***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    Idris said:

    Idris said:

    Idris said:

    I do wanna see him go down in a big ball of fire sooner than later though !!

    So you want our leader to fail? Wow.
    He's already failing. It doesn't matter if we want it or not.
    Mmm, He's not been failing, Actually he's been GREAT for the country in many ways.

    I support keeping him for at least another 2 years. Lets see

    These are feeble troll attempts. Take notes from the other guys.
    Nope.

    And I don't know what's you problem. I've not been rude to you.

    That's much better.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317

    Idris said:

    Idris said:

    Idris said:

    I do wanna see him go down in a big ball of fire sooner than later though !!

    So you want our leader to fail? Wow.
    He's already failing. It doesn't matter if we want it or not.
    Mmm, He's not been failing, Actually he's been GREAT for the country in many ways.

    I support keeping him for at least another 2 years. Lets see

    These are feeble troll attempts. Take notes from the other guys.
    Nope.

    And I don't know what's you problem. I've not been rude to you.

    That's much better.
    Umm thank you?

  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,031
    Idris said:

    Idris said:

    I do wanna see him go down in a big ball of fire sooner than later though !!

    So you want our leader to fail? Wow.
    He's already failing. It doesn't matter if we want it or not.
    Mmm, He's not been failing, Actually he's been GREAT for the country in many ways.

    I support keeping him for at least another 2 years. Lets see

    Please enlighten us on how he's been great in many ways? Please, with facts not some bullshit claims made by the assclown Trump himself.
  • Magoo2Magoo2 Posts: 94
    2017
    Perhaps he will be deemed mentally incompetent as a result of paranoid delusional thoughts shared with the nation on twitter.
    No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead...
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    No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead...
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    2018
    I originally voted 2018....
    I may need to change that to 2017. What a shitshow.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-comey_us_58d01dd6e4b0be71dcf6e972?6o6&

    The Trump-Russia Story Has Only Just Begun (To Explode)

    Not since Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal peril.

    By Howard Fineman

    WASHINGTON ― Let’s step back for a minute and consider again what we saw Monday in a hearing room of the U.S. House.

    The director of the FBI, with the director of the National Security Agency agreeing at his side, in effect called the president of the United States a liar ― and, oh, by the way, the president’s 2016 campaign indeed is under investigation for allegedly having secretly teamed up with Russia to win the election.

    After two months of Donald J. Trump’s presidency and more than a year of his campaign, our political senses are so dulled by tumult that we can barely recognize history when we see it. Make no mistake. Monday’s hearing was all but unprecedented.

    Not since a White House aide named Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate committee in 1973 that President Richard Nixon had bugged his own Oval Office has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal jeopardy.


    Now we know for sure that, while no one “tapped” Trump’s phones, his campaign circle is in the gunsights of the FBI. The issue is whether Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose interference in the 2016 election is now an accepted fact, tried to rig the outcome with the knowledge or collusion of Team Trump.

    Foreign countries have meddled in U.S. politics from the founding of the republic. At the dawn of the 19th century, France and Britain fought what amounted to a proxy war between U.S. allies of the two countries. France and Britain aided opposite sites in the Civil War. German interests spread propaganda here to try to keep America from fighting in World War I and World War II. And of course, the Soviet Union infested the State Department and other portions of the U.S. government during the Cold War.

    But it is highly unlikely that a foreign government ever has been under investigation for direct ties to and direct ― and successful ― efforts to aid a presidential candidate, especially one now serving as president, and who has expressed such interest in better relations with the government under investigation.

    While Democrats probed FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Michael Rogers for evidence of links between Trump and Russia, Republicans sought to change the conversation by asking about leaks pertaining to Trump and Russia. Comey insisted he was concerned about the leaks, but seemed more eager to ominously deny comment on where the unauthorized disclosures were coming from.

    If Team Trump is found to be complicit in any way, leading figures in the campaign and in the White House would indeed become targets of law enforcement. The White House and its minions will howl about “FAKE NEWS” ― the president did so via Twitter Monday morning ― but even Fox was covering the House hearing.

