RIP Chris Cornell

NoWay · May 2017

Chris' comments in Rolling Stone about Kurt and Andy poignantly summarizes how I feel right now:

"It was something in a way similar to losing Andy, or losing friends that died after that. It's not so much the person and the relationship with them, but the creative inspiration that person has and I would get from that person. My perception of the world of music at large artistically shrank, because suddenly this brilliant guy was gone. I'm not even talking about what he meant culturally; I'm talking about his creativity. It was super inspiring from the very first demo I ever heard. It broadened my mental picture of what the world was creatively, and suddenly a big chunk of it fell off."

OceansJenny · May 2017

shecky said:

rgambs said:

I really don't want to be disrespectful to Chris, his family, or his legacy, but I have had a nagging thought since the beginning of this terrible news.

Is it possible that it was an accident? I'm not explaining what I mean, some folks will get what I mean and some won't, but it just keeps circling the back of my mind and I haven't heard anyone else suggest it.
I don't judge what people do when they aren't hurting anyone else, so I don't see it as disrespectful, but I suppose some might.
It's just hard to wrap the mind around, scrambling for answer is a natural tendancy, but I guess it doesn't do a damn bit of good.

"Is it possible that it was an accident?"
Yes, that's been my belief all along.
It seems evident to me that Chris accidentally, and carelessly, took too many of his anti-anxiety pills.
Have you noticed on TV commercials for medications like this that, at the end of the ad when the announcer is hurriedly reading the possible side effects of the medication that, "thoughts of suicide" are mentioned?
To me, the worst part of this tragedy is that people are so sure that Chris committed suicide and he isn't able to defend himself.
I will always believe that his death was simply a horrible, horrible accident.

I'm going with accident too. Because it's what his wife thinks, and more selfishly because it makes me feel better. We will never know for sure though.

eeriepadave · May 2017

Seven years ago this happened, gives me goosebumps everytime i hear it, especially now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiTCmR1I9E

Peacefrog1975 · May 2017

I still can't believe this, it's just horrible.

3days · May 2017

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage.

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening.

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

OceansJenny · May 2017

3days said:

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage.

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening.

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

Thank you for sharing. I think Americans in particular are overly trusting of pharmaceuticals. We need to pay attention to what we put in our bodies and observe the effects like you did if you chose to use them. I am not saying Chris did anything wrong - I'm just commenting on pharmaceuticals and pharma companies, who do not have our health and lives as their primary concern.

bootlegger10 · May 2017

OceansJenny said:

3days said:

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage.

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening.

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

Thank you for sharing. I think Americans in particular are overly trusting of pharmaceuticals. We need to pay attention to what we put in our bodies and observe the effects like you did if you chose to use them. I am not saying Chris did anything wrong - I'm just commenting on pharmaceuticals and pharma companies, who do not have our health and lives as their primary concern.

I have been lucky to be pretty healthy during my life but my thought is to avoid taking any medication unless absolutely necessary.

AO253126 · May 2017

cp3iverson said:

I never understood the outrage at the Scream album. With a voice like that it would be a crime NOT to experiment with other genres. I didnt go back to it a lot but i always thought it was so interesting and that he should keep experimenting.

One hell of a gift. Such a cool guy. When i cut my hair in the mid 90s i used his new hairdo for inspiration lol.

I really liked Scream too and, in fact, it may be my favorite of his solo studio albums (so, not counting Songbook). I just thought that music really allowed his vocals to shine. I thought he was just as dark and badass on that album as on any Soundgarden or Audioslave record. Badass and dark, but somehow also vulnerable and self-reflective at the same time. The guy was just one of a kind. He was a great lyricist with a truly unique and incredible voice. And because it's silenced, I just want to go break something now..

lowbudgetlush · May 2017

3days said:

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage.

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening.

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

Everyone's different. I e been taking Ativan for 10 years when I fly. I'm fine. We don't know the whole story, we never will.

