Hurricane Maria/Crisis in Puerto Rico

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,376
    edited October 2017
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    President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

    In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

    “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Back to thread topic:

    President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

    In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

    “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.


    While in other news, when referencing Texas (you know, those "real" Americans - i.e., ones that can vote), Carson has said  “We’re in this for the long run. We know that once the water recedes, that’s when our work really begins and we're going to be at it until we finish the job.”

    And apparently FEMA ran programs after Katrina for seven years.  Seven years. But Trump is bored of Puerto Rico after a few weeks.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/29/fema-emergency-housing-hurricane-harvey-refugees/612455001/

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  • Back to thread topic:

    President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

    In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

    “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.


    While in other news, when referencing Texas (you know, those "real" Americans - i.e., ones that can vote), Carson has said  “We’re in this for the long run. We know that once the water recedes, that’s when our work really begins and we're going to be at it until we finish the job.”

    And apparently FEMA ran programs after Katrina for seven years.  Seven years. But Trump is bored of Puerto Rico after a few weeks.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/29/fema-emergency-housing-hurricane-harvey-refugees/612455001/

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    Support Puerto Rico by making monetary donations.
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    Back to thread topic:

    President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

    In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

    “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

    .... and I woke up angry this morning. Again.
    I've run out of words to describe someone who is willing to play games with millions of lives. I've made donations. I called my senators this morning, again, and told them to stop the fundraising emails and do something already. I wish I could do more.
    If our federal government doesn't help people -- citizens -- in situations like this, why, exactly, do we even have a federal government? These statements are callous, ignorant, and cruel.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Back to thread topic:

    President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to withdraw federal aid from Puerto Rico as the U.S. territory continues struggling to recover from back-to-back hurricanes.

    In a series of tweets, Trump quoted conservative journalist and frequent Fox News guest Sharyl Attkison blaming Puerto Rico for its festering financial crisis and suggested Federal Emergency Management Agency aid could soon end.

    “Congress to decide how much to spend,” Trump tweeted. “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    Puerto Rican officials have pleaded with the government for more help after the island was pounded by major hurricanes Irma and Maria last month. The San Juan mayor, among others, has harshly criticized the Trump administration response.

    .... and I woke up angry this morning. Again.
    I've run out of words to describe someone who is willing to play games with millions of lives. I've made donations. I called my senators this morning, again, and told them to stop the fundraising emails and do something already. I wish I could do more.
    If our federal government doesn't help people -- citizens -- in situations like this, why, exactly, do we even have a federal government? These statements are callous, ignorant, and cruel.
    It's the alt-right playbook from the days of "starve the government to death" and tax cutting pledges. Except now you have a white supremacist as POTUS and certain posters reveling in the cruelty of it all.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,175
    I lived in the usvi for a while when I was younger while apprenticing under a chef at a resort and I always used to think about how the income gap was massive when compared to the states. Super sad to see such damage done to an area where the people have so little to begin with.  I used to shower out of a bucket when I lived there lol, and that wasn’t seen as the least bit odd.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    Trump Threatens To Yank FEMA Responders From Hurricane-Ravaged Puerto Rico
    The president took another swipe at the island for its pre-hurricane financial crisis.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-puerto-rico-fema_us_59df4de8e4b00abf36469922?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
    ............................
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  • EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Thank you, Kat.  

    This is where I donated.  https://hispanicfederation.org/unidos/#content

    Also you can follow David Begnaud @DavidBegnaud on Twitter - he's a CBS reporter who's been in Puerto Rico and reporting on what's really happening there.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,924
    Damn he really wants them to keep suffering, what a guy !
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
    Sorry to the good people of 10C that I caused the thread to get locked for a while...this is important.  (Far more important than my having a tantrum due to being fed up of someone else's attitude.)

    We should send @Chadwick to PR.  He would get things sorted out, quickly!
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
    Saw that if you donate through the Wal Mart PR relief fund that they match it 2 to 1.
    Nice.  
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  • Enkidu said:
    Thank you, Kat.  

    This is where I donated.  https://hispanicfederation.org/unidos/#content

    Also you can follow David Begnaud @DavidBegnaud on Twitter - he's a CBS reporter who's been in Puerto Rico and reporting on what's really happening there.  
    I need to donate and don't really want to do Red cross.  @Enkidu is this a good one to give to?

    Thanks everyone.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
    Dont want to do the Wal Mart one where the double what you give?

    You give 33, they give 66. 
    https://give.miamifoundation.org/Walmart

    Even if they are heavy on administrative costs you still have to see every dollar you give going through if they are doubling it.
    (Up to $1MM, dont know how long they have been running it, would be good for them to tell when they hit it)

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  • Enkidu said:
    Thank you, Kat.  

    This is where I donated.  https://hispanicfederation.org/unidos/#content

    Also you can follow David Begnaud @DavidBegnaud on Twitter - he's a CBS reporter who's been in Puerto Rico and reporting on what's really happening there.  
    You can follow David Begnaud on facebook as well, if you do such things. His reports are the best I've seen.
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  • The numbers keep rising. 69 hospital morgues filled to capacity. There are a reported 5 deaths from leptospirosis which comes from drinking untreated water. The disease can be treated with antibiotics, if they could get them. We've not heard the last of this.

    "Gov. Ricardo Rosselló of Puerto Rico puts the number of hurricane-related deaths at 45.

