NBA Thread now in 2015

xavier mcdaniel said:

Good for the Cavs for not doing that trade for now, but it could still happen if GM LeBron continues his influence. Though with what's going on with the Bulls, it might be possible Wade is traded.

GM Lebron screwed the Cavs when he pushed for the Cavs to sign Thomspon to that ridiculous contract for nothing more than a rebounder, and then spending too much on JR Smith. They would have been better spending the $$ to keep Delly, as now they have no playmakers when Lebron is off the court. They only have 2 players averaging more than 2 assists/game - Lebron and Irving.

mrussel1 said:

No Coder said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

Good for the Cavs for not doing that trade for now, but it could still happen if GM LeBron continues his influence. Though with what's going on with the Bulls, it might be possible Wade is traded.

GM Lebron screwed the Cavs when he pushed for the Cavs to sign Thomspon to that ridiculous contract for nothing more than a rebounder, and then spending too much on JR Smith. They would have been better spending the $$ to keep Delly, as now they have no playmakers when Lebron is off the court. They only have 2 players averaging more than 2 assists/game - Lebron and Irving.

No way. I watch them every night. Delly was good for the price but he's not worth the market price. Remember that Mo screwed us. He retired, ate up cap and left us without the backup pg.

I also think TT is awesome. Worth the money especially after next year's cap kicks in.

TT is worth $80 Mil?? When he offers NOTHING offensively and is not a particularly good defender (he's okay). Many better options than him for the $.
If you are going on value compared to next years cap, then Delly is underpriced and he played well for the Cavs and also filled a need, which they haven't been able to fill since they let him walk. Hell, even Tyler Johnson is getting $50 mil. Mo Williams was not the answer at backup PG anyway, yes he's eaten some cap, but that's what happens when you fill the bench with old guys.

I agree that a player doesn't have to have stats to have an impact, I just disagree that TT is that player. He can be a productive asset, BUT he's overpaid - that's my point.

mrussel1 said:

No Coder said:

I agree that a player doesn't have to have stats to have an impact, I just disagree that TT is that player. He can be a productive asset, BUT he's overpaid - that's my point.

He's so friggin young. Just scratchin' his potential. Just like Kyrie...

He's not old (26 in March), but he's been in the league long enough for the Cavs to have a decent measure of his skillset. This is his 6th year in the league and he has no outside shot, no real post up moves and only really scores on put backs, or alley oops. He's a poor version of DeAndre Jordan, who is also over valued, but at least offers a bit more. I'm constantly amazed that some these professional players are happy to stand pat and not develop more to their games - Dwight Howard is a prime example. Got by on freakish athletic ability, but never truly worked on go to moves or his shot in offense to make himself even better.

No doubting Kyrie's individual talent, fantastic one v one scorer and brilliant handles, he's in a different league to Thompson. I don't think he's in the top 5 PG's in the league, but he is still very good.

Jason P said:

Biggest problem is that a lot of average players got paid all-star money this past off season. Evan Turner is getting paid $70M to average 9 points a game.

Exactly. Basketball isn't really like football where it is value based. Average players get big money. Therefore it's not really big money relatively speaking. There really are a very few players that make an impact at their position. So you have to pay for it. You pay a power forward who can grab you 4 offensive rpg money like a good PG would get..

Damn the Warriors are kicking the shit out of the clips. West has 2 teams that matter. Warriors and Spurs.

Jason P said:

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

So it begins ...

Pathetic

Could be worse ....



But the seal has been cracked. Once other leagues see the profit they are missing out, it is on.

The NHL has already approved ads on sweaters with the new adidas deal. One small patch on a jersey - while I don't like the change of tradition - it isn't really that bothersome. Now, when ticket prices continue to increase when they are making more money off ad revenue, that's where I get pissed.
Perhaps if the NBA didn't go apeshit giving out max contracts to average and below average players, they wouldn't need ads on their shirts.

HesCalledDyer said:

Jason P said:

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

So it begins ...

Pathetic

Could be worse ....



But the seal has been cracked. Once other leagues see the profit they are missing out, it is on.

The NHL has already approved ads on sweaters with the new adidas deal. One small patch on a jersey - while I don't like the change of tradition - it isn't really that bothersome. Now, when ticket prices continue to increase when they are making more money off ad revenue, that's where I get pissed.
Perhaps if the NBA didn't go apeshit giving out max contracts to average and below average players, they wouldn't need ads on their shirts.

also next year-

HesCalledDyer said:

Today Gary Bettman stated the NHL won't follow the NBA's lead with ad patches on jerseys.

Ironically they could use the $

Jason P said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Today Gary Bettman stated the NHL won't follow the NBA's lead with ad patches on jerseys.

Ironically they could use the $

That is shocking. Maybe they think it would hurt jersey sales cause the NHL moves a shit ton of sweaters. Only 13 year olds and weirdos actually walk around in NBA jerseys.

I think any adult wearing a jersey that isn't at the actual event is bizarre. And even at the event I think it's a little off.