Hurricane Maria/Crisis in Puerto Rico

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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    Nothing to see here, White House says everything is great in Puerto Rico.

    Dead animals in Puerto Rico water, mayor says

    AT THIS HOUR

    San Juan Mayor Carmen Cruz asks the international community for drinking water, stressing that the water supply in Puerto Rico has been contaminated by dead animals. 

  • F Me In The Brain
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    Just donated again.  This is fucked...have to wonder if the donations are making an impact on getting items on docks to people in need.  All of this fake news is misleading us!
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  • EdsonNascimento
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    Money over stuff.  Money can buy the right stuff at the right time.

    People/companies have delivered bins full of stuff to docks with no plan on how to distribute. FEMA is only equipped to plan what they are doing. Not what others are doing.

    As one local doctor said - send money even though sending stuff makes you feel better.

    There are a number of logistical issues that saying - why can't they do this? why can't the do that?  - is foolish.  Things can always be done better, but the infrastructure was decaying before this, so the devastation is beyond your wildest imagination.  Getting up into the mountains (yes, there are mountains right in the middle) is near impossible.  Yesterday, they had a "normal" rainstorm, and the whole Island flooded (As it would have normally done in that instance, but now exacerbated by the destruction).  People trying to get to work took 2-3 hours to make 15 minute trips. 

    Only send stuff if you have a plan to distribute it yourself.  Otherwise, send money to a reputable place and trust that it will be used appropriately.  If you send stuff or run down there yourself without a plan, all you are doing is stressing the situation and the precious, limited resources trying to make their way to the people in need.

    If you need a place that will direct all funds to Puerto Rico, please let me know. I can recommend something for you to research (As you shouldn't take someone on a Pearl Jam message board's word either). 

    Thank you for all your concern. I'm not sure some people realized Puerto Ricans are US citizens before this happened.  This is a long road back for our friends, family and colleagues in Puerto Rico, and we can all help by supporting the people on the ground trying to make things better.

    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    What's pathetic is how Puerto Rico has faded from public view so we can focus on Harvey Weinstein, NFL flag policies and Trump's IQ. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626
    EdsonNascimento said:

    Money over stuff.  Money can buy the right stuff at the right time.

    People/companies have delivered bins full of stuff to docks with no plan on how to distribute. FEMA is only equipped to plan what they are doing. Not what others are doing.

    As one local doctor said - send money even though sending stuff makes you feel better.

    There are a number of logistical issues that saying - why can't they do this? why can't the do that?  - is foolish.  Things can always be done better, but the infrastructure was decaying before this, so the devastation is beyond your wildest imagination.  Getting up into the mountains (yes, there are mountains right in the middle) is near impossible.  Yesterday, they had a "normal" rainstorm, and the whole Island flooded (As it would have normally done in that instance, but now exacerbated by the destruction).  People trying to get to work took 2-3 hours to make 15 minute trips. 

    Only send stuff if you have a plan to distribute it yourself.  Otherwise, send money to a reputable place and trust that it will be used appropriately.  If you send stuff or run down there yourself without a plan, all you are doing is stressing the situation and the precious, limited resources trying to make their way to the people in need.

    If you need a place that will direct all funds to Puerto Rico, please let me know. I can recommend something for you to research (As you shouldn't take someone on a Pearl Jam message board's word either). 

    Thank you for all your concern. I'm not sure some people realized Puerto Ricans are US citizens before this happened.  This is a long road back for our friends, family and colleagues in Puerto Rico, and we can all help by supporting the people on the ground trying to make things better.

    Yes good advice 
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Always send money not goods......

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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Where are you, FMC?  You seriously suck.,.....
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Where are you?
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  • brianlux
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    This goes back a few weeks but at least partly illustrates why things are going badly in Puerto Rico:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/?utm_term=.dfd94b5bdafb

    "Twice on Tuesday, President Trump offered an excuse for why government aid to Puerto Rico has been slow to arrive after Hurricane Maria: Puerto Rico is an island.

    “It’s very tough, because it’s an island,” Trump said during a meeting with members of the House. “In Texas, we can ship the trucks right out there. And you know, we’ve gotten A-pluses on Texas and on Florida, and we will also on Puerto Rico. But the difference is, this is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. And it’s a big ocean; it’s a very big ocean. And we’re doing a really good job.”


