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  • JC29856 said:
    where did blindly voting Democrat get me?
    Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
     
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  • Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:
    high bar you set for your elected officials, what could go wrong! gold standard = speak proper English.
    true progressive here!


    #centrists "troll trolling"  #herdmentality
    Well, it's a place to start. 
    More of a bar than you set with your vote!
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  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    What you consider radical left in America, we Europeans would probably call centrist. Ye have such warped views on socialism 
    Frightening.
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
    A POTUS capable of properly speaking English?

    If you actually cared about progressive values and weren't just using that as your trolling theme, the extremely long list of regressions taking place would have stopped those words from passing your lips.
    I don't care about progressive values.  I want most of them stopped.  Why?  Because that isn't the role of government as it was intended.   If that system was so good and people really wanted it then they wouldn't need government to enforce it through the threat of force and imprisonment.
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    unsung said:
    I don't care about progressive values.  I want most of them stopped.  Why?  Because that isn't the role of government as it was intended.   If that system was so good and people really wanted it then they wouldn't need government to enforce it through the threat of force and imprisonment.
    do you even constitution?  it's literally the first sentence

    Libertarians are just people who consider every issue logically and thoroughly; until they can rationalize supporting the Republican position
  • Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    unsung said:
    Frightening.
    I agree, American politics and society are very frightening
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I referring to dependence on government.
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited December 2017
    CM189191 said:
    do you even constitution?  it's literally the first sentence
    Libertarians are just people who consider every issue logically and thoroughly; until they can rationalize supporting the Republican position
    That doesn't mean to give you everything that you want.  What they are authorized to do is covered under Art 1 Sec VIII.  

    I just can't imagine what it is like to expect things be provided for you.  You have the opportunity, so earn the result.
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Anyway back on topic of police abuse.
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    unsung said:
    That doesn't mean to give you everything that you want.  What they are authorized to do is covered under Art 1 Sec VIII.  

    I just can't imagine what it is like to expect things be provided for you.  You have the opportunity, so earn the result.

    This one?

    The Congress shall have Power ... collect Taxes, to ... provide for the ... and general Welfare of the United States; 

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    I would say that's pretty broad authority to provide whatever the people of the US deem necessary, whether it's public lands like Bears Ears universal health care, or a universal basic income. 

    Fiscal conservatism has you convinced the Constitution is only there to fund industrial military complex national defense; and you're all to happy to fall in line, then turn around complain about the heavy handed tactics police use.  
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    UBI?  LOL.

    Not until we stop importing the 3rd world, and rid ourselves of all other forms of welfare.

    The left won't be happy until the country is bankrupt and the citizens going through refuse containers for dinner.
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    unsung said:
    UBI?  LOL.

    Not until we stop importing the 3rd world, and rid ourselves of all other forms of welfare.

    The left won't be happy until the country is bankrupt and the citizens going through refuse containers for dinner.
    Oh lordy, talk about eye roll
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  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,381
    unsung said:
    UBI?  LOL.

    Not until we stop importing the 3rd world, and rid ourselves of all other forms of welfare.

    The left won't be happy until the country is bankrupt and the citizens going through refuse containers for dinner.
    Ooh ooh I'll  take this one.....

    "Stop importing the 3rd world"??!!
    Seriously? 
    Who's  going to mow your lawn?
    Who's going to put on your new roof?
    Who's  going to clean your dishes next time you're  out for dinner?
    Who's  going to process  your meat at the slaughterhouse?
    Who's  going to remove the asbestos?
    Who's  going to harvest your vegetables?
    Etc etc

    How about those dipshit republicans on Capitol Hill looking to add 1.5 trillion dollars to the deficit?
    Seems like they are doing their best to bankrupt this country.


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    edited December 2017
    unsung said:
    UBI?  LOL.

    Not until we stop importing the 3rd world, and rid ourselves of all other forms of welfare.

    The left won't be happy until the country is bankrupt and the citizens going through refuse containers for dinner.

    Scooorrre Boooaarrrd!!!
    Scooorrre Boooaarrrd!!!
    Scooorrre Boooaarrrd!!!

  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ByBentleyspop said:
    Ooh ooh I'll  take this one.....

    "Stop importing the 3rd world"??!!
    Seriously? 
    Who's  going to mow your lawn?
    Who's going to put on your new roof?
    Who's  going to clean your dishes next time you're  out for dinner?
    Who's  going to process  your meat at the slaughterhouse?
    Who's  going to remove the asbestos?
    Who's  going to harvest your vegetables?
    Etc etc

    How about those dipshit republicans on Capitol Hill looking to add 1.5 trillion dollars to the deficit?
    Seems like they are doing their best to bankrupt this country.


    Gee, could this be any more racist?
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    Gee, could this be any more racist?
    Yes, it could be your post, which was more racist. 
     
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  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,381
    Yes, it could be your post, which was more racist. 
     
    Not meant to be racist at all.
    Just points out some of the jobs that Americans won't  do anymore.
    So then immigrants have to do them or they don't  get done.
    Just had my roof replaced.  Every single roofer was hispanic.
    Just had my old asbestos shingles removed prior t installation of the new roof. Every guy on that crew was hispanic.
    Friend of mine works in construction management in the Chicago area. He says  that most, if not all, of the guys on the asbestos removal crews are either Polish or hispanic.
    No Americans.

    Eventually, in a few generations, everyone  will be tan. Get over it.
  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited December 2017
    Not meant to be racist at all.
    Just points out some of the jobs that Americans won't  do anymore.
    So then immigrants have to do them or they don't  get done.
    Just had my roof replaced.  Every single roofer was hispanic.
    Just had my old asbestos shingles removed prior t installation of the new roof. Every guy on that crew was hispanic.
    Friend of mine works in construction management in the Chicago area. He says  that most, if not all, of the guys on the asbestos removal crews are either Polish or hispanic.
    No Americans.

    Eventually, in a few generations, everyone  will be tan. Get over it.
    If you're replying to me, I wasn't calling your post racist; I was calling the other post racist. Maybe poorly phrased. 
    Post edited by oftenreading on
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    Not meant to be racist at all.
    Just points out some of the jobs that Americans won't  do anymore.
    So then immigrants have to do them or they don't  get done.
    Just had my roof replaced.  Every single roofer was hispanic.
    Just had my old asbestos shingles removed prior t installation of the new roof. Every guy on that crew was hispanic.
    Friend of mine works in construction management in the Chicago area. He says  that most, if not all, of the guys on the asbestos removal crews are either Polish or hispanic.
    No Americans.

    Eventually, in a few generations, everyone  will be tan. Get over it.
    This might be better...."jobs Americans won't do anymore because of the pay rate"

    ask your friend
    1. what the polish and Hispanics are paid per hour?
    2. what the owner or owners are paid per hour?
     
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