brianlux
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Reading some of the latest news on Puerto Rico, several questions come to mind. Many or most of the residents in Puerto Rico will be out of power for months. Most of the gas stations are down. Puerto Rico hugely suburban. How will the people there live, get by? Where will all the money come from that's needed to rebuild when Houston and many other parts of the Gulf region are a wreck?
Speaking of, what's going on in places like Houston? Irma and Harvey have only been gone for a matter of weeks and yet how much do we hear about the havoc left in their wake. What has happened to the people who lost everything there?
And where is this all going to take us when the US debt is already sky high? Is this the beginning of what James Howard Kunstler refers to as "The Long Emergency"?
I'd say this is a good time for all of us to learn to live a more simple life. Learn some good basic skills. Live closer to work. And have a good circle of friends. Life is getting interesting.
Many people can't image living without power for six days yet alone six months.
The former Presidents are taking action:
Former Presidents expand hurricane relief efforts to Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands
"One America Appeal," the hurricane relief effort established by all five living former US Presidents -- Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama -- will now include aid for Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, which were hit by Hurricane Maria.
The fund was established to aid relief efforts in Texas after Hurricane Irma, and was later expanded to include Hurricane Irma recovery efforts in Florida.
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Many people can't image living without power for six days yet alone six months.
The former Presidents are taking action:
Former Presidents expand hurricane relief efforts to Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands
"One America Appeal," the hurricane relief effort established by all five living former US Presidents -- Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama -- will now include aid for Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, which were hit by Hurricane Maria.
The fund was established to aid relief efforts in Texas after Hurricane Irma, and was later expanded to include Hurricane Irma recovery efforts in Florida.
Meanwhile, the current president Tweets about football. Man....
(CNN)Rapper Pitbull sent his private plane to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico to transport cancer patients to the mainland US for chemotherapy treatments.
Hurricane Maria left Puerto Rico in ruins, with mass power outages and almost half the residents without drinking water. Of the island's 69 hospitals, only 11 had fuel and power on Tuesday.
The lack of electricity and fuel have yielded dire consequences.
The 36-year-old rapper hasn't been public about the part he's playing to ferry patients. When contacted by CNN, he said through a spokesman, "Thank God we're blessed to help. Just doing my part."
from what I've read about it this morning, supplies are plentiful, but it's the humans they need to deliver them. I saw a picture of a whole wack of storage containers full of supplies, with no truck drivers to deliver them.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
from what I've read about it this morning, supplies are plentiful, but it's the humans they need to deliver them. I saw a picture of a whole wack of storage containers full of supplies, with no truck drivers to deliver them.
How awful, to think that what they need is right there but can't be provided to them.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
from what I've read about it this morning, supplies are plentiful, but it's the humans they need to deliver them. I saw a picture of a whole wack of storage containers full of supplies, with no truck drivers to deliver them.
How awful, to think that what they need is right there but can't be provided to them.
from what I've read about it this morning, supplies are plentiful, but it's the humans they need to deliver them. I saw a picture of a whole wack of storage containers full of supplies, with no truck drivers to deliver them.
How awful, to think that what they need is right there but can't be provided to them.
from what I've read about it this morning, supplies are plentiful, but it's the humans they need to deliver them. I saw a picture of a whole wack of storage containers full of supplies, with no truck drivers to deliver them.
How awful, to think that what they need is right there but can't be provided to them.
Can the National Guard help distribute the supplies?
There are already some NG troops down there, but obviously not anywhere near enough. The US Army is also down there, apparently.... but it looks like the entire US military isn't powerful enough to bring aid to 3.5 million of its own citizens. I mean, they only have an annual budget of $825 billion. How are they supposed to pull off the near impossible job of distributing supplies to Americans suffering a humanitarian crisis with that??
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PAWS and Sea Shepherd Conservation Society stepping up to help in the Caribbean Islands post hurricanes:
San Juan Mayor Carmen Cruz asks the international community for drinking water, stressing that the water supply in Puerto Rico has been contaminated by dead animals.
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Just donated again. This is fucked...have to wonder if the donations are making an impact on getting items on docks to people in need. All of this fake news is misleading us!
