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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    JC29856 said:
    manufacturing jobs just ain't coming back

    What exactly has Trump done to accomplish these things?  Other than ride the trends he picked up when he took office?
    Slashed regulations, unshackled the energy industry, made it harder to hire cheap illegal labour, pushed to reform the tax code all of which has boosted economic confidence, investment and hiring. It’s pretty simple actually. Not sure why the AMT just doesn’t understand economics 101.
    Your wrong (again). Econ 101 is supply and demand. 

    None of those are supply or demand. 

    Not an economist, but I played one in college. 
    Energy supply? Labour Supply? Did you really play one in college? There’s no way that you did.


    Go on.....enlighten me....
    Enlighten you on supply and demand?

    1) Unshackle energy companies - they hire workers that in turn produce energy - which results in increase supply - which reduces prices - which reduced costs to businesses and citizens - which puts more money in their pocket - which is used to invest or spend.
    2) Remove illegal labour - which increases demand for legal labour - which drives up wages - which puts more money in employees pockets - which is used to invest or spend.

    Is this really foreign to you? Either admit you didn’t take Econ 101 or admit you just weren’t paying attention in class.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    JC29856 said:
    manufacturing jobs just ain't coming back

    What exactly has Trump done to accomplish these things?  Other than ride the trends he picked up when he took office?
    Slashed regulations, unshackled the energy industry, made it harder to hire cheap illegal labour, pushed to reform the tax code all of which has boosted economic confidence, investment and hiring. It’s pretty simple actually. Not sure why the AMT just doesn’t understand economics 101.
    Your wrong (again). Econ 101 is supply and demand. 

    None of those are supply or demand. 

    Not an economist, but I played one in college. 
    Energy supply? Labour Supply? Did you really play one in college? There’s no way that you did.


    Go on.....enlighten me....
    Enlighten you on supply and demand?

    1) Unshackle energy companies - they hire workers that in turn produce energy - which results in increase supply - which reduces prices - which reduced costs to businesses and citizens - which puts more money in their pocket - which is used to invest or spend.
    2) Remove illegal labour - which increases demand for legal labour - which drives up wages - which puts more money in employees pockets - which is used to invest or spend.

    Is this really foreign to you? Either admit you didn’t take Econ 101 or admit you just weren’t paying attention in class.
    1. Energy prices haven’t gone down.
    2. Wages haven’t gone up.

    Delusion
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    All repubes, I can hope? I can see the tearful, “I have sinned against you” proclamations and prayer circles on the house floor. 
     
    If they are indeed guilty then I don't care if they're repub or dem. 

    But it's pretty clear that the Rs won't offer even a limited apology or admit to sinning unless they're caught red handed. 

    (And can I just say I liked "rePUBES"? Snicker) 
     
    Oh I don’t care which party they’re from, as like you, if they’re guilty, they gotta go. But I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t tell you that I hope it’s at least 10-1 repubes to dems so we can get the house back and begin impeachment hearings based on factual evidence. And wouldn’t that be ironic just desserts for Trump for picking the scab off of an old wound by feeding the debate with his endorsement of Roy Moore?

    You new to these parts?
    “I so hope the rapists are republicans!” 

    Classic Halifax
    Haven’t we heard for decades that the inner city crime commiters are libs and vote Democrat? And thanks for misrepresenting what I said but I know you have trouble reading and comprehending and following up with expressions of cogent thought.
     
    Everybody knows what you said. Everybody knows you keep a rapist scorecard that you check nightly. Good luck with that. 
    Please highlight the term “rapist” in my post you quoted. And then explain again why you won’t give the babysitter a ride home.
    Glad you brought that up actually. Doesn’t seem so crazy now does it. Mike Pence doesn’t seem so ridiculous does he? I guess we were just a little ahead of our time. If only Al Franken followed the same rules he wouldn’t be ruining your rapist scorecard.
    Is Al Franken a rapist? News to me. You still haven’t explained yourself.
     
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Untenable 

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html
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  • mfc2006
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    Dear BS,

    Enjoy spreading BS.