    Which, in turn, means this story is just beginning. Here’s why:

    •“The Community.” That’s the reverent term of art that Rogers and Comey used Monday to describe the alphabet soup of agencies that handle national security and investigations of breaches. As Rogers and Comey described it, the entire “community” regards Russia as perhaps the leading global “adversary” of the U.S. What the two men did not say ― but clearly believe ― is that the allegations about the campaign could lead to deeper questions about Trump’s global game plan ― and whether that plan, presuming he has one, is itself a threat to national security. “The Community” is not going to give in or give up.

    •Wikileaks. The Community seethes at the mention of WikiLeaks, which Rogers and Comey said Russian hackers had used as a conduit for making compromising Democratic emails public. The Community wants to nail WikiLeaks, or a least make an example of forces who use it in this fashion.

    •Ukraine. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, and his longtime strong-arming of Ukraine politics, is now coming with a price as what’s left of Ukrainian nationalism fights a rear-guard action ― not in Kiev so much as in Washington. It is more than possible that Putin has been too cute by half, because independent Ukrainian investigators have dug into the record of Trump associates such as former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and are feeding the results to the American media and American agencies. Can Putin shut them down altogether? The more attention this gets in the U.S., the harder that will be.

    •FARA. It’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and judging from the opaque denials from Comey, it seems clear that the FBI is investigating violations of it by Manafort and by Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign adviser and, briefly, until he was ousted for lying about his Russia ties, national security adviser. Manafort worked with pro-Putin Ukrainians; Flynn took money from Russian television, effectively an arm of the Putin regime. White House spokesman Sean Spicer claimed Monday that Manafort had played a “limited” role in the campaign. That is a flat-out lie. Manafort ran the campaign from the spring of 2016 ― to the extent anyone could actually run it ― until after the GOP convention.

    •The Squeeze. If and when FBI agents get Manafort or Flynn in their vise, they will climb up the chain by turning targets into witnesses. What do Manafort and Flynn know about, say, Trump and his dealings with Russia? Probably a lot. And that it where things could go next, depending on what the FBI really has.

    •GOP. Republican leaders had the Russia story, and they are not eager to push the line that it is a good thing to be in bed with Putin. You haven’t ― and won’t ― see Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) getting in the way of the FBI freight train. They tend to agree that Russia is an enemy.

    •Comey. In the 2016, Comey may well have helped Trump by announcing that he had revived an investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private emails. Having zigged in one direction, he is now zagging in the other, after the fact. He has more than six years left in his term, and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon. He may be an umpire following one bad call with another, but he is not about to leave the field of play. And Comey made it clear Monday that he was speaking out with the approval of the Department of Justice – which means Attorney General Jeff Sessions. History buffs will hear the echoes of Watergate. Nixon sealed his own doom by demanding that Justice fire the man investigating him.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    my2hands said:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-comey_us_58d01dd6e4b0be71dcf6e972?6o6&

    The Trump-Russia Story Has Only Just Begun (To Explode)

    Not since Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal peril.

    By Howard Fineman

    WASHINGTON ― Let’s step back for a minute and consider again what we saw Monday in a hearing room of the U.S. House.

    The director of the FBI, with the director of the National Security Agency agreeing at his side, in effect called the president of the United States a liar ― and, oh, by the way, the president’s 2016 campaign indeed is under investigation for allegedly having secretly teamed up with Russia to win the election.

    After two months of Donald J. Trump’s presidency and more than a year of his campaign, our political senses are so dulled by tumult that we can barely recognize history when we see it. Make no mistake. Monday’s hearing was all but unprecedented.

    Not since a White House aide named Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate committee in 1973 that President Richard Nixon had bugged his own Oval Office has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal jeopardy.


