Is it rape???

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  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    F Me In The Brain said:

    RogueStoner said:

    I feel so guilty for not being able to prevent this. I saw it coming and I tried so hard. And having been through it myself, I still found myself feeling helpless towards her as she was telling me all about it and I remembered the feelings and saw the flashbacks. But despite all of that, I got through it, paid attention to her, got a list of resources to hit in the morning and I will see her through every step of the way. And I didn't shed a single fucking year for my own shit so I'm pretty damn proud right now!

    Proud that you are being a good friend...don't forget to take a minute (or 5) today to process your feelings about 'your own shit.'
    Crazy to hear a guy say this (right?) but pushing it down further ultimately doesn't work out as well as you might think. No reason you cannot call timeout for a bit to let some of that out.
    Good luck.
    Thanks. That's exactly what I told her...that she has to deal with this now or it will explode later. And I'm watching out for myself too. Too many people depend on me for me to fall apart.
  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    And no police. No rape kit. She's refusing everything and blaming herself of course. I can understand that so am working around it.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    RogueStoner said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    RogueStoner said:

    I feel so guilty for not being able to prevent this. I saw it coming and I tried so hard. And having been through it myself, I still found myself feeling helpless towards her as she was telling me all about it and I remembered the feelings and saw the flashbacks. But despite all of that, I got through it, paid attention to her, got a list of resources to hit in the morning and I will see her through every step of the way. And I didn't shed a single fucking year for my own shit so I'm pretty damn proud right now!

    Proud that you are being a good friend...don't forget to take a minute (or 5) today to process your feelings about 'your own shit.'
    Crazy to hear a guy say this (right?) but pushing it down further ultimately doesn't work out as well as you might think. No reason you cannot call timeout for a bit to let some of that out.
    Good luck.
    Thanks. That's exactly what I told her...that she has to deal with this now or it will explode later. And I'm watching out for myself too. Too many people depend on me for me to fall apart.
    Then take 30 minutes and process it like FME is suggesting. Close your eyes and breathe. You're doing what you can for this woman.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,020
    That's rape. Not an opinion. Only fact.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited February 2017
    Rape.

    And a mission for Team Slap.

    Chadwick, Hedonist, and myself will begin preparations to ready the Slap Van... commence to your locale... and administer a twin cheek slap with our patented kick to the balls.

    Maybe Scruffy wants to hop in and I can show him how to shoot someone with a rubber band (he's been practicing but he keeps snapping his thumb- he still can't ge the band moving off his thumb as a forward moving projectile).

    What a loser (the rapist... not Scruffy!).
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    SD and I have offered our services as Team Shiv. Perhaps we should go group trip? I can stop by Sam's Club on the way and buy a case of rubber bands for all of you. SD and I need plastic sheeting anyhow...
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Team Shiv and Team Slap - fucking yes and yes.

    It's sad that the initial question even needs to be posed. Answer - of course.

    I hope the fuckwad doesn't do this to other women...likely it's happened before. But, it's also sad that she's not pursuing his prosecution, even if for her own reasons. I hope she finds the strength and eventual clarity to get the help she seems to need.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    One has to be pretty twisted and demented to want to or actually have sex with an unconsious person. It's by far and certainly rape. I hope the young women can get some therapy especially since there doesn't appear that any justice will come forth in this case.

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    RogueStoner said:

    Sorry for the heavy subject but I'm curious on people's opinions....
    Here's the scenario:
    Woman spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two. He suggests stopping at a playground along the way. They lay down on the slide, continue kissing, as he tries to pull her pants off. She says no three times but then blacks out somewhat and the deed is done.
    Who considers that rape?

    Consent wasn't given so it's rape. When you're wasted or impaired, you CAN'T GIVE true consent. Rape.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    Counseling is the only confidential place one can report rape and not have to involve police or anyone else for that matter if the victim doesn't want to. Hand this off to the professionals IMO.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Absolutely, 110%, definite rape.

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  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    That's what I think too. She has no support from family, not even her parents or husband because they're Mormon and blame rape as the woman's fault. At least that's what they've taught her all her life.
    So, I'm seeking any resource I can find so that she can at least see a therapist immediately. Already took her to psychiatrist today. Of course she refused to disclose.
    My heart is just broken but I'll find her help somehow.
    And can I just add that the health care system and beaurocratic bullshit in this country suck!!!
  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    And thanks for the support everyone. The Slap Team, the Shiv Squad, and all the rest. :hug:
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    without a doubt, it's rape.

    thought about going to the police?

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  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    She will NOT go.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RogueStoner said:

    Sorry for the heavy subject but I'm curious on people's opinions....
    Here's the scenario:
    Woman spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two. He suggests stopping at a playground along the way. They lay down on the slide, continue kissing, as he tries to pull her pants off. She says no three times but then blacks out somewhat and the deed is done.
    Who considers that rape?

    IT IS RAPE. non consensual sex no matter how wasted you are is RAPE. this guy had sex with an unconscious person, hes a slimebag.

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    OP
    It is now your duty to report this.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    OP
    It is now your duty to report this.

    only with the girls permission.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    OP
    It is now your duty to report this.

    Fine. I'll bite.

    Are you arguing for legal or for moral duty? In either event, state your case. This is not the thread to troll in.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

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