt people were way too harsh on them and piled on with a bit of mob mentality.

This movie really didn't seem to go anywhere. Characters really didn't develop much. The status of the First Order and Rebellion is relatively unchanged. IMO, this may have been the worst of the 9 Star Wars films.

I do love the little cameos by aliens. They add a lot of flavor and depth into the worlds.

HesCalledDyer · December 2017

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:

I thought it was fantastic. The scene where the ship goes through the other ship at light speed was one of the best scenes of a movie ever.

Idiots in the cinema thought that silence after it went through before the explosion thought the silence was a cue for them to talk, spoiled that moment.

I'm pretty sure I let out a "fuckin eh" during the silence.. not loudly, but not quite under my breath either. Hope I didn't ruin the moment for those around me, but I just couldn't help it.

HesCalledDyer · December 2017

rgambs said:

But Star Wars has always played very loose with the laws of physics, that's for sure.
The worst instance is in TFA, when they suck the flames of a star across the interplanetary vacuum into the core of the Starkiller Base. That's a hell of a whopper there.

Or, ya know, dropping a payload of bombs at free fall speed in outer space.

bflynn1 · December 2017

A friend of mine had a theory.

So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

JK_Livin · December 2017

bflynn1 said:

A friend of mine had a theory.
So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

How did Darth Maul return?

MayDay10 · December 2017

bflynn1 said:

A friend of mine had a theory.
So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

I wouldnt read into all sorts of signals and hidden meanings. I dont think they are looking that deeply into the mythology... especially not 'on screen' in the movies.

With that said, I suspect Snoke is still alive and will come back with a vengeance in IX. Just seemed too powerful to just die by basically slipping on a banana peel. He will probably be needed to conclude Kylo's story arc, as well as continue the lineage of Sith/Empire/New Order antagonist thing.

bflynn1 · December 2017

JK_Livin said:

bflynn1 said:

A friend of mine had a theory.
So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

How did Darth Maul return?

In the Clone Wars I believe

elvistheking44 · December 2017

JimmyV said:

I'm seeing it again today. I've heard so many people say they liked it better the second time. I love Star Wars and I really do want to love this movie. I'm skeptical a second viewing is going to change my mind on the storytelling problems and how it fails to really sync up with the movie that came before it. But...we'll see.

I will also see it again. It kills me that I found more dislike for this than any other Star Wars film.

rgambs · December 2017

PB11041 said:

JimmyV said:

I'm seeing it again today. I've heard so many people say they liked it better the second time. I love Star Wars and I really do want to love this movie. I'm skeptical a second viewing is going to change my mind on the storytelling problems and how it fails to really sync up with the movie that came before it. But...we'll see.

Unless the 2nd time is an alternate version of the film, I am inclined to say it won't change unless one is willing to suspend all belief that stories should at least be somewhat consistent and not video games.

What was so inconsistent about it?

Thoughts_Arrive · December 2017

pjsteelerfan said:

I enjoyed some if this guys points about the last jedi

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-list-of-some-of-the-times-the-last-jedi-told-the-olde-1821396631

Awesome article and the comments too.
Makes me feel better about having liked it.

Thoughts_Arrive · December 2017

bflynn1 said:

A friend of mine had a theory.
So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

He is Darth Plageuis. He will cheat death and return.

Thoughts_Arrive · December 2017

No one has mentioned Admiral Akbar's death.
R.I.P Admiral!
I shall honour you by eating a calamari salad.

rgambs · December 2017

It's time to let the past die.
I think that's a great theme for the point in time, both inside the Star Wars universe and in ours as fans.

Thoughts_Arrive · December 2017

rgambs said:

It's time to let the past die.
I think that's a great theme for the point in time, both inside the Star Wars universe and in ours as fans.

Let's not forget Luke's line which was used in the trailer, "this is not going to go the way you think"

DarthMaeglin · December 2017

F Me In The Brain said:

I am already on record as liking it but the Princess floating around and then pulling herself back in was, hands down, the worst moment of the 'new' movies. I laughed out loud, while others clapped, in the theater.

Just saw it today, and besides the fact we keep seeing new Force abilities that weren't even hinted at before (freezing blaster shots and people, now surviving the vacuum of space), why wasn't everyone sucked out of the cruiser when Leia pulled herself back in? Did she use the Force off-screen to seal the bridge (didn't seem like she came in through an airlock). I don't like to nitpick fantasy movies, but it was depressurization of the bridge that sucked her so far out into space, but when she comes back, the door just opens?

I did enjoy the movie, but I agree with others that maybe Disney needs to slow things down a bit to plot these out a bit better (plus the Star Wars ennui I'm starting to feel from all the cross-promotion). I get they want to make back their investment, but they shouldn't be playing this for a short-term return, in my opinion. At least they look pretty, lol.

To be honest, I'm actually starting to wish Lucas hadn't sold the franchise, I'm curious what his vision for this trilogy was (which he apparently gave to Disney in the sale). I really hope IX stops worrying about callbacks to the original trilogy (felt like most of Snoke's lines were him parroting the Emperor). At this point I half expect IX to be Revenge Of The Porgs, sadly, lol.

Thoughts_Arrive · December 2017

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It's time, for the butthurt, to end.

Wma31394 · December 2017

bflynn1 said:

JK_Livin said:

bflynn1 said:

A friend of mine had a theory.
So Snoke was killed by getting cut in half, but Darth Maul was also cut in half and was able to use the dark side to sustain himself until he was found and then saved. That being said, the current working title for Episode IX is "Black Diamond", and Snoke wears a black diamond ring on his hand. So is it possible that he returns like Darth Maul did and plays a continued role in the next episode and we still get some more backstory on him?

How did Darth Maul return?

In the Clone Wars I believe

Really? I don't remember this.

Star Wars May the 4th be with you (Spoilers)

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