Money over stuff. Money can buy the right stuff at the right time.
People/companies have delivered bins full of stuff to docks with no plan on how to distribute. FEMA is only equipped to plan what they are doing. Not what others are doing.
As one local doctor said - send money even though sending stuff makes you feel better.
There are a number of logistical issues that saying - why can't they do this? why can't the do that? - is foolish. Things can always be done better, but the infrastructure was decaying before this, so the devastation is beyond your wildest imagination. Getting up into the mountains (yes, there are mountains right in the middle) is near impossible. Yesterday, they had a "normal" rainstorm, and the whole Island flooded (As it would have normally done in that instance, but now exacerbated by the destruction). People trying to get to work took 2-3 hours to make 15 minute trips.
Only send stuff if you have a plan to distribute it yourself. Otherwise, send money to a reputable place and trust that it will be used appropriately. If you send stuff or run down there yourself without a plan, all you are doing is stressing the situation and the precious, limited resources trying to make their way to the people in need.
If you need a place that will direct all funds to Puerto Rico, please let me know. I can recommend something for you to research (As you shouldn't take someone on a Pearl Jam message board's word either).
Thank you for all your concern. I'm not sure some people realized Puerto Ricans are US citizens before this happened. This is a long road back for our friends, family and colleagues in Puerto Rico, and we can all help by supporting the people on the ground trying to make things better.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Money over stuff. Money can buy the right stuff at the right time.
People/companies have delivered bins full of stuff to docks with no plan on how to distribute. FEMA is only equipped to plan what they are doing. Not what others are doing.
As one local doctor said - send money even though sending stuff makes you feel better.
There are a number of logistical issues that saying - why can't they do this? why can't the do that? - is foolish. Things can always be done better, but the infrastructure was decaying before this, so the devastation is beyond your wildest imagination. Getting up into the mountains (yes, there are mountains right in the middle) is near impossible. Yesterday, they had a "normal" rainstorm, and the whole Island flooded (As it would have normally done in that instance, but now exacerbated by the destruction). People trying to get to work took 2-3 hours to make 15 minute trips.
Only send stuff if you have a plan to distribute it yourself. Otherwise, send money to a reputable place and trust that it will be used appropriately. If you send stuff or run down there yourself without a plan, all you are doing is stressing the situation and the precious, limited resources trying to make their way to the people in need.
If you need a place that will direct all funds to Puerto Rico, please let me know. I can recommend something for you to research (As you shouldn't take someone on a Pearl Jam message board's word either).
Thank you for all your concern. I'm not sure some people realized Puerto Ricans are US citizens before this happened. This is a long road back for our friends, family and colleagues in Puerto Rico, and we can all help by supporting the people on the ground trying to make things better.
"Twice on Tuesday, President Trump offered an excuse for why
government aid to Puerto Rico has been slow to arrive after Hurricane
Maria: Puerto Rico is an island.
“It’s very tough, because it’s
an island,” Trump said during a meeting with members of the House. “In
Texas, we can ship the trucks right out there. And you know, we’ve
gotten A-pluses on Texas and on Florida, and we will also on Puerto
Rico. But the difference is, this is an island sitting in the middle of
an ocean. And it’s a big ocean; it’s a very big ocean. And we’re doing a
really good job.”
For cryin' out loud, Donald, it's THE CARIBBEAN, not the Pacific Ocean!
(CNN)Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Maria pummeled Puerto Rico, the vast majority of the island remains without power and the death toll from the storm has risen to 45, authorities said.
At least 113 people remain unaccounted for, according to Karixia Ortiz, a spokeswoman for Puerto Rico's Department of Public Safety.
The recovery has moved slowly since Maria struck the US territory on September 20, leaving most of the island without basic services such as power and running water, according to residents, relief workers and local elected officials.
Acting US Department of Homeland Security Elaine Duke will make her second trip to the island on Thursday, DHS spokesman David Lapan said Wednesday.
The visit comes as hospitals throughout the cash-strapped island of 3.4 million people have been running low on medicine and fuel. Some residents and local elected officials have said they expect the death toll to rise.