    Now we know for sure that, while no one “tapped” Trump’s phones, his campaign circle is in the gunsights of the FBI. The issue is whether Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose interference in the 2016 election is now an accepted fact, tried to rig the outcome with the knowledge or collusion of Team Trump.

    Foreign countries have meddled in U.S. politics from the founding of the republic. At the dawn of the 19th century, France and Britain fought what amounted to a proxy war between U.S. allies of the two countries. France and Britain aided opposite sites in the Civil War. German interests spread propaganda here to try to keep America from fighting in World War I and World War II. And of course, the Soviet Union infested the State Department and other portions of the U.S. government during the Cold War.

    But it is highly unlikely that a foreign government ever has been under investigation for direct ties to and direct ― and successful ― efforts to aid a presidential candidate, especially one now serving as president, and who has expressed such interest in better relations with the government under investigation.

    While Democrats probed FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Michael Rogers for evidence of links between Trump and Russia, Republicans sought to change the conversation by asking about leaks pertaining to Trump and Russia. Comey insisted he was concerned about the leaks, but seemed more eager to ominously deny comment on where the unauthorized disclosures were coming from.

    If Team Trump is found to be complicit in any way, leading figures in the campaign and in the White House would indeed become targets of law enforcement. The White House and its minions will howl about “FAKE NEWS” ― the president did so via Twitter Monday morning ― but even Fox was covering the House hearing.

    Which, in turn, means this story is just beginning. Here’s why:

    •“The Community.” That’s the reverent term of art that Rogers and Comey used Monday to describe the alphabet soup of agencies that handle national security and investigations of breaches. As Rogers and Comey described it, the entire “community” regards Russia as perhaps the leading global “adversary” of the U.S. What the two men did not say ― but clearly believe ― is that the allegations about the campaign could lead to deeper questions about Trump’s global game plan ― and whether that plan, presuming he has one, is itself a threat to national security. “The Community” is not going to give in or give up.

    •Wikileaks. The Community seethes at the mention of WikiLeaks, which Rogers and Comey said Russian hackers had used as a conduit for making compromising Democratic emails public. The Community wants to nail WikiLeaks, or a least make an example of forces who use it in this fashion.

    •Ukraine. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, and his longtime strong-arming of Ukraine politics, is now coming with a price as what’s left of Ukrainian nationalism fights a rear-guard action ― not in Kiev so much as in Washington. It is more than possible that Putin has been too cute by half, because independent Ukrainian investigators have dug into the record of Trump associates such as former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and are feeding the results to the American media and American agencies. Can Putin shut them down altogether? The more attention this gets in the U.S., the harder that will be.

    •FARA. It’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and judging from the opaque denials from Comey, it seems clear that the FBI is investigating violations of it by Manafort and by Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign adviser and, briefly, until he was ousted for lying about his Russia ties, national security adviser. Manafort worked with pro-Putin Ukrainians; Flynn took money from Russian television, effectively an arm of the Putin regime. White House spokesman Sean Spicer claimed Monday that Manafort had played a “limited” role in the campaign. That is a flat-out lie. Manafort ran the campaign from the spring of 2016 ― to the extent anyone could actually run it ― until after the GOP convention.

    •The Squeeze. If and when FBI agents get Manafort or Flynn in their vise, they will climb up the chain by turning targets into witnesses. What do Manafort and Flynn know about, say, Trump and his dealings with Russia? Probably a lot. And that it where things could go next, depending on what the FBI really has.

    •GOP. Republican leaders had the Russia story, and they are not eager to push the line that it is a good thing to be in bed with Putin. You haven’t ― and won’t ― see Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) getting in the way of the FBI freight train. They tend to agree that Russia is an enemy.

    •Comey. In the 2016, Comey may well have helped Trump by announcing that he had revived an investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private emails. Having zigged in one direction, he is now zagging in the other, after the fact. He has more than six years left in his term, and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon. He may be an umpire following one bad call with another, but he is not about to leave the field of play. And Comey made it clear Monday that he was speaking out with the approval of the Department of Justice – which means Attorney General Jeff Sessions. History buffs will hear the echoes of Watergate. Nixon sealed his own doom by demanding that Justice fire the man investigating him.

