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  • dignindignin Posts: 7,403
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:
    Hannity is reporting that as soon as tonight news of “no collision found” will be out as meuller’s investigation findings.   We already knew this but 18 months is a long time for nothing
    Here's what he's talking about.

    House GOP says no evidence of collusion as they end Russia probe

    This is the problem with roughly 50% (or more) of American voters. House GOP says no evidence of collusion and they take it to mean that Mueller has found no evidence of collusion too. Low info voters = win for the Republicans.
    Well ... it works for the Dems too when they can get them to the polls. In fact if all low info voters actually voted, Dems would win in a landslide
    So we agree that most Republicans are low info voters?

    And I haven't seen the stats behind the claim that most low info non-voters are democrats. Can you post the evidence here?
    No, we don’t agree. That’s not what I said at all. Where are your stats to back that up?

    Im better that a large % of non-voters are low info. And when the Dems mobilize that group, they gain a lot more votes than GOP.
    Trump and his continued popularity among Republicans is all the evidence anyone should need.

    Still waiting for some evidence that low info non-voters are democrats.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,624
    edited March 2018
    Tillerson found out he was fired from Trump's tweet.

    Donald Trump is a fucking coward.
    Absolutely. It's so stunningly unprofessional and inappropriate and disrespectful. That's how the guy does business as the POTUS. Via fucking Twitter. It's also how he handles international affairs a lot of the time. Everyone should be really, really worried about this. Because if he does that in front of the whole world without shame, just imagine the shit he's pulling behind closed doors. It's terrifying.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,972
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,847
    So now he's fired  Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein for contradicting the offical reason for Tillerson's dismissal.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378133-top-tillerson-aide-fired-after-giving-contradicting-account-of-ouster

    This dude is absolutely unraveling.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    So now he's fired  Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein for contradicting the offical reason for Tillerson's dismissal.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378133-top-tillerson-aide-fired-after-giving-contradicting-account-of-ouster

    This dude is absolutely unraveling.
    Lol
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,586
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:
    Hannity is reporting that as soon as tonight news of “no collision found” will be out as meuller’s investigation findings.   We already knew this but 18 months is a long time for nothing
    Here's what he's talking about.

    House GOP says no evidence of collusion as they end Russia probe

    This is the problem with roughly 50% (or more) of American voters. House GOP says no evidence of collusion and they take it to mean that Mueller has found no evidence of collusion too. Low info voters = win for the Republicans.
    Well ... it works for the Dems too when they can get them to the polls. In fact if all low info voters actually voted, Dems would win in a landslide
    So we agree that most Republicans are low info voters?

    And I haven't seen the stats behind the claim that most low info non-voters are democrats. Can you post the evidence here?
    No, we don’t agree. That’s not what I said at all. Where are your stats to back that up?

    Im better that a large % of non-voters are low info. And when the Dems mobilize that group, they gain a lot more votes than GOP.
    Trump and his continued popularity among Republicans is all the evidence anyone should need.

    Still waiting for some evidence that low info non-voters are democrats.
    Well that's not evidence at all.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/opinion/voter-turnout-democrats-republicans.html

    Perhaps you are not understanding what I'm saying.  I believe there are likely very similar low info voters %-wise in each party.  But there are more democrats/liberals sitting on the sidelines during a presidential election.  The Republicans get their low info voters to come out and vote the 1 or 2 issues they do know (abortion being 1).  If the Democrats can get their non voters to come out and vote the 1 or 2 issues that they actually know something about (see Obama election), they win.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,815
    Tillerson to speak on camera at 2pm. This could get interesting.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,383
    OnWis97 said:
    So now he's fired  Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein for contradicting the offical reason for Tillerson's dismissal.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378133-top-tillerson-aide-fired-after-giving-contradicting-account-of-ouster

    This dude is absolutely unraveling.
    The comment about him being “much happier now” is eerily reminiscent of parents telling kids that the dog is being sent to a “nice home in the country”. 

    But honestly, who wouldn’t be much happier out of that wreck of a White House?
     
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 3,899
    I can't stand Donald Trump just as much as those three ***Psychopaths*** sitting together at the end of World War two...
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 21,645
    JimmyV said:
    Tillerson to speak on camera at 2pm. This could get interesting.
    There is no way he’s throwing bafoon under the bus , he will state that he made this decision on his own ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 3,899

    Surely he's not as Bad as this Guy..

