***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    You know it's going to happen, right? What? You think he and his policies are brilliant? Tired of winning yet?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    2018
    I believe people still think this mess will get better as if he will become a good president overnight he is what he is @70 yrs old he is not going to change!
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    edited August 2017
    2019
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    2019
    ledvedderman said:
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    I agree the way this administration is going it is not going to end well. It's as if 45 knows it's not going to end well or he's already has a plan for an endgame. In the meantime its as if he saying....I'm going to do what I want and say whatever I want as long as my base sticks with me. What a mess I thought while he was on vacation we the citizenry would get a break from the chaos while WH is being renovated. However, everyday it's like what crazy shit happened today, it can not continue like this I just hope no nuclear decisions have to be made while 45 is still in charge. Bless the whole world.

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
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    ^ Righr on, g. Right on 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019
    Previewing the 2019 trump Impeachment:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-just-six-senate-votes-away-impeachment-651857?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    The Juggler said:
    Previewing the 2019 trump Impeachment:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-just-six-senate-votes-away-impeachment-651857?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
    Do you swear by that article?  I swear that those six votes wont happen.  I swear.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    getting close!


    The core question is not a simple one: whether there were any links and/or coordination between the Trump campaign and representatives of the Russian government ("collusion" in the term popularized by the media; "conspiracy" in legal terms). This is because direct evidence of any collusion or conspiracy may be difficult to come by.

    Not Perry Mason

    It is unlikely that a signed agreement between the parties would exist. It is not probable that written documents expressly evidence a quid pro quo. It would be surprising if there were any Perry Mason-style confessions by witnesses appearing before the grand jury.

    To the extent that any evidence of a conspiracy were to exist and the conspiracy could be proven, it is likely that most of the evidence would be circumstantial -- that is, it may only consist of verbal understandings and tacit agreements through financial and other intermediaries and close business associates.


    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/18/opinions/russia-special-counsel-room-to-roam-opinion-zeldin/index.html

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019
    ledvedderman said:
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    Honestly, I think he will resign instead of facing conviction in the senate. It will be similar to Nixon. I should change the title of the thread to impeachment/resignation----to me it's kind of the same thing. Just the idea of when will this "presidency" end prematurely...
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,457
    The Juggler said:
    ledvedderman said:
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    Honestly, I think he will resign instead of facing conviction in the senate. It will be similar to Nixon. I should change the title of the thread to impeachment/resignation----to me it's kind of the same thing. Just the idea of when will this "presidency" end prematurely...
    Unfortunately I think he would fight impeachment as hard as possible.
    He's  the kind of wealthy narcissistic jackass that would spend a million dollars to fight a $50,000 lawsuit.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    :lol:  The thread title change.

    So how are both of those going?  

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    jeffbr said:
    I'm obviously a little optimistic with my 2017 prediction, but at the rate shit has been happening, it doesn't seem as crazy as it did when I initially voted. I think post-2018 when the next Congress is elected is probably more likely, but with GOP heavyweights like Lindsey Graham and John McCain blasting Trump, hopefully they'll be able to create some sort of opposition movement within the GOP. Never thought I'd be jumping on a Lindsey Graham bandwagon, LOL. People like Pelosi and Franken can rightfully make noise about this latest Sessions revelation, and that will mostly be dismissed because it is expected from the opposition party. But when you have 2 very senior, powerful GOP senators now acting like the opposition, it is starting to get real. So I'm going to hold on to my 2017 prediction, especially if Sessions is in no position to block progress (either because he recuses himself, resigns, or is fired).

    Still holding on?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,580
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    :lol:  The thread title change.

    So how are both of those going?  

    Seem to be moving along just fine. Did I miss something? 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,580

    Go Beavers said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    :lol:  The thread title change.

    So how are both of those going?  

    Seem to be moving along just fine. Did I miss something? 
    I ruined my commitment. 
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mfc2006 said:
    I originally voted 2018.... I may need to change that to 2017. What a shitshow.

    So is it coming? Impeachment or resignation I mean.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    2018
    Go Beavers said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    :lol:  The thread title change.

    So how are both of those going?  

    Seem to be moving along just fine. Did I miss something? 
    I agree.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    I originally voted 2018.... I may need to change that to 2017. What a shitshow.

    So is it coming? Impeachment or resignation I mean.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    2017
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    I'm obviously a little optimistic with my 2017 prediction, but at the rate shit has been happening, it doesn't seem as crazy as it did when I initially voted. I think post-2018 when the next Congress is elected is probably more likely, but with GOP heavyweights like Lindsey Graham and John McCain blasting Trump, hopefully they'll be able to create some sort of opposition movement within the GOP. Never thought I'd be jumping on a Lindsey Graham bandwagon, LOL. People like Pelosi and Franken can rightfully make noise about this latest Sessions revelation, and that will mostly be dismissed because it is expected from the opposition party. But when you have 2 very senior, powerful GOP senators now acting like the opposition, it is starting to get real. So I'm going to hold on to my 2017 prediction, especially if Sessions is in no position to block progress (either because he recuses himself, resigns, or is fired).

    Still holding on?
    Yup! As I said, I figured I was overly optimistic, but am not tossing out that prediction, especially now that resignation is part of the thread title. I still don't believe he'll last 4 years, and am still hopeful that he'll throw in the towel before the year is up, so he can leave the "dump" he currently lives in and get back to shitting on a golden throne in NYC. He isn't happy, and took a hell of a beating in the press and on social media this past week for being honest with us about his racist views. So I think he's getting closer and closer to calling time of death on his presidency. Can't come soon enough for me.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019

    I love how some people think that if there is no big news leaking out, the investigation might be stalling.....haha

    Despite the North Korea, Charleston, and now Afghanistan distractions, Mueller and his team have been doing nothing but digging deeper and deeper and deeper.....

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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    2018
    I also love it how people have no fucking clue how investigations of this magnitude actually take TIME. This isn't Scooby-Doo. 
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