    Nothing to see here. Except, maybe, brilliance.
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    2017
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    edited March 2017

    my2hands said:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-comey_us_58d01dd6e4b0be71dcf6e972?6o6&

    The Trump-Russia Story Has Only Just Begun (To Explode)

    Not since Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal peril.

    By Howard Fineman

    WASHINGTON ― Let’s step back for a minute and consider again what we saw Monday in a hearing room of the U.S. House.

    The director of the FBI, with the director of the National Security Agency agreeing at his side, in effect called the president of the United States a liar ― and, oh, by the way, the president’s 2016 campaign indeed is under investigation for allegedly having secretly teamed up with Russia to win the election.

    After two months of Donald J. Trump’s presidency and more than a year of his campaign, our political senses are so dulled by tumult that we can barely recognize history when we see it. Make no mistake. Monday’s hearing was all but unprecedented.

    Not since a White House aide named Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate committee in 1973 that President Richard Nixon had bugged his own Oval Office has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal jeopardy.


    Now we know for sure that, while no one “tapped” Trump’s phones, his campaign circle is in the gunsights of the FBI. The issue is whether Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose interference in the 2016 election is now an accepted fact, tried to rig the outcome with the knowledge or collusion of Team Trump.

    Foreign countries have meddled in U.S. politics from the founding of the republic. At the dawn of the 19th century, France and Britain fought what amounted to a proxy war between U.S. allies of the two countries. France and Britain aided opposite sites in the Civil War. German interests spread propaganda here to try to keep America from fighting in World War I and World War II. And of course, the Soviet Union infested the State Department and other portions of the U.S. government during the Cold War.

    But it is highly unlikely that a foreign government ever has been under investigation for direct ties to and direct ― and successful ― efforts to aid a presidential candidate, especially one now serving as president, and who has expressed such interest in better relations with the government under investigation.

    While Democrats probed FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Michael Rogers for evidence of links between Trump and Russia, Republicans sought to change the conversation by asking about leaks pertaining to Trump and Russia. Comey insisted he was concerned about the leaks, but seemed more eager to ominously deny comment on where the unauthorized disclosures were coming from.

    If Team Trump is found to be complicit in any way, leading figures in the campaign and in the White House would indeed become targets of law enforcement. The White House and its minions will howl about “FAKE NEWS” ― the president did so via Twitter Monday morning ― but even Fox was covering the House hearing.

    Which, in turn, means this story is just beginning. Here’s why:

    •“The Community.” That’s the reverent term of art that Rogers and Comey used Monday to describe the alphabet soup of agencies that handle national security and investigations of breaches. As Rogers and Comey described it, the entire “community” regards Russia as perhaps the leading global “adversary” of the U.S. What the two men did not say ― but clearly believe ― is that the allegations about the campaign could lead to deeper questions about Trump’s global game plan ― and whether that plan, presuming he has one, is itself a threat to national security. “The Community” is not going to give in or give up.

    •Wikileaks. The Community seethes at the mention of WikiLeaks, which Rogers and Comey said Russian hackers had used as a conduit for making compromising Democratic emails public. The Community wants to nail WikiLeaks, or a least make an example of forces who use it in this fashion.

    •Ukraine. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, and his longtime strong-arming of Ukraine politics, is now coming with a price as what’s left of Ukrainian nationalism fights a rear-guard action ― not in Kiev so much as in Washington. It is more than possible that Putin has been too cute by half, because independent Ukrainian investigators have dug into the record of Trump associates such as former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and are feeding the results to the American media and American agencies. Can Putin shut them down altogether? The more attention this gets in the U.S., the harder that will be.

