2017 Pearl Jam Complete Vinyl Box Set

pdalowsky said:

MedozK said:

pdalowsky said:

The huge majority of people who received this product are thrilled with it. So why the problem?

What would be neat is for you to start a 'Positive Only' thread dedicated to the majority of the buyers thrilled about this package. I would love to read their thoughts about the package. Might even change my mind about it.

LOL, im sure a positive only thread would work wonders 

I dunno dude, i have read your comments and believe you are mostly underwhelmed by the sound, which isnt really an issue related to the boxset, more the whole reissue generally? If I felt that strongly about the quality of the pressings, I would probably take them up on the refund that was offered.

MedozK said:

pdalowsky said:

MedozK said:

pdalowsky said:

MedozK said:

pdalowsky said:

The huge majority of people who received this product are thrilled with it. So why the problem?

What would be neat is for you to start a 'Positive Only' thread dedicated to the majority of the buyers thrilled about this package. I would love to read their thoughts about the package. Might even change my mind about it.

LOL, im sure a positive only thread would work wonders 

I dunno dude, i have read your comments and believe you are mostly underwhelmed by the sound, which isnt really an issue related to the boxset, more the whole reissue generally? If I felt that strongly about the quality of the pressings, I would probably take them up on the refund that was offered.

Well..dude..lol

Collectors collect, listeners listen.. its all cool I guess.

My thoughts of what I have read from you and comments... is that your a merch guy. You collect. You want to have anything and everything with there name on it. One of those high dollar collectors who I feel sees the whole collection as an investment... which is cool I guess. Make sure you will it to someone who cares, or sell it all a few years before you die so you can give the money to loved ones.

Enjoy what you enjoy, but try and not be so condescending to others with opinions, because that makes you come across as an elitist.

Not so much an investment - just something I enjoy. I generally only collect things that appeal to me, and make me happy. I dont see them as valuables as I dont see myself selling them. In a few years if PJ market collapses, thats fine. I think we've all seen how the market bubbles constantly and falls back depending on the current trend of popularity. Thats all good. 

I understand there are audiophiles amoungst us, and I totally respect that and even admire it. If there are issues with the audio mix on these, that is disappointing to folk like you, but given Im generally content with an MP3 I'm the last person who could possibly judge the quality of the press, or be unduly concerned by it from a personal viewpoint. 

The objection to the moaning though was not based on the quality of the audio as this affects the product across the board and is not exclusive to this boxset which was the whole point of the thread and the gripes. and the fact the 10c sold what was described. 

condescending? Oh come on......where on earth have i been condescending ?

There have been passive agressive comments such as 'Again, for a paper weight it's great. I'm sure they will look nice on the shelf'. I really couldnt care less though, perhaps that is what they will become, but you know - a lot of my stuff does. Im at peace with that, and its not too dissimilar to the art collector placing art in portfolios in the dark. Each to their own. 

Understood, totally understand your view. Now..... here is to hoping we can get that Christmas single...lol

pdalowsky said:

PJ_Soul said:

Err, yeah, the sound quality of the reissues that I've heard is pretty bad, and I've read reviews from others about the ones I haven't heard - they say the sound quality isn't so hot on those. Seriously, I have no clue why this comment bothers you. Look, some people require things to be all positive all the time, and some people have no problems with the negative. It's not because they are miserable, negative people. It's just because confronting negative things doesn't get to them. It's just fine to have whatever thoughts come to them, positive or negative, and express the thoughts honestly. All I'm saying is that I would have loooooooved for PJ to create a really amazing catalogue boxset, and to have paid real attention to sound quality for the release, and brought it to the mass market. That would have been awesome. I hope this box of reissues doesn't mean they will never bring a really good, high quality, special edition boxset to the market.

I do agree that to complain about the actual item not having features that weren't mentioned in the description, like having a stamp or whatever, don't make sense. Those kinds of things obviously would have been mentioned in the description. Expecting something extra, above and beyond the item description, seems pretty silly. But to have some sealed and some unsealed albums in the same box is different. I find that odd. I did not say that these boxes "should have been stamped" exactly. I was saying that the entire thing should have been done better. What I'm mourning is that their first catalogue boxset isn't way better in just about every way, and that it isn't a really big deal with specially produced records inside it. I would have been very interested in a really awesome product - it would have been a huge deal in my collection. But I saw the item description and knew this release would not meet my expectations, and didn't buy it. I wish their standards were higher. That is my complaint as a fan. I think that is what the complaint is for everyone complaining. I can't help but compare this boxset to all the other, far superior boxsets that I have seen released. It is just too bad PJ isn't into it enough to do the same.

I dont require things to be positive when they are not. That would be foolish. What frustrates me is the amount of moaning about a product many people didnt even order, or apparently had no interest in for whatever reason. The huge majority of people who received this product are thrilled with it. So why the problem? You didnt want it? fine, dont buy it. Its such a simple concept. If you have feedback you want the band to hear i find it laughable you think they'll be tuned into this thread pouring over every word and taking notes for next time. Frankly i am sure they have better things to do. This product sold out within 2 hours of being listed. They must be devestated

Why they limited it to 500 is anyone guess and not really relevant for the reasons of my posts on my frustration which you seem to be unable to comprehend. The sevens set was similar, it was in huge demand. We have an artist that a collectible item is not foreign to. They know the market, possibly even play that market, but it works and has worked for a long time. As soon as you make a product unlimited you can take away its collectable nature. Not always the case i would hasten to add but it is true on occasion. A concept that is also not alien to the music world. 

What you would love for them to have created and what they did create are very different things. We are talking about an item that was created, pictured, described and sold, to buyers who were happy to pay. The backlash to it is just insane. You may feel they should have done it better, but they never intimated they would. That is the issue here, and that is what I was referencing in my comments throughout the thread. The complaining about an item that people hoped was going to be special when it was never going sold that way, complaining about the box not being sealed, complaining about numbering, complaining about the records included, pretty much complaining about anything and generally speaking the complaints where from people who didnt even order it....which is just completely absurd. 

As I said, there are people on this forum whom will never be happy, I think the Tenclub have gotten over that with time. Moaning can become a habit, and a need it seems. I prefer to be a little more embracing in my approach - this is a hobby to me, this is something i find fun and exciting, and something i get a great deal of pleasure. If that wasnt the case, you know? I very much doubt i would open the page. 

AndySlash said:

so who's putting this baby in discogs? not an enviable task.

I nominate Mendozk

he has his shit together.

now I want to track down those re-pressings of the VS and Vitalogy reissues.