America's Gun Violence

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJPOWER said:
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    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.
    There's a yawning chasm between triggering and provoking someone. If the NRA is dog-whistling for violence based on race & political views, they're toeing the line of hate crime / terroristic threats. No surprise coming from an organization with a symbiotic relationship with terrorists like the oath keepers, michigan militia, 3%s. The Right continues to try to drag the Left down to it's level.    

    As of late, it seems like the Right have only been responding to Left wing violence.  Is that their excuse now, that they were provoked (triggered) and cannot contain their violent tendencies?  
    If you provoke someone towards violence, don't be surprised when you get punched in the nose. Everything about this video is intended to tickle your lizard brain, designed to add fuel to the fire, rather than try to de-escalate some imaginary problem. 

    The right is responding to fear mongering and having their stupidity exploited for political and financial gain. See also: "regulations kill jobs", "healthcare is socialism" & "voter fraud". 

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.                




                                   
    Your response is not surprising given your extremist stance. 
    Haha, if my stance is extremist, then there are some super duper hecka extremists out there that totally overshadow my so called extremism.  Not agreeing with you does not equal extremism...unless you are on the far extreme of the other side...such as the Antifa lunatics.
    Keep defending that video that promotes escalation in violence. 
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,210
    Just watched the video. Yikes.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Because only in 'Murica do you have to worry about going to the hospital and being shot. Does Trump Care cover that?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    edited July 2017
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
    Yes people on these boards (some in this same discussion) called kathy gifford's bloody donald trump's head "art".  Even though to me it supported a hell of a lot of violence. The nra made an ad that bashed the left (some of it is actually true), what surprises you about that?


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
    Yes people on these boards (some in this same discussion) called kathy gifford's bloody donald trump's head "art".  Even though to me it supported a hell of a lot of violence. The nra made an ad that bashed the left (some of it is actually true), what surprises you about that?

    Where is the hate against large groups of people in the ad?
    People can think something is art and still not be in support of it, just like I can agree that the US army has lots of bombs and not be in favour of how they are used. I'm not sure why the distinction is difficult to understand. 
     
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  • dignin
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    dudeman said:
    Just watched the video. Yikes.
    Thank you. 
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    Is anything not associated with white supremacy these days?  What a clown.
  • rgambs
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    unsung said:
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    Is anything not associated with white supremacy these days?  What a clown.
    When you keep hearing things you support are related to white supremacy, you might think twice.

    Nope, just cucks right?  LOL
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  • unsung
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    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
  • rgambs
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    unsung said:
    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
    And white supremacy existed before the NRA, that had nothing to do with their cozy relationship.
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  • unsung
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    The only relationship that exists in the liberal fantasy world.
  • unsung
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    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
    And white supremacy existed before the NRA, that had nothing to do with their cozy relationship.
    You're partially correct as your party started the KKK.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
    And white supremacy existed before the NRA, that had nothing to do with their cozy relationship.
    You're partially correct as your party started the KKK.

    Ah, bringing out that old chestnut, eh?
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  • RiotZact
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    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
    And white supremacy existed before the NRA, that had nothing to do with their cozy relationship.
    You're partially correct as your party started the KKK.

    Ah, bringing out that old chestnut, eh?
    It's one of a few classic conservative phrases that they think in their own minds is a trump card for any argument. No pun intended. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    The NRA (I can't believe I am defending them) existed before the wacky left decided to label people that don't follow their radical prescribed agenda to the T.
    And white supremacy existed before the NRA, that had nothing to do with their cozy relationship.
    You're partially correct as your party started the KKK.
    Sure, my party owns it's past, your party (yes yours, you can deny it all you want, it's the truth any way you slice it) owns it's present.
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  • unsung
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    Radical leftist wordship means little.
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,210
    This thread really took a wrong turn somewhere. It used to be a discussion. Now it's not any better than a session of Congress with each side taking jabs at the other with no productivity as a result. 

    I thought the train was better than that. 
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