    But our research puts that number at a minimum of 81, not including 69 missing persons and another 450 bodies where a cause of death has not yet been determined. Here's how that's possible"

    http://https//www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/10/11/16424356/puerto-rico-official-hurricane-maria-death-toll


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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,300
    My wife and her business partner asked me to research agencies giving relief to Puerto Rico.  I found several that are doing fine work including some mentioned here already.  I went to Charity Navigator (which I've found very useful in the past as well) here:

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=5356&order=charity

    Looking more closely at these agencies and reading the Charity Navigator blog as well as some other discussions elsewhere, I suggested sending money to Direct Relief's Hurricane Maria Response.  They have 100% rating on Charity Navigator which I don't believe I've ever seen for any other agency.  They can be found here:

    https://www.directrelief.org/emergency/hurricane-maria-response/


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  • brianlux said:
    My wife and her business partner asked me to research agencies giving relief to Puerto Rico.  I found several that are doing fine work including some mentioned here already.  I went to Charity Navigator (which I've found very useful in the past as well) here:

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=5356&order=charity

    Looking more closely at these agencies and reading the Charity Navigator blog as well as some other discussions elsewhere, I suggested sending money to Direct Relief's Hurricane Maria Response.  They have 100% rating on Charity Navigator which I don't believe I've ever seen for any other agency.  They can be found here:

    https://www.directrelief.org/emergency/hurricane-maria-response/


    Thanks Brian
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    US Virgin Islands, also American citizens, also suffering:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/opinion/america-forgotten-virgin-islands.html
     

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    Enkidu said:
    Thank you, Kat.  

    This is where I donated.  https://hispanicfederation.org/unidos/#content

    Also you can follow David Begnaud @DavidBegnaud on Twitter - he's a CBS reporter who's been in Puerto Rico and reporting on what's really happening there.  
    You can follow David Begnaud on facebook as well, if you do such things. His reports are the best I've seen.
    I made a donation there, and to Oxfam, and to World Central Kitchen (Chef Andres et al., cranking out  nearly 100,000 meals per day in PR). But it would be ... nice ... if our government showed a greater sense of urgency.
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,376

    WASHINGTON (CNN)President Donald Trump's approval rating for handling the federal government's response to recent hurricanes has dropped 20 points in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. 

    In mid-September, 64% of Americans said they approved of Trump's handling of the US hurricane response. That finding followed his administration's handling of hurricanes Harvey and Irma, which hit the US mainland in late-August and September. Now, as many Puerto Ricans remain without access to clean water or electricity nearly a month after Maria hit, just 44% say they approve.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
    edited October 2017
    Only 44% of people don't know how to read properly....
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    About 1 million Americans without running water. 3 million without power. This is life one month after Hurricane Maria.

  • About 1 million Americans without running water. 3 million without power. This is life one month after Hurricane Maria.

    The Trump Administration’s brilliant brilliance brilliantly on display. Has anyone woken Rick Perry and reminded him that generating and delivering energy to those that need it is a core responsibility of the DOE, of which he is currently the head? Anyone? Hello, Rick? Rick? You there Rick? Rick? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiickeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Yo Rick!
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  • About 1 million Americans without running water. 3 million without power. This is life one month after Hurricane Maria.

    This is disgusting.

    Does anyone have any contact with family down there?  Is there any progress being made?  I do understand that a catastrophic event has happened but it's not Haiti.
  • gotjamgotjam Posts: 34
    I'm puertorrican, currently living on the island. The numbers are true, mainly due to a very old and weak power infrastructure. The hurricane basically steamrolled the island from corner to corner. News outlet, specifically local, can be very misleading, with hard questions to current procedures and relief efforts from US being demanded more from international community. A good read was posted on the Miami Herald: http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article179744081.html

    Someone summarized it very well for me a couple days ago:

    What's worst than being hit bit a Cat-5 hurricane? Well, being hit by a Cat-5 hurricane in a colony, under the Trump presidency and in a regime of extreme austerity led by Wall Street and Congress. Cyclones are natural but disasters are political.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,376

    A small Montana company located in Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke's hometown has signed a $300 million contract to help get the power back on in Puerto Rico, The Washington Post reported.

    Whitefish Energy had only two full-time employees on the day Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, according to the Post. The company signed the contract — the largest yet issued to help restore Puerto Rico — with the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA) to fix the island's electrical infrastructure.

    The company now has 280 workers on the island, the Post reported, a majority of whom are subcontractors.

    A former senior official at the Energy Department and state regulatory agencies said it was "odd" that Whitefish Energy would be chosen.

    “The fact that there are so many utilities with experience in this and a huge track record of helping each other out, it is at least odd why [the utility] would go to Whitefish,” Susan Tierney said.

    “I’m scratching my head wondering how it all adds up.”

    Whitefish Energy happened to be the first firm "available to arrive and they were the ones that first accepted terms and conditions for PREPA," Ricardo Ramos, the executive director of PREPA, told reporters.

    “The doubts that have been raised about Whitefish, from my point of view, are completely unfounded,” he added.

    Whitefish Energy spokesman Chris Chiames told the newspaper that the company is taking "personal risks and business risks working in perilous physical and financial conditions.”

    “So the carping by others is unfounded, and we stand by our work and our commitment to the people of Puerto Rico," he said.

    Zinke's office said in an email to the Post that Zinke and Whitefish Energy's chief executive know each other.

    "Everybody knows everybody" in the town, Zinke's office said, adding that Zinke wasn't involved in the contract.


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