Wobbie · May 2017

Maggie_st said:

Singer songwritter "Nick Drake", commented suicide back in 1974. He captured depression in a song called "Black Eyed Dog". Winston Churchill who fought depression all his life call it the "Black Eyed Dog". I am 54 and have fought with depression everyday of my life. That Black Eyed Dog always walks by my side. Meds can help or hurt but depression is always with you, maybe the dog isn't right next to you, but it follows you. You can get to the point where you are just tired of "faking" of being ok to your friends and family. But you don't want to see the saddest and hurt or anger in their eyes. So you fake it. But if you are depressed that Black Eyed Dog is with you. Maybe Chris was just so absolutely tired of faking or fighting the Black Eyed Dog any longer. He only knows. My heart breaks for his family. Must be cruel to deal with. But I seem to be different from a lot of sympathy, I feel the must sorrow for Chris. He must of just got tired of fighting the
his Black Eyed Dog. To all us depressed people out there, you keep fighting that Black Eyed Dog and know there are 1000's of us walking the Black Eyed Dog with you. Hang on, get help and find something to hang on to.
Maggie

good thoughts to you, maggie. hang in!

Wobbie · May 2017

3days said:

I don't have the experience or the knowledge of Ativan that some people have, and I'm not writing this to demonize it's usage.

I took prescribed Ativan 3 times, over 1 week, about 10 years ago, to get through an important presentation. I took two small doses to see how it would affect me first, in the days leading up to the presentation. The day of, I took the fullest prescribed amount, 2 pills (can't remember the dosage). I felt confident based on the test runs earlier in the week.

The presentation went well, and I went home an hour afterward much relieved. Then things started to go bad. I began to feel increasingly rotten (mentally and physically). I felt cold all over, which makes sense. Lots of bad memories began to seep into my head; some were from childhood, and I hadn't thought about them in years. I was almost drunken drowsy, irrationally irritable and depressed. So, I went to bed (in the afternoon) angry, and with tears in my eyes.

I woke up 3 to 4 hours later foggy, but with a completely different attitude. I wasn't depressed, I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, and I was glad that the presentation was successful. I had dinner, and had a pleasant evening.

Needless to say, I decided that Ativan wasn't right for me.I guess I'm writing this as a caution. Despite having a good night's sleep, and experimenting per Dr's instruction, I had a bad experience with it. Doesn't mean that everyone does, or that it isn't useful, but be please be careful.

prescription drugs, in general, can definitely be questioned.

my "thing" is oxycontin....so destructive....why are doctors still prescribing it?

money???

lotsalemon · May 2017

OceansJenny said:

....I'm just commenting on pharmaceuticals and pharma companies, who do not have our health and lives as their primary concern.

I can tell you right now this is 100% not the case. I work for a major pharma company. There is a lot of work that goes into getting pharmaceuticals to the market. It's a labor of love. People that develop these drugs do it because they want to help people.

Don't get drawn into the conspiracy theories that big pharma has the cure for cancer but would rather sell pills than cure the world's health problems.

There are a lot of great drugs that have done the unimaginable. Helped people live comfortable, productive, normal lives. Everything has side effects. It comes with the territory. It's a risk you take, that you discuss with your physician - do the benefits outweigh the potential risks?

lotsalemon · May 2017

Wobbie said:
my "thing" is oxycontin....so destructive....why are doctors still prescribing it?
money???

It's prescribed because if used in it's intended manner, it helps the body heal.
Unfortunately many doctors will just throw a prescription to you if you complain of pain. That's on them. There are a lot of unethical doctors out there. And there's a lot of people who take advantage of these doctors.

eeriepadave · May 2017

Decent article. Always liked Richard Patrick and Filter. thought he had a similar style to Chris' voice.

http://loudwire.com/filters-richard-patrick-chris-cornell-saved-my-life/

ehbacon · May 2017

it still just seems like it can't be real. It just can't be real. I constantly think of him as being alive and then am harshly reminded that he's not. I've spent the better part of the last 72 hours reflecting on him and I just haven't come to terms with it all.