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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 3,899
    edited March 2018
    E.V. - "Music is a Weapon of Mass Construction"
    Perth-20th March 1998
    Perth-23rd February 2003
    Perth-25th November 2006
    Perth-14th November 2009
    E.V. - Perth-31st March, 1st April 2011
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,905
    jesus. I go down to the lunch room to turn on CNN and some ADULT is watching fucking Hotel Transylvania on the kids cartoon network. WTF?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,972
    jesus. I go down to the lunch room to turn on CNN and some ADULT is watching fucking Hotel Transylvania on the kids cartoon network. WTF?
    You sure it wasn't a live stream in to Trump's bed room of what he's watching before nap time :lol:
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,905
    tbergs said:
    jesus. I go down to the lunch room to turn on CNN and some ADULT is watching fucking Hotel Transylvania on the kids cartoon network. WTF?
    You sure it wasn't a live stream in to Trump's bed room of what he's watching before nap time :lol:
    Excellent point. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,181
    Team Trump Treason will have the US at war in late 2019/early 2020, to you know, increase his re-election chances.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    Team Trump Treason will have the US at war in late 2019/early 2020, to you know, increase his re-election chances.
    I've been telling this to my gf for the last 6-8 months... the hawks and war profiteers know they have the perfect bafoon to do their bidding and take the fall
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    What im reading about this CIA appointee,  she should be in prison for war crimes instead of running the CIA 

    I despise everything this presidency stands for
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,181
    Yea, I’d like a bucket of extra crispy, a side of mashed and give me quadruple gravy. Oh, and send a side of biscuits to Rex.


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  • dignindignin Posts: 7,403
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:
    Hannity is reporting that as soon as tonight news of “no collision found” will be out as meuller’s investigation findings.   We already knew this but 18 months is a long time for nothing
    Here's what he's talking about.

    House GOP says no evidence of collusion as they end Russia probe

    This is the problem with roughly 50% (or more) of American voters. House GOP says no evidence of collusion and they take it to mean that Mueller has found no evidence of collusion too. Low info voters = win for the Republicans.
    Well ... it works for the Dems too when they can get them to the polls. In fact if all low info voters actually voted, Dems would win in a landslide
    So we agree that most Republicans are low info voters?

    And I haven't seen the stats behind the claim that most low info non-voters are democrats. Can you post the evidence here?
    No, we don’t agree. That’s not what I said at all. Where are your stats to back that up?

    Im better that a large % of non-voters are low info. And when the Dems mobilize that group, they gain a lot more votes than GOP.
    Trump and his continued popularity among Republicans is all the evidence anyone should need.

    Still waiting for some evidence that low info non-voters are democrats.
    Well that's not evidence at all.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/opinion/voter-turnout-democrats-republicans.html

    Perhaps you are not understanding what I'm saying.  I believe there are likely very similar low info voters %-wise in each party.  But there are more democrats/liberals sitting on the sidelines during a presidential election.  The Republicans get their low info voters to come out and vote the 1 or 2 issues they do know (abortion being 1).  If the Democrats can get their non voters to come out and vote the 1 or 2 issues that they actually know something about (see Obama election), they win.
    I can agree with that. But I think there is definitely a case to be made that actual Republican voters are less informed than Democrat voters. All you have to do is watch one evening of the most popular "news" network in America to get that impression. Fox is misinforming Americans every night, there is no equivalent on the left.
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,643
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    Agreed. That is why I hate "Get Out The Vote" campaigns, or "Vote For Change" movements. The voters who are informed and actually care, are already planning on voting. All these awareness campaigns do is bring out the lowest common denominator as if voting numbers is the goal. My goal would be to have everyone who does vote actually understand the issues or candidates for which/whom they're casting votes.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,643
    OnWis97 said:
    So now he's fired  Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein for contradicting the offical reason for Tillerson's dismissal.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378133-top-tillerson-aide-fired-after-giving-contradicting-account-of-ouster

