America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    rssesq said:

    Felony murder rule. If you and I rob Uncle Irving's liquor store and unc Irving pulls out a magnum and shoots and kills me or any bystander in thestore, YOU GET THE BODY not Irving

    Right, if the crime that someone is committing directly results in the deaths of accomplices or anyone else, the responsibility for those deaths is of the person/people committing the crime.
    It seems like it wouldn't fit the definition of 1st degree murder, though. Maybe more amt lawyers can chime in.
    I'm wondering if the fact that she has admitted to planning the burglaries and being that minors were involved carries some weight in those charges.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    dudeman said:

    josevolution said:

    Gun violence will always be part of our country it's just the way this country works guns are part of the fabric ...

    I'm afraid you're right.
    As long as gun rights don't trample any of my rights I say go at it own as many weapons as you feel the need too ...
    And that is exactly the idea.
    Whoa I can't believe I actually posted something that you agree on ..
    Well, people should be able to do what they want without govt permission and as long as they aren't harming others.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    dudeman said:

    josevolution said:

    Gun violence will always be part of our country it's just the way this country works guns are part of the fabric ...

    I'm afraid you're right.
    As long as gun rights don't trample any of my rights I say go at it own as many weapons as you feel the need too ...
    And that is exactly the idea.
    Whoa I can't believe I actually posted something that you agree on ..
    Well, people should be able to do what they want without govt permission and as long as they aren't harming others.
    What about when there's potential to harm others?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So pre-crime?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    So pre-crime?

    There's a bazillion laws as a result of the potential hazard that can result of the action. Should those be removed and we just wait until actual harm is done?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited April 2017
    Your argument opens a dangerous path to the total loss of liberty.

    I mean, you just want safety, right?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    Your argument opens a dangerous path to the total loss of liberty.

    I mean, you just want safety, right?

    It's your argument. I'm clarfying, because it looks like the logic in your argument doesn't pass the reality test. Again.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A win for the good guys, and in California of all places.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article142449644.html
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    A win for the good guys, and in California of all places.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article142449644.html

    If he was a Muslim with 500 guns, I wonder if it would've been linked?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well, odds are the govt probably would have provided said guns in some proxy war or program like fast and furious.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    Well, odds are the govt probably would have provided said guns in some proxy war or program like fast and furious.

    Odds are pro-gun people link articles about white guys with guns. Wonder why?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited April 2017
    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they so desire.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    Maybe it's because "blacks" are assumed to be included in the "American" category...Not sure why you are trying to segregate them...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    Maybe it's because "blacks" are assumed to be included in the "American" category...Not sure why you are trying to segregate them...
    I'm not segregating them, I'm seeing them be segregated. Maybe you can link the pro gun outrage to all the times a black guy is shot by a cop when he was a ligit concealed carry?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017
    "All the times"? You mean the one time? You're really reaching...I've never heard anyone state that they feel only white people should own firearms.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nra-internal-revolt-philando-castile-20160709-story.html
    Or
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/nra-members-furious-philando-castile/
    There is a couple articles about pro-gun people frustrated that the NRA did not do enough, though.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they so desire.



  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    However....

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