Israeli Apartheid

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-caught-on-camera-plotting-to-take-down-uk-mps

    Truly shocking.

    Israeli diplomat caught on camera plotting to 'take down' UK MPs
    Shai Masot is recorded discussing how to discredit MPs in comments described by Israeli embassy as ‘unacceptable’
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    JC29856 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-caught-on-camera-plotting-to-take-down-uk-mps

    Truly shocking.

    Israeli diplomat caught on camera plotting to 'take down' UK MPs
    Shai Masot is recorded discussing how to discredit MPs in comments described by Israeli embassy as ‘unacceptable’

    Drowned weighed in on that right before your post,
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    So Cold Play just announced a show in the West Bank...for peace and unity.
    Interesting. Hope it goes well. But my money says it gets cancelled by Israel due to 'security concerns'.....
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Drowned Out said:

    So Cold Play just announced a show in the West Bank...for peace and unity.
    Interesting. Hope it goes well. But my money says it gets cancelled by Israel due to 'security concerns'.....

    wow... will the show be in Israel or Palestine?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Oh it's allllll Israel. :wink:

    Via consequence of sound, via times of Israel, via stereogum:
    the shows are scheduled for November 3rd and 4th in an undisclosed “outdoor location north of the Dead Sea.” That could place them in the highly disputed West Bank territory


    It would have to be in the West Bank if they want both peoples to be able to attend...otherwise it's a farce. We shall see...
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Drowned Out said:

    Oh it's allllll Israel. :wink:

    Via consequence of sound, via times of Israel, via stereogum:
    the shows are scheduled for November 3rd and 4th in an undisclosed “outdoor location north of the Dead Sea.” That could place them in the highly disputed West Bank territory


    It would have to be in the West Bank if they want both peoples to be able to attend...otherwise it's a farce. We shall see...

    The 2 piece solution options to ensure peace:
    2 entrances, Israelis no tickets needed all paid for by US taxpayers, no security, no checkpoints, seat located where ever they like to sit or stand, Palestinians tickets cost 175,000 dinar, 3 checkpoints and body cavity search, seat location start 150 yards behind stage
    2 concessions, Israeli all you can eat and drink all paid for by US taxpayers, Palestinians are limited to 10oz of water and 250 calories or 10% of their allowable daily limit set by Israel
  • rssesq
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    JC29856 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Oh it's allllll Israel. :wink:

    Via consequence of sound, via times of Israel, via stereogum:
    the shows are scheduled for November 3rd and 4th in an undisclosed “outdoor location north of the Dead Sea.” That could place them in the highly disputed West Bank territory


    It would have to be in the West Bank if they want both peoples to be able to attend...otherwise it's a farce. We shall see...

    The 2 piece solution options to ensure peace:
    2 entrances, Israelis no tickets needed all paid for by US taxpayers, no security, no checkpoints, seat located where ever they like to sit or stand, Palestinians tickets cost 175,000 dinar, 3 checkpoints and body cavity search, seat location start 150 yards behind stage
    2 concessions, Israeli all you can eat and drink all paid for by US taxpayers, Palestinians are limited to 10oz of water and 250 calories or 10% of their allowable daily limit set by Israel
    and brought to you exclusively by Irving Azoff and Live Nation with Ticketmaster as the monopolistic provider of the Palestinian's tickets. 175,000 dinar plus the usual 200,000 convenience tax . lmao

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Now ISIS calls in their air force, Israel to bomb Damascus.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Israel must think it's possible to construct rockets from fish and olives.

    http://english.wafa.ps/page.aspx?id=HxcyZea52111332009aHxcyZe

    https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=774942
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Would MLK support Israel or condemn her? Would be for or against BDS?

    http://m.democracynow.org/stories/17003
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017



    Just another day in Palestinian villages where Israelis come to bulldoze Palestinian homes.

    Now back to real racism bigotry and illegitimacy!
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:

    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.

    There is no peace process. It's done and it's not Trump's job to restart it. The new policy will be a security process. You will not like it but it is the new reality.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    Palestinians sneaking rockets in!

  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited January 2017
    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.

