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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    Oh geez, GW comes off like Einstein if you compare him to Trump, lol. It's amazing what the comparing game has done for GW's rep, lol.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,014
    GW had a few "monkey" moments in his entire tenure. DT has them DAILY. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    I hated...HATED...W.  But it's getting harder to remember why.

    The bottom line (and I'm kinda stealing from someone earlier in this thread) is that any president I remember (back to Ronnie) at least cared about the Country and wanted to serve it well.  I  always banked on that as a given...what a nightmare.
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  • The Juggler
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    GW had a few "monkey" moments in his entire tenure. DT has them HOURLY. 
    fixed.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited October 2017
    Geez, now he's mocking Spanish.
    What an ass.
    "PUerto Rico.
    And Porto Rico too haha."

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    rgambs said:
    Geez, now he's mocking Spanish.
    What an ass.
    "PUerto Rico.
    And Porto Rico too haha."

    Toddler in Chief.
    He's confused as to why they speak Mexican there. "How will we build a wall in this big ocean?"  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    This national embarrassment is dangerous to the entire world.

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    I'm hoping it's limited to bailing on the Iraq nuke deal, but maybe he's just planning on a weekend full of berating others on twitter. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    ledvedderman said:
    dignin said:
    ledvedderman said:
    Go Beavers said:
    dignin said:
    Just as a reminder in case anyone forgot.

    TRUMP SAID ‘DESPICABLE’ RACIST COMMENTS ABOUT BLACKS, JEWS IN TAPED ‘APPRENTICE’ MEETINGS, CLAIMS FORMER PRODUCER



    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-racist-apprentice-tape-sexist-claims-producer-678944?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

    He'll never get elected now!
    Ha! No kidding. I don't think people understand that somehow these articles make him more popular with his base and don't cost him one single vote. 

    Well, there are Trump supporters on here so let's ask them.

    Hey Trump voters and supporters, if these videos see the light of day would that change your vote? 
    Don't confuse the two on this board as legitimate Trump supporters. One is bitter at Democrats and the other is just stirring the pot. I'd love a real supporter of Trump on here though that would offer authentic answers and not just talking points. 
    There are more than the two fake ones who frequent here to troll. They are just pretty quiet....and I can't say I blame them.
    Me neither... mainly because it is just too hard to defend supporting Trump. I mean, is there a single argument for that that wouldn't make a person sound delusional at best?? I'm not even trying to insult them... it just seems like an objective fact at this point, no? Can logic really dictate that any justification for still supporting him, after everything that's happened, is reasonable? Even after dropping the bias? .... If any Trump supporter think that isn't true, I would genuinely be interested in hearing how they do justify it and still sound reasonable.
    I see LOADS of people on social media that honestly believe he's doing a great job, some even claiming he's the best prez of all time. must be racists. 
    Absolutely.  So to the bolded question "Hey Trump voters and supporters, if these videos see the light of day would that change your vote?"  I tend to doubt it.  I can't imagine anyone that has not been swayed by the sky high list of things that show he's a scum bag and unfit for the job yet never will.  What really would be the straw that breaks that camel's back?  He'd literally have to say "I really don't care about America. I'm here for the novelty of being President and I spend my days stroking my ego with total indifference to the welfare of the country I was elected to lead."  And even then, I think we'd be disappointed by the drop.  

    Perhaps I was naive and it was always this way, but the "party first" culture just seems so much worse today.  Maybe it's not that different but simply more disturbing to see a GOP that's either spineless or content with this nonsense. 

    I was no fan of W, but I understood why some were.  And at least he wasn't embarrassing the country on a daily basis (well, not to the scale or with the frequency).  I look at the people supporting this guy and I'm left to just scratch my head.  I think it's part just digging in their heels...nobody likes to admit they were wrong.  But part of it is that just like us, they know he's not presidential, professional, or qualified.  And they legitimately like it.
    I pretty much agree with everything you and others have said. It's just that right now a lot of his fans can still say "We don't know what's in his heart" when it comes to his racism, but once a video like that comes out there would be no denying it (not that they still probably wouldn't). So at that point they would (should) have to admit that they support a proven racist, and they are okay with that.

    Not to mention I would love to see the GOP try and explain it away, plus it would be a nice vindication for us that have been saying he is a racist all along.

  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    PJ_Soul said:
    Oh geez, GW comes off like Einstein if you compare him to Trump, lol. It's amazing what the comparing game has done for GW's rep, lol.
    I actually had someone try to tell me the other day that "it's a fact" that Trump has the highest IQ out of the last 4 Presidents.  Of course, this was after he spent 20 minutes spouting Vegas conspiracy theories to the bartender.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,126
    dignin said:
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    ledvedderman said:
    dignin said:
    ledvedderman said:
    Go Beavers said:
    dignin said:
    Just as a reminder in case anyone forgot.

    TRUMP SAID ‘DESPICABLE’ RACIST COMMENTS ABOUT BLACKS, JEWS IN TAPED ‘APPRENTICE’ MEETINGS, CLAIMS FORMER PRODUCER



    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-racist-apprentice-tape-sexist-claims-producer-678944?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

    He'll never get elected now!
    Ha! No kidding. I don't think people understand that somehow these articles make him more popular with his base and don't cost him one single vote. 