    This dude is absolutely unraveling.
    All aboard! Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa! I'm going off the rails on a crazy train.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,905
    jeffbr said:
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    Agreed. That is why I hate "Get Out The Vote" campaigns, or "Vote For Change" movements. The voters who are informed and actually care, are already planning on voting. All these awareness campaigns do is bring out the lowest common denominator as if voting numbers is the goal. My goal would be to have everyone who does vote actually understand the issues or candidates for which/whom they're casting votes.
    but that actually has been part of the vote for change campaigns. they try to encourage people to educate themselves, do they not?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,586
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    That wasn’t my intent. I think I made my point better after you posted this.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,643
    jeffbr said:
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    Agreed. That is why I hate "Get Out The Vote" campaigns, or "Vote For Change" movements. The voters who are informed and actually care, are already planning on voting. All these awareness campaigns do is bring out the lowest common denominator as if voting numbers is the goal. My goal would be to have everyone who does vote actually understand the issues or candidates for which/whom they're casting votes.
    but that actually has been part of the vote for change campaigns. they try to encourage people to educate themselves, do they not?
    I agree that for many of those campaigns that is the goal. But it seems to me that the primary objective is to increase voter turnout. Having an informed voting block is a secondary consideration. And those campaigns often don't even scratch the surface of the issues. Here's a t-shirt and a sticker. Go vote. Here's your favorite rock star telling you to vote, so go vote. Get out and vote. Get to the polls. Those are the main messages. One still has to dig, even with those campaigns, to get informed. I'm sure some do. I'm sure the majority of the perspective voters don't bother going deeper than the tweet. If they really cared, they would already be informed.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,181
    Classless Team Trump Treason wants to “break” the Iran deal. Guess who will pay the price of such intentional, reckless instability?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 18,905
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    Agreed. That is why I hate "Get Out The Vote" campaigns, or "Vote For Change" movements. The voters who are informed and actually care, are already planning on voting. All these awareness campaigns do is bring out the lowest common denominator as if voting numbers is the goal. My goal would be to have everyone who does vote actually understand the issues or candidates for which/whom they're casting votes.
    but that actually has been part of the vote for change campaigns. they try to encourage people to educate themselves, do they not?
    I agree that for many of those campaigns that is the goal. But it seems to me that the primary objective is to increase voter turnout. Having an informed voting block is a secondary consideration. And those campaigns often don't even scratch the surface of the issues. Here's a t-shirt and a sticker. Go vote. Here's your favorite rock star telling you to vote, so go vote. Get out and vote. Get to the polls. Those are the main messages. One still has to dig, even with those campaigns, to get informed. I'm sure some do. I'm sure the majority of the perspective voters don't bother going deeper than the tweet. If they really cared, they would already be informed.
    I would imagine, though, if you convinced someone to vote, then they might get interested in the issues they are voting on. 
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,643
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    tbergs said:
    No need to argue over who has the most low info voters, they're everywhere and they only come out to vote when someone stokes their ire about how disenfranchised they are. It happens on both sides. It just so happens that this last time they voted for the worst candidate the GOP has ever endorsed.
    Agreed. That is why I hate "Get Out The Vote" campaigns, or "Vote For Change" movements. The voters who are informed and actually care, are already planning on voting. All these awareness campaigns do is bring out the lowest common denominator as if voting numbers is the goal. My goal would be to have everyone who does vote actually understand the issues or candidates for which/whom they're casting votes.
    but that actually has been part of the vote for change campaigns. they try to encourage people to educate themselves, do they not?
    I agree that for many of those campaigns that is the goal. But it seems to me that the primary objective is to increase voter turnout. Having an informed voting block is a secondary consideration. And those campaigns often don't even scratch the surface of the issues. Here's a t-shirt and a sticker. Go vote. Here's your favorite rock star telling you to vote, so go vote. Get out and vote. Get to the polls. Those are the main messages. One still has to dig, even with those campaigns, to get informed. I'm sure some do. I'm sure the majority of the perspective voters don't bother going deeper than the tweet. If they really cared, they would already be informed.
    I would imagine, though, if you convinced someone to vote, then they might get interested in the issues they are voting on. 
    I hope so! I'm just not as optimistic as you are. lol. 
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,578
    Good thing Trumpito will have all that help over at the State Department to get him prepped for that meeting in May with KJU. 

    The UNITED STATES ambassador to South Korea should be a pretty good contact person to start with... 

    Unless the next Secretary of State is John Fucking Kerry or Hillary Clinton, I dont want to hear shit from this administration.  I'm fed up.

    What a bunch of useless morons.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,181
    Team Trump Treason is rambling on and on about the wall and the more he speaks, the more he sounds so very uninformed. He’s blaming all the illegals and drug trafficking on California. He’s a brilliant idiot.
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