America's Gun Violence

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 

I'll remember your joy of sarcasm the next time a brown man sets off a bomb in a crowd. Who knows, maybe you'll know some of the deceased so the sarcasm will be all the more appreciated.

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

You guys are fucking idiots if you think making light of this issue is ok when there are still bodies waiting to be buried.
It's all a big joke to you, hehe haha hoho, I shoot my bang bang hehe.

Grow up and get a fucking life.

Positive post right here.  Constructive criticism too, well done.

The man does have a point though.

Again, no he doesn't. Also, I am wondering if you had any further thoughts on this which I posted last week. If we want to have some real discussion:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

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No.

I want to be able to own 17 guns and no one tell me what to do with them.

What's your middle ground? Where are you willing to meet those seeking more stringent ownership, policy or laws? So we ban bump stocks, big whoop, doesn't change every other gun related murder or mean that they still aren't available through different means. You want 17 guns, someone against guns thinks that's overkill and wants 1. You wouldn't be willing to meet at 10 or less?

No.  Reason being I am not a fan of the government telling me/you what we can and can't do.  

Also not a fan of taking any rights away.  Once they are gone it's nearly impossible to get them back.  For this instance I'm sure you'd be fine with that but I'm not.

Background checks?  Sure.

National registration?  No.

Gun training mandatory?  Sure.

Why no on the national registry? Are you concerned that the registry will some day be used to identify everyone who has guns and then they can take them because they know you have them? If that's the mindset, what does it matter if they know for sure? You'll either be using them to defend yourself if you think it's some sort of government coup or what, everyone who owns a gun will be targeted so agents on behalf of the government will be sent to seize their stockpile?

By the way, what does one do with 17 guns upon their death? Will them away? My dad probably has over 50 guns and a stockpile of ammo that I have no idea what I'm going to do with when he dies because I don't want them, but I also don't want them redistributed to people who may use them for harm. I get the gun culture to a degree because I grew up in it, but I don't because it seems paranoid for the excessive ownership.

You should probably melt them all down and throw all of the ammo in a lake...If you turn them into the police, they will auction them off.  Sorry that your father is such a paranoid gun  nut, that must be very difficult.

mcgruff10 said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 

I'll remember your joy of sarcasm the next time a brown man sets off a bomb in a crowd. Who knows, maybe you'll know some of the deceased so the sarcasm will be all the more appreciated.

Lighten up Francis. 

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 

I'll remember your joy of sarcasm the next time a brown man sets off a bomb in a crowd. Who knows, maybe you'll know some of the deceased so the sarcasm will be all the more appreciated.

Lighten up Francis. 

Yeah, lighten up!
It's just 60 people shot dead at a concert!  No reason not to make light of that with childish sarcasm.
Let's all make dead country music fan jokes!

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 

I'll remember your joy of sarcasm the next time a brown man sets off a bomb in a crowd. Who knows, maybe you'll know some of the deceased so the sarcasm will be all the more appreciated.

Lighten up Francis. 

Yeah, lighten up!
It's just 60 people shot dead at a concert!  No reason not to make light of that with childish sarcasm.
Let's all make dead country music fan jokes!

rgambs said:

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

brianlux said:

Exactly.  And some gun owners will say they don't use guns to kill (even though that is the purpose) like to target practice.  I can thank some of my neighbors who do that for driving my anxiety bat shit crazy up the wall on a bad day.  Not cool.  Besides why do they really target practice for?  Do they never think about how that might make them better at killing?  Hmmmm...

Target practice is important, especially for a hunter.  No need to make a wild animal suffer because you were irresponsible and did not zero your scope in accurately...

That assumes you can justify killing wild animals.  But we've already been over all that.  I stand by my words.  Guns are made for killing.

Even this gun?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flare_gun

You're a sick fuck. It's disgusting how you have chosen to respond. I don't always agree with your point, but I have at least though it is based in some sort of fact, but you have completely ruined your stance and credibility with this childish display today.

Save a life, ban a knife.  Fact, a flare gun is not used to kill people...

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 
Del, I am most disappointed with you. 

Not being able to recognize sarcasm is a sign of other underlying mental health issues.  If you do not understand sarcasm, then you most definitely should not own a knife.

Posts to be proud of for sure.  Trolling, mocking, and disrespecting the dead all at the same time!

Keeping it classy.

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Holy shit some of you need to learn today's vocabulary word: sarcasm. 

I'll remember your joy of sarcasm the next time a brown man sets off a bomb in a crowd. Who knows, maybe you'll know some of the deceased so the sarcasm will be all the more appreciated.

Lighten up Francis. 

Yeah, lighten up!
It's just 60 people shot dead at a concert!  No reason not to make light of that with childish sarcasm.
Let's all make dead country music fan jokes!

I must have missed the part where I made a joke about a mass shooting. That s something I d never do. 

Yeah, sure. 
Your sarcastic jokes aren't disrespectful at all.

Disrespectful?  I'm not sure how.  
PJpower (I assume) and I jumped on the anti-gun theory of if you make guns illegal the problem will go away.  So we correlated it the knife problem in England; if knives are such a problem and the poster is actually fearing for his/her children then they should be outright banned.  If knives are banned then no crime.    
Again, not seeing how being sarcastic about knives (and using the anti-gun rhetoric of if we can just save one life...) can be disrespectful to mass shootings or hoping when brown people blow themselves up I know someone who died.  

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

You guys are fucking idiots if you think making light of this issue is ok when there are still bodies waiting to be buried.
It's all a big joke to you, hehe haha hoho, I shoot my bang bang hehe.

Grow up and get a fucking life.

Positive post right here.  Constructive criticism too, well done.

The man does have a point though.

Again, no he doesn't. Also, I am wondering if you had any further thoughts on this which I posted last week. If we want to have some real discussion:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

» show previous quotes

No.

I want to be able to own 17 guns and no one tell me what to do with them.

What's your middle ground? Where are you willing to meet those seeking more stringent ownership, policy or laws? So we ban bump stocks, big whoop, doesn't change every other gun related murder or mean that they still aren't available through different means. You want 17 guns, someone against guns thinks that's overkill and wants 1. You wouldn't be willing to meet at 10 or less?

No.  Reason being I am not a fan of the government telling me/you what we can and can't do.  

Also not a fan of taking any rights away.  Once they are gone it's nearly impossible to get them back.  For this instance I'm sure you'd be fine with that but I'm not.

Background checks?  Sure.

National registration?  No.

Gun training mandatory?  Sure.

Why no on the national registry? Are you concerned that the registry will some day be used to identify everyone who has guns and then they can take them because they know you have them? If that's the mindset, what does it matter if they know for sure? You'll either be using them to defend yourself if you think it's some sort of government coup or what, everyone who owns a gun will be targeted so agents on behalf of the government will be sent to seize their stockpile?

By the way, what does one do with 17 guns upon their death? Will them away? My dad probably has over 50 guns and a stockpile of ammo that I have no idea what I'm going to do with when he dies because I don't want them, but I also don't want them redistributed to people who may use them for harm. I get the gun culture to a degree because I grew up in it, but I don't because it seems paranoid for the excessive ownership.

You should probably melt them all down and throw all of the ammo in a lake...If you turn them into the police, they will auction them off.  Sorry that your father is such a paranoid gun  nut, that must be very difficult.

Nice try....Maybe answer why so many are against the registry.

I think people fear that the data would be used in other ways.  People fear them not being able to pass their property down to their children, people fear a government lunatic using it to confiscate, and others have other reasons.  I also just think that a lot of people do not like further government encroachment.  Who knows when the leftist equivalent of a Donald Trump may get elected...