    Well, there are Trump supporters on here so let's ask them.

    Hey Trump voters and supporters, if these videos see the light of day would that change your vote? 
    Don't confuse the two on this board as legitimate Trump supporters. One is bitter at Democrats and the other is just stirring the pot. I'd love a real supporter of Trump on here though that would offer authentic answers and not just talking points. 
    There are more than the two fake ones who frequent here to troll. They are just pretty quiet....and I can't say I blame them.
    Me neither... mainly because it is just too hard to defend supporting Trump. I mean, is there a single argument for that that wouldn't make a person sound delusional at best?? I'm not even trying to insult them... it just seems like an objective fact at this point, no? Can logic really dictate that any justification for still supporting him, after everything that's happened, is reasonable? Even after dropping the bias? .... If any Trump supporter think that isn't true, I would genuinely be interested in hearing how they do justify it and still sound reasonable.
    I see LOADS of people on social media that honestly believe he's doing a great job, some even claiming he's the best prez of all time. must be racists. 
    Absolutely.  So to the bolded question "Hey Trump voters and supporters, if these videos see the light of day would that change your vote?"  I tend to doubt it.  I can't imagine anyone that has not been swayed by the sky high list of things that show he's a scum bag and unfit for the job yet never will.  What really would be the straw that breaks that camel's back?  He'd literally have to say "I really don't care about America. I'm here for the novelty of being President and I spend my days stroking my ego with total indifference to the welfare of the country I was elected to lead."  And even then, I think we'd be disappointed by the drop.  

    Perhaps I was naive and it was always this way, but the "party first" culture just seems so much worse today.  Maybe it's not that different but simply more disturbing to see a GOP that's either spineless or content with this nonsense. 

    I was no fan of W, but I understood why some were.  And at least he wasn't embarrassing the country on a daily basis (well, not to the scale or with the frequency).  I look at the people supporting this guy and I'm left to just scratch my head.  I think it's part just digging in their heels...nobody likes to admit they were wrong.  But part of it is that just like us, they know he's not presidential, professional, or qualified.  And they legitimately like it.
    I pretty much agree with everything you and others have said. It's just that right now a lot of his fans can still say "We don't know what's in his heart" when it comes to his racism, but once a video like that comes out there would be no denying it (not that they still probably wouldn't). So at that point they would (should) have to admit that they support a proven racist, and they are okay with that.

    Not to mention I would love to see the GOP try and explain it away, plus it would be a nice vindication for us that have been saying he is a racist all along.

    The Republican Party is racist. See Reagan, Ronald, choice of location for presidential announcement speech. They haven't turned back since.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Oh geez, GW comes off like Einstein if you compare him to Trump, lol. It's amazing what the comparing game has done for GW's rep, lol.
    I actually had someone try to tell me the other day that "it's a fact" that Trump has the highest IQ out of the last 4 Presidents.  Of course, this was after he spent 20 minutes spouting Vegas conspiracy theories to the bartender.
    :lol: Yeah, I've seen those ridiculous articles that claim his IQ is 156. It's obviously complete bullshit. The same articles tried to claim that his entire family is blessed with genius level IQs as well. :lol: Well, maybe show your friend this? Not that someone who would believe that would ever admit that something on snopes means anything, lol ..... http://www.snopes.com/donald-trumps-intelligence-quotient/

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I want to hear his take on the 33,000 job losses. 

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  • stuckinline
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    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    stuckinline said:

    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

    Appeasing the Catholic arm of his base supporters. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    tbergs said:
    stuckinline said:

    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

    Appeasing the Catholic arm of his base supporters. 
    It seems like more the fundamentalist Christian base. In certain areas of the country, you have Catholics that are bigly Democrats. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Go Beavers said:
    tbergs said:
    stuckinline said:

    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

    Appeasing the Catholic arm of his base supporters. 
    It seems like more the fundamentalist Christian base. In certain areas of the country, you have Catholics that are bigly Democrats. 
    It's more shallow than that.  He is systematically undoing every piece of Obama's legacy out of hatred and spite. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    CM189191 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tbergs said:
    stuckinline said:

    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

    Appeasing the Catholic arm of his base supporters. 
    It seems like more the fundamentalist Christian base. In certain areas of the country, you have Catholics that are bigly Democrats. 
    It's more shallow than that.  He is systematically undoing every piece of Obama's legacy out of hatred and spite. 
    That is exactly what it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    HesCalledDyer said:
    CM189191 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tbergs said:
    stuckinline said:

    Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

    Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds.

    NEW YORK ― President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule Friday that allows all employers to opt out of including birth control in their health insurance plans for any moral or religious reason, rolling back the Obama-era requirement that guaranteed contraception coverage at no cost to 62 million women. 

    Appeasing the Catholic arm of his base supporters. 
    It seems like more the fundamentalist Christian base. In certain areas of the country, you have Catholics that are bigly Democrats. 
    It's more shallow than that.  He is systematically undoing every piece of Obama's legacy out of hatred and spite. 
    That is exactly what it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.
    But his base loves it and the narcissist in him wants that adoration. 
    it's a win-win for him. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    jeffbr said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I want to hear his take on the 33,000 job losses. 

    This was poorly written (imagine that)... it makes it read like he broke the streak in a GOOD way, not a bad one.  
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