Legit Binaural Vinyl

Rygar
Rygar Posts: 8,711
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hey, my local record store has a new sealed copy of Binaural for $80 Cdn. Does anyone know how to tell if it's a bootleg or legit from the sleeve?

Thanks in advance!

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    Ask the store- is it black or colored? Colored is def a bootleg but if it's black it could be either fake or real.  Doubt they'd sell a real one for that price but the least you could do is ask them.  Take a photo of the bar code and look it up on discogs?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited June 2017
    The price confirms that it is a fake. For sure. There are other indicators, but that is the easiest one to look at, lol. ;)

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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Quickest way is to look at the front cover. The fakes say Pearl Jam at the top.
    The real lp's just have the album title on the bottom.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Dr. Delight said:
    Quickest way is to look at the front cover. The fakes say Pearl Jam at the top.
    The real lp's just have the album title on the bottom.

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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Dr. Delight said:
    Quickest way is to look at the front cover. The fakes say Pearl Jam at the top.
    The real lp's just have the album title on the bottom.
    Thanks for all the replies! 
    I will have to check for this. Seemed to me to be the proper album cover but it's been a while since I've looked at that one hahaha
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,909
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
  • gaz
    gaz Posts: 233
    This is what my copy looks like....original 2000 pressing. Hope it helps...
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Thanks everyone, I'm going with "it's a bootleg" and it can stay where it is ;)
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    Rygar said:
    Thanks everyone, I'm going with "it's a bootleg" and it can stay where it is ;)
    They should be ashamed of themselves for selling a Bootlegged record for that much...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited June 2017
    Zod said:
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
    Agreed. It's all well and good for those who are really on top of this issue, but I have seen SO many less obsessed people (haha) get tricked by these kinds of boots, and have way overspent, thinking they were getting a deal. It's a total scam, and I agree that any record store selling these, and especially those selling these without clearly marking them as fakes, should be ashamed of themselves ... it is technically illegal for those stores to even sell them. They should be more conscious of that!
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,909
    edited June 2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    Zod said:
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
    Agreed. It's all well and good for those who are really on top of this issue, but I have seen SO many less obsessed people (haha) get tricked by these kinds of boots, and have way overspent, thinking they were getting a deal. It's a total scam, and I agree that any record store selling these, and especially those selling these without clearly marking them as fakes, should be ashamed of themselves ... it is technically illegal for those stores to even sell them. They should be more conscious of that!
    Yah, I started to get suspicious of my local store when I saw a new copy of Mirrorball a few years back.   Then I really knew it was bootlegs when I saw a copy of Tool's Aenima vinyl.   That one goes for a mint, so there's no way you'll randomly run into a mint/sealed copy for $50 in a record store.

    It's experience too (but I guess you're right, maybe a little OCD).  If you're brand new to it, you'd have no clue.   After year's of collecting you'll absolutely know the holes in your collection and why they are there :)  Tool's Aenima, 10000 days, Springsteen's The Rising, etc... there's a reason they aren't in my collection :(
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited June 2017
    Zod said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Zod said:
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
    Agreed. It's all well and good for those who are really on top of this issue, but I have seen SO many less obsessed people (haha) get tricked by these kinds of boots, and have way overspent, thinking they were getting a deal. It's a total scam, and I agree that any record store selling these, and especially those selling these without clearly marking them as fakes, should be ashamed of themselves ... it is technically illegal for those stores to even sell them. They should be more conscious of that!
    Yah, I started to get suspicious of my local store when I saw a new copy of Mirrorball a few years back.   Then I really knew it was bootlegs when I saw a copy of Tool's Aenima vinyl.   That one goes for a mint, so there's no way you'll randomly run into a mint/sealed copy for $50 in a record store.