    •FARA. It’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and judging from the opaque denials from Comey, it seems clear that the FBI is investigating violations of it by Manafort and by Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign adviser and, briefly, until he was ousted for lying about his Russia ties, national security adviser. Manafort worked with pro-Putin Ukrainians; Flynn took money from Russian television, effectively an arm of the Putin regime. White House spokesman Sean Spicer claimed Monday that Manafort had played a “limited” role in the campaign. That is a flat-out lie. Manafort ran the campaign from the spring of 2016 ― to the extent anyone could actually run it ― until after the GOP convention.

    •The Squeeze. If and when FBI agents get Manafort or Flynn in their vise, they will climb up the chain by turning targets into witnesses. What do Manafort and Flynn know about, say, Trump and his dealings with Russia? Probably a lot. And that it where things could go next, depending on what the FBI really has.

    •GOP. Republican leaders had the Russia story, and they are not eager to push the line that it is a good thing to be in bed with Putin. You haven’t ― and won’t ― see Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) getting in the way of the FBI freight train. They tend to agree that Russia is an enemy.

    •Comey. In the 2016, Comey may well have helped Trump by announcing that he had revived an investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private emails. Having zigged in one direction, he is now zagging in the other, after the fact. He has more than six years left in his term, and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon. He may be an umpire following one bad call with another, but he is not about to leave the field of play. And Comey made it clear Monday that he was speaking out with the approval of the Department of Justice – which means Attorney General Jeff Sessions. History buffs will hear the echoes of Watergate. Nixon sealed his own doom by demanding that Justice fire the man investigating him.

    Nothing to see here. Except, maybe, brilliance.
    “This will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed,” Comey told the intelligence panel, explaining that the investigation began in late July. He said he could not give a timeline or comment further on the matter but pledged to "follow the facts wherever they lead."

    Where the f#$% was your public statement back in July on this investigation, you self-serving a$$??
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    CM189191 said:

    my2hands said:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-comey_us_58d01dd6e4b0be71dcf6e972?6o6&

    The Trump-Russia Story Has Only Just Begun (To Explode)

    Not since Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal peril.

    By Howard Fineman

    WASHINGTON ― Let’s step back for a minute and consider again what we saw Monday in a hearing room of the U.S. House.

    The director of the FBI, with the director of the National Security Agency agreeing at his side, in effect called the president of the United States a liar ― and, oh, by the way, the president’s 2016 campaign indeed is under investigation for allegedly having secretly teamed up with Russia to win the election.

    After two months of Donald J. Trump’s presidency and more than a year of his campaign, our political senses are so dulled by tumult that we can barely recognize history when we see it. Make no mistake. Monday’s hearing was all but unprecedented.

    Not since a White House aide named Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate committee in 1973 that President Richard Nixon had bugged his own Oval Office has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal jeopardy.


    Now we know for sure that, while no one “tapped” Trump’s phones, his campaign circle is in the gunsights of the FBI. The issue is whether Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose interference in the 2016 election is now an accepted fact, tried to rig the outcome with the knowledge or collusion of Team Trump.

    Foreign countries have meddled in U.S. politics from the founding of the republic. At the dawn of the 19th century, France and Britain fought what amounted to a proxy war between U.S. allies of the two countries. France and Britain aided opposite sites in the Civil War. German interests spread propaganda here to try to keep America from fighting in World War I and World War II. And of course, the Soviet Union infested the State Department and other portions of the U.S. government during the Cold War.

    But it is highly unlikely that a foreign government ever has been under investigation for direct ties to and direct ― and successful ― efforts to aid a presidential candidate, especially one now serving as president, and who has expressed such interest in better relations with the government under investigation.

    While Democrats probed FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Michael Rogers for evidence of links between Trump and Russia, Republicans sought to change the conversation by asking about leaks pertaining to Trump and Russia. Comey insisted he was concerned about the leaks, but seemed more eager to ominously deny comment on where the unauthorized disclosures were coming from.

    If Team Trump is found to be complicit in any way, leading figures in the campaign and in the White House would indeed become targets of law enforcement. The White House and its minions will howl about “FAKE NEWS” ― the president did so via Twitter Monday morning ― but even Fox was covering the House hearing.