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  • my2hands
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    At least BS tries, I'll give him credit... I was worried he was going down the dark path of trolling...  but honestly, it's hard to take someone serious when they still think the Iraq invasion was a good idea
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    why cant we just do campaign finance reform, term limits for congress.... with a topping of education reform and call it a day and see where that goes

    why do we require a cartoon character to undermine key citizen protections, sell out to republican donors, renege on international agreements, and poison our air, water, and wildlife to somehow prove some kind of point to everyone?  
  • josevolution
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    MayDay10 said:
    why cant we just do campaign finance reform, term limits for congress.... with a topping of education reform and call it a day and see where that goes

    why do we require a cartoon character to undermine key citizen protections, sell out to republican donors, renege on international agreements, and poison our air, water, and wildlife to somehow prove some kind of point to everyone?  
    It’s too late I hate to think what’s coming in the next 3yrs .
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    Trump’s question to his rally’s audience last night of, “how’s your 401K doing,” got tepid applause. 401K? What’s that?
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  • josevolution
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    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363394-naacp-trump-should-not-attend-mississippi-civil-rights-museum?amp

    Your not welcome you fool , keep endorsing racist child molesters ...
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  • CM189191
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    JC29856 said:
    manufacturing jobs just ain't coming back

    What exactly has Trump done to accomplish these things?  Other than ride the trends he picked up when he took office?
    Slashed regulations, unshackled the energy industry, made it harder to hire cheap illegal labour, pushed to reform the tax code all of which has boosted economic confidence, investment and hiring. It’s pretty simple actually. Not sure why the AMT just doesn’t understand economics 101.
    Your wrong (again). Econ 101 is supply and demand. 

    None of those are supply or demand. 

    Not an economist, but I played one in college. 
    Energy supply? Labour Supply? Did you really play one in college? There’s no way that you did.


    Go on.....enlighten me....
    Enlighten you on supply and demand?

    1) Unshackle energy companies - they hire workers that in turn produce energy - which results in increase supply - which reduces prices - which reduced costs to businesses and citizens - which puts more money in their pocket - which is used to invest or spend.
    2) Remove illegal labour - which increases demand for legal labour - which drives up wages - which puts more money in employees pockets - which is used to invest or spend.

    Is this really foreign to you? Either admit you didn’t take Econ 101 or admit you just weren’t paying attention in class.
    1. Energy prices haven’t gone down.
    2. Wages haven’t gone up.

    Delusion

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    edited December 2017
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
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  • BS44325
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    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
  • CM189191
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    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    So which is it? Was the world headed for disaster or is the world headed for disaster? Don’t let your Orwellian double speak cover all your bases, professor.
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    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
  • BS44325
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    So which is it? Was the world headed for disaster or is the world headed for disaster? Don’t let your Orwellian double speak cover all your bases, professor.
    Was and is. As I have stated time and again...Trump is a hail mary pass. I am satisfied with his decisions to date in the face of this disaster but I think the chance of his success is low. The west’s will to succeed seems to be too far gone.
  • josevolution
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    BS44325 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    So which is it? Was the world headed for disaster or is the world headed for disaster? Don’t let your Orwellian double speak cover all your bases, professor.
    Was and is. As I have stated time and again...Trump is a hail mary pass. I am satisfied with his decisions to date in the face of this disaster but I think the chance of his success is low. The west’s will to succeed seems to be too far gone.
    Really so you stand with a sexual predator that endorsed a child molester, I see you like your politicians to be classy ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    So which is it? Was the world headed for disaster or is the world headed for disaster? Don’t let your Orwellian double speak cover all your bases, professor.
    Was and is. As I have stated time and again...Trump is a hail mary pass. I am satisfied with his decisions to date in the face of this disaster but I think the chance of his success is low. The west’s will to succeed seems to be too far gone.
    That’s hilarious. By what measure was or is the world headed for disaster?
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    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
    And you and others were suckers to believe him.

    Also, these elites you speak of......Trump is not an elite? Has he not surrounded himself with elites? I think it's just you have a problem with the lefts kind of elites as opposed to the rights elites. Lets at least be honest.
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