Also getting reintroduced to the emotions of having a very close friend pass in the same way, out of nowhere just like this. Emotions that I haven't felt in years have just come rushing back in the last few days. The whole thing is just so awful. I wish everyone close to him well on trying to find closure in this terrible situation, because in many cases it just never happens. I wish them the absolute best.

thispureamericanriot · May 2017

I wanted to highlight something in this difficult time - the sheer breadth of the discography Chris Cornell has left us. Most successful artists (if they're lucky) may have a great band and successful solo career: The Who/Pete Townshend, The Police/Sting, The Stooges/Iggy Pop, etc. Chris Cornell goes far beyond that template.

Soundgarden: Forefathers of a generation of great music coming from Seattle in 90's and beyond (everyone knows "Black Hole Sun")
Temple Of The Dog: Hunger Strike helped announce to a generation that great music could still be meaningful and collaborative. (Band #2)
Audioslave: Reborn - fronting Rage Against The Machine. Their first album is like listening to a greatest hits package. (Band #3)
Solo: James Bond theme success with "You Know My Name", "Seasons" from Singles, beautiful acoustic music.

That's FOUR major career arcs. In my book, only Neil Young and Prince come close to that type of output.

RIP brother.

OceansJenny · May 2017

lotsalemon said:

OceansJenny said:

....I'm just commenting on pharmaceuticals and pharma companies, who do not have our health and lives as their primary concern.

I can tell you right now this is 100% not the case. I work for a major pharma company. There is a lot of work that goes into getting pharmaceuticals to the market. It's a labor of love. People that develop these drugs do it because they want to help people.

Don't get drawn into the conspiracy theories that big pharma has the cure for cancer but would rather sell pills than cure the world's health problems.

There are a lot of great drugs that have done the unimaginable. Helped people live comfortable, productive, normal lives. Everything has side effects. It comes with the territory. It's a risk you take, that you discuss with your physician - do the benefits outweigh the potential risks?

I work in business. Pharma is about money. Yes I'm sure there are researchers that care but no major pharmaceutical company is going to back a drug that won't make them good money. Those pharma commercials we see over and over are not for the greater good of human health.

brianlux · May 2017

ehbacon said:

it still just seems like it can't be real. It just can't be real. I constantly think of him as being alive and then am harshly reminded that he's not. I've spent the better part of the last 72 hours reflecting on him and I just haven't come to terms with it all.

Also getting reintroduced to the emotions of having a very close friend pass in the same way, out of nowhere just like this. Emotions that I haven't felt in years have just come rushing back in the last few days. The whole thing is just so awful. I wish everyone close to him well on trying to find closure in this terrible situation, because in many cases it just never happens. I wish them the absolute best.

A very moving post, eh. I hope the coming days give you some peace. It's been a tough week for so many.

I've read every single post in this thread so far and I can't remember the last time I ever saw more love and pain all bundled up together in one place before. That says quite a lot right there.

tbergs · May 2017

Not trying to be rude, but can people just stop with the speculative guessing about what happened, especially as it relates to the "misadventure" comments. Speculating it was an accident is one thing, but taking it beyond that is disrespectful and unnecessary. I don't get why anyone would bring up such things. It's gossip unless something comes out otherwise. Have some respect. We're all obviously at a loss and looking for an answer, but unless we ever get one, these speculations are no better than that random stranger writer who tried to point out there were all these signs Chris exhibited during the concert that night.

Spiritual_Chaos · May 2017

tbergs said:

Not trying to be rude, but can people just stop with the speculative guessing about what happened, especially as it relates to the "misadventure" comments. Speculating it was an accident is one thing, but taking it beyond that is disrespectful and unnecessary. I don't get why anyone would bring up such things. It's gossip unless something comes out otherwise. Have some respect. We're all obviously at a loss and looking for an answer, but unless we ever get one, these speculations are no better than that random stranger writer who tried to point out there were all these signs Chris exhibited during the concert that night.

I agree 100%.

RIP Chris Cornell

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