    Which, in turn, means this story is just beginning. Here’s why:

    •“The Community.” That’s the reverent term of art that Rogers and Comey used Monday to describe the alphabet soup of agencies that handle national security and investigations of breaches. As Rogers and Comey described it, the entire “community” regards Russia as perhaps the leading global “adversary” of the U.S. What the two men did not say ― but clearly believe ― is that the allegations about the campaign could lead to deeper questions about Trump’s global game plan ― and whether that plan, presuming he has one, is itself a threat to national security. “The Community” is not going to give in or give up.

    •Wikileaks. The Community seethes at the mention of WikiLeaks, which Rogers and Comey said Russian hackers had used as a conduit for making compromising Democratic emails public. The Community wants to nail WikiLeaks, or a least make an example of forces who use it in this fashion.

    •Ukraine. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, and his longtime strong-arming of Ukraine politics, is now coming with a price as what’s left of Ukrainian nationalism fights a rear-guard action ― not in Kiev so much as in Washington. It is more than possible that Putin has been too cute by half, because independent Ukrainian investigators have dug into the record of Trump associates such as former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and are feeding the results to the American media and American agencies. Can Putin shut them down altogether? The more attention this gets in the U.S., the harder that will be.

    •FARA. It’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and judging from the opaque denials from Comey, it seems clear that the FBI is investigating violations of it by Manafort and by Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign adviser and, briefly, until he was ousted for lying about his Russia ties, national security adviser. Manafort worked with pro-Putin Ukrainians; Flynn took money from Russian television, effectively an arm of the Putin regime. White House spokesman Sean Spicer claimed Monday that Manafort had played a “limited” role in the campaign. That is a flat-out lie. Manafort ran the campaign from the spring of 2016 ― to the extent anyone could actually run it ― until after the GOP convention.

    •The Squeeze. If and when FBI agents get Manafort or Flynn in their vise, they will climb up the chain by turning targets into witnesses. What do Manafort and Flynn know about, say, Trump and his dealings with Russia? Probably a lot. And that it where things could go next, depending on what the FBI really has.

    •GOP. Republican leaders had the Russia story, and they are not eager to push the line that it is a good thing to be in bed with Putin. You haven’t ― and won’t ― see Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) getting in the way of the FBI freight train. They tend to agree that Russia is an enemy.

    •Comey. In the 2016, Comey may well have helped Trump by announcing that he had revived an investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private emails. Having zigged in one direction, he is now zagging in the other, after the fact. He has more than six years left in his term, and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon. He may be an umpire following one bad call with another, but he is not about to leave the field of play. And Comey made it clear Monday that he was speaking out with the approval of the Department of Justice – which means Attorney General Jeff Sessions. History buffs will hear the echoes of Watergate. Nixon sealed his own doom by demanding that Justice fire the man investigating him.

    Nothing to see here. Except, maybe, brilliance.
    “This will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed,” Comey told the intelligence panel, explaining that the investigation began in late July. He said he could not give a timeline or comment further on the matter but pledged to "follow the facts wherever they lead."

    Where the f#$% was your public statement back in July on this investigation, you self-serving a$$??
    Buyer's remorse.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    Rep Maxine Waters in the House Committee on Financial Services tweets : " get ready for impeachment". Good times.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

    Serious question, is orange the new black?
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    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

    Serious question, is orange the new black?

    Bwahahaha
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited March 2017

    Rep Maxine Waters in the House Committee on Financial Services tweets : " get ready for impeachment". Good times.

    The biggest moron in the House who thought Russia invaded Korea.

    LOL.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.
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    Hey, by the way, has Hillary been locked up yet?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    The biggest? Not so sure.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    2019
    unsung said:

    Rep Maxine Waters in the House Committee on Financial Services tweets : " get ready for impeachment". Good times.

    The biggest moron in the House who thought Russia invaded Korea.

