New York Giants Official Thread

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

Giants should ask the NFL to not let them play MNF or SNF games for awhile

I fucking hate these prime time games. Fucks up my sleep 

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

Are you his agent?

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

I brought this up a year or two ago and you guys all ripped me. It's not a shot at the guy, it's just an accurate assessment of his career.......although, he is obviously very clutch come January. He's had an odd and very interesting career to me:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/

Eli Manning Is Profoundly Mediocre

Even after Eli Manning’s 200 consecutive regular-season NFL starts, quantifying his career is difficult.

Manning is in his 14th season, and nearly every one has felt like a crossroads. Which quarterback would show up for the Giants: the one capable of winning two Super Bowl MVPs — or the one capable of leading the NFL in interceptions for three seasons?

The answer was probably somewhere in between. Manning has been reliably, and historically, mediocre.

he's had bad offensive lines for most of his career.

I can always count on you!

Put him in New England he has more SBs and a much better record. Or at least a much better record. You need luck to win in the playoffs

read the article

No one's saying he's the greatest QB of all time. He doesn't have speed.  So he's not going to be running every time. It would be more accurate if the QBs he's being compared to played in the exact situation. With the exact same players. The same play calls.

The last 3 or 4 years have been Eli's best years because of McAdoo's play calling. If he had McAdoo from the start. People would be singing a different tune about Eli.

Yeah sure. Let's compare him to someone who played in the exact same situations with the exact same players and the exact same play calls. 

Dude. Listen to yourself. You're incapable of having an objective discussion about this guy. Always have been. 

there are a lot of factors that go into it. Receivers catching/dropping balls. Running backs making plays. Defenses playing well. Tipped passes getting intercepted or falling on the floor. 

Are you his agent?

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

6 things that hurt us. The interception that led to a touchdown. Not calling a timeout before the field goal attempt at the half. Marshall dropping what would have been a huge first down. Offensive line sucks again. Defense did not play well enough. And special teams giving up a touchdown on the punt return.

that's it?

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