lastexitlondon said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well, I actually 100% support a complete ban of cars that require drivers too, if we're getting deep into the subject. The sooner driverless cars are the only option, the better. That will cure society of 99% of all traffic woes and accidents. However, I think your arguments for cars going way faster than any speed limit are a bit crazy. There is NO justification for weaving in and out of traffic or tailgating. That is ALWAYS dangerous driving behaviour, and really the only thing that justifies it is impatience. I agree driving habits are the main cause of traffic jams... fast drivers and slow drivers alike have those habits though, so that is besides the point. Driverless cars all the way! SO much safer and SO much more efficient. But only if everyone is using them. Someday it will become law... if society doesn't collapse and go to shit first.

so you never change lanes?

anyway i don't see a time where driverless cars will ever be a norm.  too many variables and decisions have to come into play when driving for all decisions to be allowed to be made by the car.  for example you are driving down the block and a child runs into the street to retrieve a ball. too many factors to take into account do decide the course of action in that case.  stop, swerve left, swerve right? the variables for those 3 decisions are too numerous to mention. without human thought and instinct at the moment what decision is to be made? you can't program  that for every possibility of what is left ,right and behind you.

as for Trump he thinks because people desperate for supplies who reach out to take them from him are doing it out of love?  ok Donny that's why they are taking that from you.  letting him out in public is a hazard to this country.

Machines will make these decisions much faster and better than humans.  They can process information regarding those types of things so much quicker.  Angle, speed, etc. will tell it exactly what to do.  You can program that, very easily.

child runs in front of you car, married couple walking with their dog to the left, old couple doing gardening to your right, 18-wheeler behind you.  someone is going to die.  who decides and who programs which life is most valuable in that instant? 

This is a great point and faster isn't better. Deciding is not what computers do. They follow instructions. Humans decide with the brain with can use many more factors in my humble opinion

AI can indeed decide many things after and more accurately than the human brain. We humans have a natural tendency to overvalue the accuracy of our judgements, but in many matters such as these
 computers already have us beat by a mile. About the only areas in which we are superior are creativity and empathy (well, most of us except Trump, that is - thread integrity). 

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Latest tweet folks...
It is a "miracle" how fast the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police were able to find the demented shooter and stop him from even more killing!

A "miracle" ???  What fucking idiot.  

And tossing paper towels to the crowd in Puerto Rico like its a big game?  Trump is an absolute fucking embarrassment to our country.  Everyday now I cringe at this assclown being President.  He just lies, lies and lies more, has no empathy for anyone, cares only about himself, money and his stupid fucking wall. How can anyone support or defend this piece of shit??

Said it before but each day my level of embarrassment reaches new lows. This is extraordinary.

stuckinline said:

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Wednesday pushed back on a report claiming that he threatened to quit and called President Donald Trump a “moron” over the summer, and held an unscheduled press conference to praise his boss and affirm his “commitment to the president and the success of our country.”

The nation’s top diplomat is said to have called Trump a “moron” following a meeting with members of Trump’s national security team, senior administration officials reportedly told NBC News.

When asked about the incident on Wednesday, Tillerson did not directly deny that it had occurred, saying: “I’m not going to deal with petty stuff like that.”

Tillerson also reportedly threatened not to return to Washington in July, according to NBC. He was in his home state of Texas for his son’s wedding when Trump delivered a widely condemned, highly politicized speech to the Boy Scouts of America. Tillerson was formerly the organization’s national president.

White House chief of staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis apparently stepped in to “beg him to stay,” according to the report. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said at the time that Tillerson was merely “taking a little time off.”

Vice President Mike Pence also got involved, officials added, offering Tillerson a “pep talk” over breakfast and encouraging him to find ways to smooth over the relationship with Trump. He suggested that Tillerson adopt a more conciliatory approach in public settings, and save his differences for private meetings.

On Wednesday, Tillerson denied that the intervention occurred.

“I have never considered leaving this post,” he said, before repeatedly showering Trump with praise and calling the president “smart.”

Trump called out NBC on Twitter, referring to its report as “fake news.”

Didn't see it live...was Kelly standing behind him with a gun to his head?

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

Breaking news:

Donald Trump is a piece of shit

I don't disagree with you, but in the interest of fairness......I would imagine if someone said this about Obama, the poster would have been given a time out and the thread locked. And there have been dozens of comments similar to this (maybe even by myself, can't recall) about Trump with zero repercussions. 