    LOL.
    Personally I can't stand Rep. Waters. I think she's a political moron. Biggest moron in congress though? I don't know. Steve King and Louie Gohmert keep raising the bar there to almost unreachable levels.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
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    unsung said:

    Rep Maxine Waters in the House Committee on Financial Services tweets : " get ready for impeachment". Good times.

    The biggest moron in the House who thought Russia invaded Korea.

    LOL.
    I wonder if you've accomplished as much for your community? Or compound?

    https://waters.house.gov/about-maxine/biography
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    2019
    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Oh come on, man. The birther movement was totally unfounded on any proof. You have to at least admit that the people around Trump (maybe not including the President at this point) have had a great deal of contact with Russia over the last couple of years and felt the need to lie about that relationship. That's no fire but it's at least smoke. There was no smoke to birther claims.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Because the FBI had investigations about Obamas birth certificate? For the love of god

    Conservatives level of denial is shocking
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    2018
    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Thanks for the laugh!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Triggered!
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    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Oh come on, man. The birther movement was totally unfounded on any proof. You have to at least admit that the people around Trump (maybe not including the President at this point) have had a great deal of contact with Russia over the last couple of years and felt the need to lie about that relationship. That's no fire but it's at least smoke. There was no smoke to birther claims.
    It is time to Move On.

    He isn't going to be impeached, at least not on the Russia conspiracy theory.

    Besides, what is wrong with being friends with them? Better than another Syrian war that leads to an invasion of refugees.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,586
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Oh come on, man. The birther movement was totally unfounded on any proof. You have to at least admit that the people around Trump (maybe not including the President at this point) have had a great deal of contact with Russia over the last couple of years and felt the need to lie about that relationship. That's no fire but it's at least smoke. There was no smoke to birther claims.
    It is time to Move On.

    He isn't going to be impeached, at least not on the Russia conspiracy theory.

    Besides, what is wrong with being friends with them? Better than another Syrian war that leads to an invasion of refugees.
    3 out of 10 on the troll scale. Woot!
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    2018
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Oh come on, man. The birther movement was totally unfounded on any proof. You have to at least admit that the people around Trump (maybe not including the President at this point) have had a great deal of contact with Russia over the last couple of years and felt the need to lie about that relationship. That's no fire but it's at least smoke. There was no smoke to birther claims.
    It is time to Move On.

    He isn't going to be impeached, at least not on the Russia conspiracy theory.

    Besides, what is wrong with being friends with them? Better than another Syrian war that leads to an invasion of refugees.
    No way in hell anyone will simply "move on" from this. Can't wait to see what the results are of all the ongoing investigations.

    Unlike the bullshit wiretap claims, there is much more to this. If you can't see that, your blind with either loyalty or fear.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    2019
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Keep laughing. All the way to impeachment.

    Your Russian and Trump desperation reeks worse than the birther movement.
    Oh come on, man. The birther movement was totally unfounded on any proof. You have to at least admit that the people around Trump (maybe not including the President at this point) have had a great deal of contact with Russia over the last couple of years and felt the need to lie about that relationship. That's no fire but it's at least smoke. There was no smoke to birther claims.
    It is time to Move On.

    He isn't going to be impeached, at least not on the Russia conspiracy theory.

    Besides, what is wrong with being friends with them? Better than another Syrian war that leads to an invasion of refugees.
    Being friends is fine. It doesn't help the perception angle, but whatever. I think you would find a great number of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle who would eventually like a better relationship with Russia. But when you and those around you are caught in lie after lie about that relationship- don't bitch when people start making what's going on. The press is being given every reason to ask questions by this administration.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    2018
    There is a pretty huge difference between being "friends" and the Russian government having extensive financial ties with the White House and at the same time influencing the federal election in favour of the people with whom they have those financial ties. Obviously. Being friends with Russia shouldn't actually mean that there is a river of private money flowing between the two governments so that it can and will impact foreign and domestic policy and leave the POTUS and his inner circle open to blackmail.
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