Is it rape???

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    Venting about witnessing a rape? - report it other places that can help like the authorities.

    Shelving the rudeness? Perhaps a poster can stop using the word bite in response to a post by me like I am a troll.
    This is serious.

    And as for you saying this was rape, asked and answered you have a duty as well to bring this higher.

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    Venting about going through this, not witnessing. Pretty sure if it was seen it would've been stopped.

    And you know damn well that "I'll bite" was in no way meant as "bite me" or "bite that".

    Consider the source too. I tend to do that when weighing the sincerity (or lack thereof) in the posts of some.

    How about leaving the sense of doody (ha, I kill myself sometimes) duty aside. Maybe some compassion for what the OP is trying to navigate?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Fair enough and I hope the OP finds comfort from this thread.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    Venting about witnessing a rape? - report it other places that can help like the authorities.

    Shelving the rudeness? Perhaps a poster can stop using the word bite in response to a post by me like I am a troll.
    This is serious.

    And as for you saying this was rape, asked and answered you have a duty as well to bring this higher.

    Would that be a moral or a legal duty? I'm not sure that you've made that point clear yet.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited February 2017
    She is lucky having you as her friend, it must be very heavy to bear something like this alone.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 32,026
    It was from the "I need to make a contrarian/agitating post" duty on his part.
    Doodie, indeed.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    If the OP is suggesting they witnessed a duck they should report a duck.
    Not the thread to troll in? It is a thread asking if what they know of is rape or not.
    Bite that.

    Damn, man...really?

    It's pretty clear this was rape. Asked, answered.

    Not so much about what obligation the OP has - if any - though she's done (and is doing) much to try and help. Maybe venting here in the process. OK by me.

    And..."bite that"?

    Please shelve the rudeness.
    Venting about witnessing a rape? - report it other places that can help like the authorities.

    Shelving the rudeness? Perhaps a poster can stop using the word bite in response to a post by me like I am a troll.
    This is serious.

    And as for you saying this was rape, asked and answered you have a duty as well to bring this higher.

    She/they did not witness the rape. She was told about it later. I don't know that it makes a difference for you. Just thought you might want to know that. The OP and her husband DID NOT see the rape in action and walk away.
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  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    RogueStoner said:

    That's what I think too. She has no support from family, not even her parents or husband because they're Mormon and blame rape as the woman's fault. At least that's what they've taught her all her life.
    So, I'm seeking any resource I can find so that she can at least see a therapist immediately. Already took her to psychiatrist today. Of course she refused to disclose.
    My heart is just broken but I'll find her help somehow.
    And can I just add that the health care system and beaurocratic bullshit in this country suck!!!

    She's married?? Irrelevant in regards to being raped but im just trying to understand the story better.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Wma31394 said:

    RogueStoner said:

    That's what I think too. She has no support from family, not even her parents or husband because they're Mormon and blame rape as the woman's fault. At least that's what they've taught her all her life.
    So, I'm seeking any resource I can find so that she can at least see a therapist immediately. Already took her to psychiatrist today. Of course she refused to disclose.
    My heart is just broken but I'll find her help somehow.
    And can I just add that the health care system and beaurocratic bullshit in this country suck!!!

    She's married?? Irrelevant in regards to being raped but im just trying to understand the story better.
    It's relevant in that if her husband won't support her after being raped she needs to find a better one! But I guess that is a whole other issue, she is obviously very lucky to have OP as a friend!
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    Regardless of why she was out with the guy, rape is rape. The premise is strictly between her and her husband and warrants no excuse for the alleged crime.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Regardless of why she was out with the guy, rape is rape. The premise is strictly between her and her husband and warrants no excuse for the alleged crime.

    I acknowledged the same. I'm just pointing out the fact that if I was the husband... I wouldn't be too pleased she was out smooching guys at the bar. Maybe I'm old fashioned? Maybe this is acceptable conduct for marriage these days? It isn't in our household.

    I don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's a kick to the nuts for the husband- he's dealing with the rape and he's dealing with behaviour that isn't ideal (unless, as I said, that's cool in America).
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
    I never defended rape. Read more carefully.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited February 2017
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Regardless of why she was out with the guy, rape is rape. The premise is strictly between her and her husband and warrants no excuse for the alleged crime.

    I acknowledged the same. I'm just pointing out the fact that if I was the husband... I wouldn't be too pleased she was out smooching guys at the bar. Maybe I'm old fashioned? Maybe this is acceptable conduct for marriage these days? It isn't in our household.

    I don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's a kick to the nuts for the husband- he's dealing with the rape and he's dealing with behaviour that isn't ideal (unless, as I said, that's cool in America).
    The circumstances seem a bit confusing, I agree. I hope everything will solve for everyone in best way possible. And that the rapist get his punishment.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
    I never defended rape. Read more carefully.
    I never said that you did. Didn't mean it that way. Apologies to you.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
    I never defended rape. Read more carefully.
    I never said that you did. Didn't mean it that way. Apologies to you.
    No worries, DEP. Everything's a fucking argument with those frequent AMT posters.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    dankind said:

    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
    I never defended rape. Read more carefully.
    I never said that you did. Didn't mean it that way. Apologies to you.
    No worries, DEP. Everything's a fucking argument with those frequent AMT posters.
    You saw this as an argument? I saw it as clarification. You know... people communicating in written language in the hopes of better understanding.

    Nice judgement though.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    deadendp said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    It's kind of relevant in that she was flirting and cozying up to some shitbird.

    It's still rape, but if I'm the husband... I don't think I'm pleased that she "spends a night at a bar with a guy having a good time. She says it's time to go home and he offers to walk her. She's being flirty and they share a kiss or two."

    And occasionally people have open marriages. Still doesn't defend rape.
    I never defended rape. Read more carefully.
    I never said that you did. Didn't mean it that way. Apologies to you.
    All good. No apology necessary. Just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't condoning the act of rape given a possible minor indiscretion on the part of the victim prior to the event.

    I'm still up for slapping the guy.
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