In the town of Caguas, in the central mountain range, some patients -- including one breathing with the aid of a ventilator -- had to be evacuated to the Navy hospital ship USNS Comfort near San Juan after a generator failed, Dr. Christian Rodriguez said this week.
At least two people have died from leptospirosis, which spreads when the urine of infected animals gets into drinking water, San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz told CNN Wednesday. People have been drinking water from creeks contaminated by dead animals, she said.
"We're not out of the woods yet," she said. "We are now starting to see a lot of health issues. ... So we are in a great effort, a great humanitarian effort."
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/09/22/at-least-6-dead-in-puerto-rico-due-to-hurricane-maria-officials-say/
Speaking of, what's going on in places like Houston? Irma and Harvey have only been gone for a matter of weeks and yet how much do we hear about the havoc left in their wake. What has happened to the people who lost everything there?
And where is this all going to take us when the US debt is already sky high? Is this the beginning of what James Howard Kunstler refers to as "The Long Emergency"?
I'd say this is a good time for all of us to learn to live a more simple life. Learn some good basic skills. Live closer to work. And have a good circle of friends. Life is getting interesting.
The former Presidents are taking action:
Former Presidents expand hurricane relief efforts to Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands
"One America Appeal," the hurricane relief effort established by all five living former US Presidents -- Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama -- will now include aid for Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, which were hit by Hurricane Maria.
The fund was established to aid relief efforts in Texas after Hurricane Irma, and was later expanded to include Hurricane Irma recovery efforts in Florida.
(CNN)Rapper Pitbull sent his private plane to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico to transport cancer patients to the mainland US for chemotherapy treatments.
Anyone close to the matter have some ideas?
At this rate it will take 6 months or more to get to 100%.
Yup the white house is doing some good work
Dead animals in Puerto Rico water, mayor says
AT THIS HOUR
Money over stuff. Money can buy the right stuff at the right time.
People/companies have delivered bins full of stuff to docks with no plan on how to distribute. FEMA is only equipped to plan what they are doing. Not what others are doing.
As one local doctor said - send money even though sending stuff makes you feel better.
There are a number of logistical issues that saying - why can't they do this? why can't the do that? - is foolish. Things can always be done better, but the infrastructure was decaying before this, so the devastation is beyond your wildest imagination. Getting up into the mountains (yes, there are mountains right in the middle) is near impossible. Yesterday, they had a "normal" rainstorm, and the whole Island flooded (As it would have normally done in that instance, but now exacerbated by the destruction). People trying to get to work took 2-3 hours to make 15 minute trips.
Only send stuff if you have a plan to distribute it yourself. Otherwise, send money to a reputable place and trust that it will be used appropriately. If you send stuff or run down there yourself without a plan, all you are doing is stressing the situation and the precious, limited resources trying to make their way to the people in need.
If you need a place that will direct all funds to Puerto Rico, please let me know. I can recommend something for you to research (As you shouldn't take someone on a Pearl Jam message board's word either).
Thank you for all your concern. I'm not sure some people realized Puerto Ricans are US citizens before this happened. This is a long road back for our friends, family and colleagues in Puerto Rico, and we can all help by supporting the people on the ground trying to make things better.
Disaster Relief Donations That Don't Bring Relief
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/26/the-very-big-ocean-between-here-and-puerto-rico-is-not-a-perfect-excuse-for-a-lack-of-aid/?utm_term=.dfd94b5bdafb
"Twice on Tuesday, President Trump offered an excuse for why government aid to Puerto Rico has been slow to arrive after Hurricane Maria: Puerto Rico is an island.
“It’s very tough, because it’s an island,” Trump said during a meeting with members of the House. “In Texas, we can ship the trucks right out there. And you know, we’ve gotten A-pluses on Texas and on Florida, and we will also on Puerto Rico. But the difference is, this is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. And it’s a big ocean; it’s a very big ocean. And we’re doing a really good job.”
For cryin' out loud, Donald, it's THE CARIBBEAN, not the Pacific Ocean!
(CNN)Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Maria pummeled Puerto Rico, the vast majority of the island remains without power and the death toll from the storm has risen to 45, authorities said.