    For cryin' out loud, Donald, it's THE CARIBBEAN, not the Pacific Ocean!



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  • stuckinline
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    Agreed Brian. I am speechless.

    (CNN)Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Maria pummeled Puerto Rico, the vast majority of the island remains without power and the death toll from the storm has risen to 45, authorities said.

    At least 113 people remain unaccounted for, according to Karixia Ortiz, a spokeswoman for Puerto Rico's Department of Public Safety.
    The recovery has moved slowly since Maria struck the US territory on September 20, leaving most of the island without basic services such as power and running water, according to residents, relief workers and local elected officials. 
      Acting US Department of Homeland Security Elaine Duke will make her second trip to the island on Thursday, DHS spokesman David Lapan said Wednesday. 
      The visit comes as hospitals throughout the cash-strapped island of 3.4 million people have been running low on medicine and fuel. Some residents and local elected officials have said they expect the death toll to rise.

      In the town of Caguas, in the central mountain range, some patients -- including one breathing with the aid of a ventilator -- had to be evacuated to the Navy hospital ship USNS Comfort near San Juan after a generator failed, Dr. Christian Rodriguez said this week. 

      At least two people have died from leptospirosis, which spreads when the urine of infected animals gets into drinking water, San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz told CNN Wednesday. People have been drinking water from creeks contaminated by dead animals, she said. 
      "We're not out of the woods yet," she said. "We are now starting to see a lot of health issues. ... So we are in a great effort, a great humanitarian effort."
    • F Me In The Brain
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      #FMC
      Support PR. 

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      F Me In The Brain said:
      #FMC
      Support PR. 

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    • stuckinline
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      edited October 2017
      Back to thread topic:

      President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

      In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

      “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

      Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

    • oftenreading
      oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
      stuckinline said:
      Back to thread topic:

      President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

      In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

      “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

      Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.


      While in other news, when referencing Texas (you know, those "real" Americans - i.e., ones that can vote), Carson has said  “We’re in this for the long run. We know that once the water recedes, that’s when our work really begins and we're going to be at it until we finish the job.”

      And apparently FEMA ran programs after Katrina for seven years.  Seven years. But Trump is bored of Puerto Rico after a few weeks.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/29/fema-emergency-housing-hurricane-harvey-refugees/612455001/

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    • Halifax2TheMax
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      oftenreading said:
      stuckinline said:
      Back to thread topic:

      President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

      In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

      “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

      Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.


      While in other news, when referencing Texas (you know, those "real" Americans - i.e., ones that can vote), Carson has said  “We’re in this for the long run. We know that once the water recedes, that’s when our work really begins and we're going to be at it until we finish the job.”

      And apparently FEMA ran programs after Katrina for seven years.  Seven years. But Trump is bored of Puerto Rico after a few weeks.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/29/fema-emergency-housing-hurricane-harvey-refugees/612455001/

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    • Bentleyspop
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      Support Puerto Rico by making monetary donations.
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    • curmudgeoness
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      stuckinline said:
      Back to thread topic:

      President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

      In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

      “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

      Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

      .... and I woke up angry this morning. Again.
      I've run out of words to describe someone who is willing to play games with millions of lives. I've made donations. I called my senators this morning, again, and told them to stop the fundraising emails and do something already. I wish I could do more.
      If our federal government doesn't help people -- citizens -- in situations like this, why, exactly, do we even have a federal government? These statements are callous, ignorant, and cruel.
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    • Halifax2TheMax
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      curmudgeoness said:
      stuckinline said:
      Back to thread topic:

      President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

      In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

      “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

      Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

      .... and I woke up angry this morning. Again.
      I've run out of words to describe someone who is willing to play games with millions of lives. I've made donations. I called my senators this morning, again, and told them to stop the fundraising emails and do something already. I wish I could do more.
      If our federal government doesn't help people -- citizens -- in situations like this, why, exactly, do we even have a federal government? These statements are callous, ignorant, and cruel.
      It's the alt-right playbook from the days of "starve the government to death" and tax cutting pledges. Except now you have a white supremacist as POTUS and certain posters reveling in the cruelty of it all.
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      I lived in the usvi for a while when I was younger while apprenticing under a chef at a resort and I always used to think about how the income gap was massive when compared to the states. Super sad to see such damage done to an area where the people have so little to begin with.  I used to shower out of a bucket when I lived there lol, and that wasn’t seen as the least bit odd.
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