Obamacare is a mess

Pre-existing conditions being covered is not insurance. 

That is your common sense translator.

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

Thought process brought to you by the far right.

"I know! Let's call it health insurance, rather than health care. Then the focus is on the insurance companies, and they get to make a ton of money, like all insurance companies. And when people expect to have their health care needs covered, we'll just tell them it's insurance so don't expect to get covered".

Meanwhile, in the rest of the sane world, it's called health care and people who get sick are covered, regardless of why they got sick. Because all of us eventually get sick, unless we just plain die first.

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

Thought process brought to you by the far right.

"I know! Let's call it health insurance, rather than health care. Then the focus is on the insurance companies, and they get to make a ton of money, like all insurance companies. And when people expect to have their health care needs covered, we'll just tell them it's insurance so don't expect to get covered".

Meanwhile, in the rest of the sane world, it's called health care and people who get sick are covered, regardless of why they got sick. Because all of us eventually get sick, unless we just plain die first.

Nobody has denied anyone health care.

unsung said:

dignin said:

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

 

Fiscally it makes more sense to do a regular oil change on your car than to wait for catastrophic engine failure when your engine seizes up.

Preventative health care is cheaper than emergency health care.

Having a healthy lifestyle is cheaper than that.

Yeah that's real fucking rich, what a fuckhead thing to say in a public forum where there are people who have children born with diseases and disabilities.
It doesn't matter to Unsung if it doesn't effect Unsung.

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

If you're going to compare to car insurance, then you know you're subsidizing others poor driving, right?

rgambs said:

unsung said:

dignin said:

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

 

Fiscally it makes more sense to do a regular oil change on your car than to wait for catastrophic engine failure when your engine seizes up.

Preventative health care is cheaper than emergency health care.

Having a healthy lifestyle is cheaper than that.

Yeah that's real fucking rich, what a fuckhead thing to say in a public forum where there are people who have children born with diseases and disabilities.
It doesn't matter to Unsung if it doesn't effect Unsung.

yeah, if i lived in the US, our family would eventually be homeless and my daughter would be dead. 

#MAGA

bootlegger10 said:

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

Thought process brought to you by the far right.

"I know! Let's call it health insurance, rather than health care. Then the focus is on the insurance companies, and they get to make a ton of money, like all insurance companies. And when people expect to have their health care needs covered, we'll just tell them it's insurance so don't expect to get covered".

Meanwhile, in the rest of the sane world, it's called health care and people who get sick are covered, regardless of why they got sick. Because all of us eventually get sick, unless we just plain die first.

Nobody has denied anyone health care.

What is the problem then if no one is denied healthcare?

Again, why should people subsidize poor life decisions of others?

Why should I be forced to pay for someone's cancer when they smoked for thirty years?

And don't give me the childhood illnesses either, I haven't heard anyone dispute that.

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

I am saying that by definition insurance can't cover pre-existing conditions.  Insurance is supposed to be used if necessary.  Do you use insurance on your car if the battery goes bad?  No, you don't.  You use insurance if you get in a wreck.  

Same goes for healthcare.  If I am going in for a checkup I should have to pay directly for it.  Insurance should be there for if you have an emergency or have a life threatening illness.

Should I have to subsidize a thirty year smoker because they got lung cancer?  What about someone who has severe diabetes because they weigh 400lbs?  

So saying that those with pre-existing problems should be covered by insurance is technically inaccurate.  Call it what it really is, a gift.

If you're going to compare to car insurance, then you know you're subsidizing others poor driving, right?

Car insurance isn't used for every single issue a car has, as I have already explained.