Re: LP Box Set Numbering

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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I'm reading it as of the 500 sold and shipped to customers, you may receive a number higher than 500.  And if you do, that's why.  Not that all 600 were sold to customers.
    This is exactly how I read this statement. Just like how they made more than 2000 Benaroya sets, it's very common. They were accidently numbered and mixed rather than being kept separate. The explanation was as clear as it needed to be IMO.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited November 2017
    I think I saw someone post a photo of theirs and it was actually more than 500 out of 500. So, say, 525/500. Can't remember if the person posted here on the boards or on facebook.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,076
    I have a number > 500 for mine as well.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    drummerboy_73 said:
    It's a box.
    And a number.
    It means nothing.
    It's the music inside that's important - unless your intent was to flip it from the get go.

  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,628
    Sarava said:
    Mistakes happen. They apologized. This isn't a big deal.
    You forget what kind of place this is.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    kramer73 said:
    Sarava said:
    Mistakes happen. They apologized. This isn't a big deal.
    You forget what kind of place this is.
    At least no one is trying to drum up a class-action lawsuit. 











    Yet. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited November 2017
    drummerboy_73 said:
    It's a box.
    And a number.
    It means nothing.
    It's the music inside that's important - unless your intent was to flip it from the get go.
    I don't even see why it would affect the flippers. Why would it affect the price? Has anyone expressed discontent about this? What difference does it make? Will collectors actually say "oh no thanks, the number is higher than 500."? Will the over-500 boxes actually have a lower dollar value in the secondary market??
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,012
    If it was a poster or limited edition vinyl (not box but vinyl itself) I would be more upset.  I got one of these boxes and I don't really care that they ran an additional 100.  I never bought this as an item I expected to be valuable or highly collectible, never really got the vibe that it would be that kind of thing.  I don't really think a refund is warranted here.
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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    PJ_Soul said:
    drummerboy_73 said:
    It's a box.
    And a number.
    It means nothing.
    It's the music inside that's important - unless your intent was to flip it from the get go.
    I don't even see why it would affect the flippers. Why would it affect the price? Has anyone expressed discontent about this? What difference does it make? Will collectors actually say "oh no thanks, the number is higher than 500."? Will the over-500 boxes actually have a lower dollar value in the secondary market??
    I'm sure someone will get creative with it...

    "You're bidding on one of the SUPER ULTRA RARE #500+ MIS-NUMBERED VARIANT LIMITED EDITION BOX SETS!!! LESS THAN 100 WENT TO MARKET!!!!!!!"
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  • Patrick_Sea3
    Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 933
    Certainly not as bad as the Death Cab for Cutie Box set fiasco.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,871
    drummerboy_73 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    drummerboy_73 said:
    It's a box.
    And a number.
    It means nothing.
    It's the music inside that's important - unless your intent was to flip it from the get go.
    I don't even see why it would affect the flippers. Why would it affect the price? Has anyone expressed discontent about this? What difference does it make? Will collectors actually say "oh no thanks, the number is higher than 500."? Will the over-500 boxes actually have a lower dollar value in the secondary market??
    I'm sure someone will get creative with it...

    "You're bidding on one of the SUPER ULTRA RARE #500+ MIS-NUMBERED VARIANT LIMITED EDITION BOX SETS!!! LESS THAN 100 WENT TO MARKET!!!!!!!"
    This will definitely happen. They will become "must have" numbers. :|


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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,244
    FWIW, here's my 7" live Unthought Known from Australia...

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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,669
    edited November 2017
    Ten Club should ask for the COA papers numbered 500-599 be returned and exchanged for a COA paper numbered 1-500. Then have the band sign the exchanged 100 for those “unlucky ones” when sent back. :)
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    patrickwieczore said:
    Certainly not as bad as the Death Cab for Cutie Box set fiasco.
    Or the NIN halo I-IV shitshow, which Concord Bicycle used as an opportunity to dump the widely known defective, unplayable pressings of Pretty Hate Machine onto fans during the hype of RSD. 

    Shitty business. Its 25th anniversary Out of Time release was awful as well. I immediately returned mine and bought the EU pressing, which was much better. 
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  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Thanks for the info Santos.  It’s all good.  Who gives a dam about the numbering issue.  Seems like an honest mistake that is not detrimental to anyone with no overt greed intent.  Keep bringing us vinyl (or vinyls to piss off PJSoul :lol: )
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    MedozK said:
    PJNB said:
    I read this as 1-500 were supposed to be sales on here. 501-600 were supposed to be kept back for the band but somehow got sold as well and were shipped out. 
    Yea, maybe. So 600 were sold? They didn't keep any back for label and band use? What numbers are they auctioning off?
    Still 500 sold. 100 saved for the band. But all 600 numbered.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    edited November 2017
    Still weird saying 500 will be sold as it will obviously read as "500 made/produced", but then keep 100 on top of that (20% extra).

    Sounds fishy and dishonest. 

    Why not say that 600 are produced, but still only sell 500 to the public. or produce 500 if you want a nice round number, but only sell 400. 
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    Sarava said:
    Mistakes happen. They apologized. This isn't a big deal.
    Bingo, I could write a long comment which is epitomized in 9 words here. 

    Everyone who got this set I would hope are delighted with what they received and not going to worry about the existence of a few more sets having been made, in all reality it just doesnt matter. Its nice to read the explanation and for it to be officially addressed, but I know for one im not remotely concerned and am thrilled to have this item on the way to me
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    This was not advertised as a 1 out 500. People bought this either not knowing about the COA or going off a small picture that was on the item page. Once it was sold out it was officially disclosed as a 1 out of 500. While it is weird as to how this all happened and odd that numbers above 500 are being distributed does it really change things from the point that you made the purchase? 
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    pdalowsky said:
    Sarava said:
    Mistakes happen. They apologized. This isn't a big deal.
    Bingo, I could write a long comment which is epitomized in 9 words here. 

    Everyone who got this set I would hope are delighted with what they received and not going to worry about the existence of a few more sets having been made, in all reality it just doesnt matter. Its nice to read the explanation and for it to be officially addressed, but I know for one im not remotely concerned and am thrilled to have this item on the way to me
    You are the exception Paul. A relaxed, reasonable collector. Ironically though, it is the collector contingent out there that drives all the angst on getting something limited (for all the reasons people want limited ed. stuff).
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