    It's experience too (but I guess you're right, maybe a little OCD).  If you're brand new to it, you'd have no clue.   After year's of collecting you'll absolutely know the holes in your collection and why they are there :)  Tool's Aenima, 10000 days, Springsteen's The Rising, etc... there's a reason they aren't in my collection :(
    For sure. I remember when I first got back into vinyl and knew nothing about the market and it had never occurred to me that there would be a bunch of different unofficial versions of something out there, often with shady sourcing. Thank goodness for message boards! I learned a TON just from the 10C boards. :) It's amazing how much there is to learn when it comes to collecting vinyl! Of course, that is at least half the fun with this hobby... it is also at least half the risk in terms of spending vinyl money badly.
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  • mwplum
    mwplum Posts: 1,542
    Zod said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Zod said:
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
    Agreed. It's all well and good for those who are really on top of this issue, but I have seen SO many less obsessed people (haha) get tricked by these kinds of boots, and have way overspent, thinking they were getting a deal. It's a total scam, and I agree that any record store selling these, and especially those selling these without clearly marking them as fakes, should be ashamed of themselves ... it is technically illegal for those stores to even sell them. They should be more conscious of that!
    Yah, I started to get suspicious of my local store when I saw a new copy of Mirrorball a few years back.   Then I really knew it was bootlegs when I saw a copy of Tool's Aenima vinyl.   That one goes for a mint, so there's no way you'll randomly run into a mint/sealed copy for $50 in a record store.

    It's experience too (but I guess you're right, maybe a little OCD).  If you're brand new to it, you'd have no clue.   After year's of collecting you'll absolutely know the holes in your collection and why they are there :)  Tool's Aenima, 10000 days, Springsteen's The Rising, etc... there's a reason they aren't in my collection :(
    I actually bought Mirrorball from Ditch a few years ago! I was so excited, only to realize when I got home that it was a boot. Thankfully it still sounds good, but still, it's annoying, especially when they charge so much for them. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Zod said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Zod said:
    It's a bootleg.  Binaural hasn't been reissued yet.  If it was genuine it would be 17 years old and go for a few hundred dollars.

    Unfortunately I've seen bootlegs of studio albums in my local store (ditch records).   I don't mind bootlegs when it's live stuff and obvious, but something bugs me when studio albums are bootlegged and being passed off as originals :(   I always find myself on my phone googling if something has been reissued or not.
    Agreed. It's all well and good for those who are really on top of this issue, but I have seen SO many less obsessed people (haha) get tricked by these kinds of boots, and have way overspent, thinking they were getting a deal. It's a total scam, and I agree that any record store selling these, and especially those selling these without clearly marking them as fakes, should be ashamed of themselves ... it is technically illegal for those stores to even sell them. They should be more conscious of that!
    Yah, I started to get suspicious of my local store when I saw a new copy of Mirrorball a few years back.   Then I really knew it was bootlegs when I saw a copy of Tool's Aenima vinyl.   That one goes for a mint, so there's no way you'll randomly run into a mint/sealed copy for $50 in a record store.

    It's experience too (but I guess you're right, maybe a little OCD).  If you're brand new to it, you'd have no clue.   After year's of collecting you'll absolutely know the holes in your collection and why they are there :)  Tool's Aenima, 10000 days, Springsteen's The Rising, etc... there's a reason they aren't in my collection :(
    FYI 10,000 Days was never on vinyl.  Aenima was though.

    Salival is another TOOL record that's packaged nice that's a fake.

    Lots of PJ10 colored records out there too, all fake...
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,909
    tempo_n_groove said:
    FYI 10,000 Days was never on vinyl.  Aenima was though.


    That's why when you see a 10000 days vinyl, something is definitely wrong :)
  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,294
    Zod said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    FYI 10,000 Days was never on vinyl.  Aenima was though.


    That's why when you see a 10000 days vinyl, something is definitely wrong :)
    I got a red copy from Ditch for $48, i knew it was a boot but cheap compated to Ebay and it doesn't sound half bad.
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  • brianwilson
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    I paid 200 for mine (unfortunately).  The others, including LO2L, cost 100 or less.  On the other hand, I sold my Avocado for 250-300 (surprised someone paid that much).   

    I really want Riot Act - like Binaural, it's pretty expensive
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,909
    brianwilson said:
    I paid 200 for mine (unfortunately).  The others, including LO2L, cost 100 or less.  On the other hand, I sold my Avocado for 250-300 (surprised someone paid that much).   

    I really want Riot Act - like Binaural, it's pretty expensive
    I would assume those get reissued in the not too distance future.  Given they released no code/yield next year, I don't see why they don't continue doing that.    Only problem is that's Pearl Jam and they'll do it on Pearl Jam time :)
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Just fucking re-release the damn thing already 10club! 
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