    There is no peace process. It's done and it's not Trump's job to restart it. The new policy will be a security process. You will not like it but it is the new reality.
    'A security process'? Please define.

    If the peace process is dead (and I tend to agree that it is), then there will be no Palestinian state. Do you support:

    citizenship and equal rights for all non-Jewish peoples living within the borders of Israel AND the lands allocated to the Palestinians (gaza and West Bank) in a single state?

    apartheid, with different laws and rights for non-Jews?

    ethnic cleansing of the region to rid it of non-Jews?

    Because those are the three choices you are left with....
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.

    There is no peace process. It's done and it's not Trump's job to restart it. The new policy will be a security process. You will not like it but it is the new reality.
    'A security process'? Please define.

    If the peace process is dead (and I tend to agree that it is), then there will be no Palestinian state. Do you support:

    citizenship and equal rights for all non-Jewish peoples living within the borders of Israel AND the lands allocated to the Palestinians (gaza and West Bank) in a single state?

    apartheid, with different laws and rights for non-Jews?

    ethnic cleansing of the region to rid it of non-Jews?

    Because those are the three choices you are left with....
    Those are not the three choices I am left with. You forgot the status quo. Combine that with a focus on security. Ignore all else until a partner for peace arises. Your definition of apartheid will not be accepted.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,256
    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.

    There is no peace process. It's done and it's not Trump's job to restart it. The new policy will be a security process. You will not like it but it is the new reality.
    'A security process'? Please define.

    If the peace process is dead (and I tend to agree that it is), then there will be no Palestinian state. Do you support:

    citizenship and equal rights for all non-Jewish peoples living within the borders of Israel AND the lands allocated to the Palestinians (gaza and West Bank) in a single state?

    apartheid, with different laws and rights for non-Jews?

    ethnic cleansing of the region to rid it of non-Jews?

    Because those are the three choices you are left with....
    Those are not the three choices I am left with. You forgot the status quo. Combine that with a focus on security. Ignore all else until a partner for peace arises. Your definition of apartheid will not be accepted.
    What a typical BS answer. Slickery!
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  • Drowned Out
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    But wait...I thought the peace process was dead? Now you're saying it's on hold, and that's all on the Palesitinians. Whatever allows you to slip around the question....

    By most estimates, Gaza will be uninhabitable by 2020. Palestinians in the West Bank live under apartheid conditions, with separate laws and rights. The status quo is a combination of 2 (West Bank), and 3 (Gaza)....doesn't really matter what you accept.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    "Settlements"

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/fire-bulldozers-says-trumps-biggest-fan-jerusalem

    Trump could potentially be a complete disaster for Israel Palestinian relations. Let's hope some of his pro peace top advisors keep him in check.

    There is no peace process. It's done and it's not Trump's job to restart it. The new policy will be a security process. You will not like it but it is the new reality.
    'A security process'? Please define.

    If the peace process is dead (and I tend to agree that it is), then there will be no Palestinian state. Do you support:

    citizenship and equal rights for all non-Jewish peoples living within the borders of Israel AND the lands allocated to the Palestinians (gaza and West Bank) in a single state?

    apartheid, with different laws and rights for non-Jews?

    ethnic cleansing of the region to rid it of non-Jews?

    Because those are the three choices you are left with....
    Those are not the three choices I am left with. You forgot the status quo. Combine that with a focus on security. Ignore all else until a partner for peace arises. Your definition of apartheid will not be accepted.
    What a typical BS answer. Slickery!
    You know it!
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Drowned Out said:

    But wait...I thought the peace process was dead? Now you're saying it's on hold, and that's all on the Palesitinians. Whatever allows you to slip around the question....

    By most estimates, Gaza will be uninhabitable by 2020. Palestinians in the West Bank live under apartheid conditions, with separate laws and rights. The status quo is a combination of 2 (West Bank), and 3 (Gaza)....doesn't really matter what you accept.

    It's dead as there is no partner for peace. If one arrives it can be revived. Those are not inconsistent positions. You are correct that the burden is on the Palestinians however. Your statements on Gaza and the West Bank are irrelevant as security needs come first when you have a radical islamic rejectionist opposition. That is what I call a security process.

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