I don't think time outs are generally given for such comments about public figures, only for other posters. Of course, the mods discourage them, and sometimes lock the thread, but I can't recall off the top of my head when someone got a time out (bars or ban) for such comments. When people have wished violence or death on someone, yes.

Barack Obama and every president before him from either party, didn't go around calling people rapists, sons of bitches, etc. It's truly mind-boggling and a difficult thing. We'd like everyone to not descend into the type of person trump is by name-calling because you're all better than that. There are ways to communicate that are better too. Please try, and don't make him the new normal. Happy hump day all and may all the news today be good. 

Kat said:

Barack Obama and every president before him from either party, didn't go around calling people rapists, sons of bitches, etc. It's truly mind-boggling and a difficult thing. We'd like everyone to not descend into the type of person trump is by name-calling because you're all better than that. There are ways to communicate that are better too. Please try, and don't make him the new normal. Happy hump day all and may all the news today be good. 

would you have given/have you given someone a time out for calling Obama a piece of shit or something similar? just a question Kat. 

Kat said:

We do not discuss members' history at any time. When an action is taken, it also includes taking into consideration any prior history. I don't recall doing so but if it happened, there was a history. Just that single incident wouldn't cause a ban but if there was a ferocious argument going on, it would get a thread locked or temp-locked, you know? The goals here are for polite discussion with each other. People can be passionate but let's bring our best manners to the forums. I think there's a song about manners somewhere.

thanks for the response.  

oftenreading said:

lastexitlondon said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well, I actually 100% support a complete ban of cars that require drivers too, if we're getting deep into the subject. The sooner driverless cars are the only option, the better. That will cure society of 99% of all traffic woes and accidents. However, I think your arguments for cars going way faster than any speed limit are a bit crazy. There is NO justification for weaving in and out of traffic or tailgating. That is ALWAYS dangerous driving behaviour, and really the only thing that justifies it is impatience. I agree driving habits are the main cause of traffic jams... fast drivers and slow drivers alike have those habits though, so that is besides the point. Driverless cars all the way! SO much safer and SO much more efficient. But only if everyone is using them. Someday it will become law... if society doesn't collapse and go to shit first.

so you never change lanes?

anyway i don't see a time where driverless cars will ever be a norm.  too many variables and decisions have to come into play when driving for all decisions to be allowed to be made by the car.  for example you are driving down the block and a child runs into the street to retrieve a ball. too many factors to take into account do decide the course of action in that case.  stop, swerve left, swerve right? the variables for those 3 decisions are too numerous to mention. without human thought and instinct at the moment what decision is to be made? you can't program  that for every possibility of what is left ,right and behind you.

as for Trump he thinks because people desperate for supplies who reach out to take them from him are doing it out of love?  ok Donny that's why they are taking that from you.  letting him out in public is a hazard to this country.

Machines will make these decisions much faster and better than humans.  They can process information regarding those types of things so much quicker.  Angle, speed, etc. will tell it exactly what to do.  You can program that, very easily.

child runs in front of you car, married couple walking with their dog to the left, old couple doing gardening to your right, 18-wheeler behind you.  someone is going to die.  who decides and who programs which life is most valuable in that instant? 

This is a great point and faster isn't better. Deciding is not what computers do. They follow instructions. Humans decide with the brain with can use many more factors in my humble opinion

AI can indeed decide many things after and more accurately than the human brain. We humans have a natural tendency to overvalue the accuracy of our judgements, but in many matters such as these
 computers already have us beat by a mile. About the only areas in which we are superior are creativity and empathy (well, most of us except Trump, that is - thread integrity). 

And really, nobody can make those decisions in a split second anyway. Are you two trying to tell me that your super-computer brains are capable of having a kid dash out in front of your car so close that you don't have time to brake, and you're perfectly able to take in and evaluate the fact that there is a pregnant lady to your left, an old couple to your right, and a truck behind you, and then have the wherewithal to make a good decision about who is best to run over or how to perfectly steer around it all, and about whether slamming on your brakes is going to cause a chain reaction because of the truck behind you??? And that you can do any one of those things faster than a computer? I call huge bullshit. The premise is totally ridiculous and I can't believe you're trying to suggest it. I'll tell you what you and anyone else would do in that situation: you'd slam on your brakes or swerve wildly to the side no matter what happens to be next to you. Those are the only two things a human brain could manage to get done in that amount of time.