Israeli Apartheid

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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    I guess it's dangerous to be critical of Israel even if the lead singer of the band has been.
    benjs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    What happened to Byrnzie? I use to really enjoy reading his post. Hope he's still floating around here.

    I believe he and Nart (badbrains) were banned. I miss the input both of them had to contribute.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    rssesq said:

    I guess it's dangerous to be critical of Israel even if the lead singer of the band has been.

    benjs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    What happened to Byrnzie? I use to really enjoy reading his post. Hope he's still floating around here.

    I believe he and Nart (badbrains) were banned. I miss the input both of them had to contribute.
    No, it's dangerous to be disrespectful to members of an online forum, on a moderated online forum, when the moderators expect a base level of decorum and respect. Similarly, if you're a stranger who's welcomed into my house for an open discussion on topic X, and resort to ad hominem attacks on those around you instead of reasonable debate on the topic, I will probably ask you to leave my house. I wish those two stayed focused on the topics more often, as their input was invaluable and I learnt a ton from them.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Plural past tense of wear, exponentially!

    Ayotte, Graham, and McCain calling for $1.5 billion more military assistance for Israel.
    All 3 pushed to cut SNAP for the poor!
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    JC29856 said:

    Plural past tense of wear, exponentially!

    Ayotte, Graham, and McCain calling for $1.5 billion more military assistance for Israel.
    All 3 pushed to cut SNAP for the poor!

    Really clever. How many times has referring to people as whores given you an ounce of respect, or the results you're after?
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Why Are We Sending $38 Billion to Rich and Powerful Israel?
    -Ron Paul

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/september/19/why-are-we-sending-38-billion-to-rich-and-powerful-israel/
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    "The US Congress is occupied Israeli territory." Pat Buchanan.
    never a truer statement. I really miss the McLaughlin Report.
    tonifig8 said:

    Why Are We Sending $38 Billion to Rich and Powerful Israel?
    -Ron Paul

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/september/19/why-are-we-sending-38-billion-to-rich-and-powerful-israel/

  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-slams-israeli-bill-legalize-wildcat-settlements-224208420.html
    #THUGLIFE
    badbrains said:

    Yup, it's not occupation or genocide or land grab or anything like that at all. This article is embarrassing for Israel and shameful. This is how low that government has become. Real shame.

    http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k+cOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO+i1s7Y79SyI3ZdE0yjKboXzbn87u36U2FEgOgUTGgtlsfBuyDTqOgHsf56o9xHEtftRh/fID1arobHe8GIoesI2C0dA9y26xcD5isXEIvohgIBos=

  • ajedigecko
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    Kasim Hafeez.....hit the bottom to find the truth.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016
    I wonder why this brave young women cant speak in the US

    image

    15-year-old Palestinian girl denied visa for US speaking tour
    Fig Tree blog 18 Dec by Richard Edmondson — Ahed Tamimi was slated to be part of the No Child Behind Bars/Living Resistance speaking tour that is to tour the US beginning on January 15, 2017, but according to an email sent out yesterday by the Friends of Sabeel North America (FOSNA), she has been denied a visa to enter the country. I guess the thinking at the State Department is that anyone who bunches their fist and shakes it in the face of an Israeli soldier must be a terrorist. Of course it isn’t difficult in the least to figure out why the Israeli government would prefer not to have someone like Ahed–described by FOSNA as “charismatic and articulate”–going from city to city in America discussing the brutal injustices she and others her age are subjected to on continuing daily basis. It would take a fair bit of mainstream media bellowing about “Hamas rockets” to offset the public relations disaster. But the tour, it seems, will proceed anyway, and even though Ahed will not be here physically, plans nonetheless are being made to link her to US audiences via live-stream video … The email from FOSNA:….
    https://richardedmondson.net/2016/12/18/15-year-old-palestinian-girl-denied-visa-for-us-speaking-tour/

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/#sthash.mvj7Edl0.dpuf
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:

    I wonder why this brave young women cant speak in the US

    image

    15-year-old Palestinian girl denied visa for US speaking tour
    Fig Tree blog 18 Dec by Richard Edmondson — Ahed Tamimi was slated to be part of the No Child Behind Bars/Living Resistance speaking tour that is to tour the US beginning on January 15, 2017, but according to an email sent out yesterday by the Friends of Sabeel North America (FOSNA), she has been denied a visa to enter the country. I guess the thinking at the State Department is that anyone who bunches their fist and shakes it in the face of an Israeli soldier must be a terrorist. Of course it isn’t difficult in the least to figure out why the Israeli government would prefer not to have someone like Ahed–described by FOSNA as “charismatic and articulate”–going from city to city in America discussing the brutal injustices she and others her age are subjected to on continuing daily basis. It would take a fair bit of mainstream media bellowing about “Hamas rockets” to offset the public relations disaster. But the tour, it seems, will proceed anyway, and even though Ahed will not be here physically, plans nonetheless are being made to link her to US audiences via live-stream video … The email from FOSNA:….
    https://richardedmondson.net/2016/12/18/15-year-old-palestinian-girl-denied-visa-for-us-speaking-tour/

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/#sthash.mvj7Edl0.dpuf

    Well I'm not sure why the Obama Administration denied her a visa but I'm pretty sure they don't just hand them out based on political theater requests. Either way the President-Elect is setting the ground rules for future negotiations on the peace process

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2610236

    Time to put theater aside
  • JC29856
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    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I wonder why this brave young women cant speak in the US

    image

    15-year-old Palestinian girl denied visa for US speaking tour
    Fig Tree blog 18 Dec by Richard Edmondson — Ahed Tamimi was slated to be part of the No Child Behind Bars/Living Resistance speaking tour that is to tour the US beginning on January 15, 2017, but according to an email sent out yesterday by the Friends of Sabeel North America (FOSNA), she has been denied a visa to enter the country. I guess the thinking at the State Department is that anyone who bunches their fist and shakes it in the face of an Israeli soldier must be a terrorist. Of course it isn’t difficult in the least to figure out why the Israeli government would prefer not to have someone like Ahed–described by FOSNA as “charismatic and articulate”–going from city to city in America discussing the brutal injustices she and others her age are subjected to on continuing daily basis. It would take a fair bit of mainstream media bellowing about “Hamas rockets” to offset the public relations disaster. But the tour, it seems, will proceed anyway, and even though Ahed will not be here physically, plans nonetheless are being made to link her to US audiences via live-stream video … The email from FOSNA:….
    https://richardedmondson.net/2016/12/18/15-year-old-palestinian-girl-denied-visa-for-us-speaking-tour/

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/#sthash.mvj7Edl0.dpuf

    Well I'm not sure why the Obama Administration denied her a visa but I'm pretty sure they don't just hand them out based on political theater requests. Either way the President-Elect is setting the ground rules for future negotiations on the peace process

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2610236

    Time to put theater aside
    Was Hamas rockets the trigger?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    Don't bother, better you just use these triggers:
    Rockets raining
    Human shields
    Right to defend
    Wipe Israel
    Special relationship
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    What you call "sucking Israeli ass" others call "standing up for a democratic ally". If you advocate for boycotts don't be suprised when someone turns around and boycotts the speakers you wish to hear from. You cannot have it both ways.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    Don't bother, better you just use these triggers:
    Rockets raining
    Human shields
    Right to defend
    Wipe Israel
    Special relationship
    See!
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Well there you go...

    http://thehill.com/policy/international/311678-un-passes-resolution-calling-for-end-to-israeli-settlements

    The AMT now has the Democratic Party it wants.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    Well there you go...

    http://thehill.com/policy/international/311678-un-passes-resolution-calling-for-end-to-israeli-settlements

    The AMT now has the Democratic Party it wants.

    Sometimes you get a treble hook on the trigger rig!
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I wonder why this brave young women cant speak in the US

    image

    15-year-old Palestinian girl denied visa for US speaking tour
    Fig Tree blog 18 Dec by Richard Edmondson — Ahed Tamimi was slated to be part of the No Child Behind Bars/Living Resistance speaking tour that is to tour the US beginning on January 15, 2017, but according to an email sent out yesterday by the Friends of Sabeel North America (FOSNA), she has been denied a visa to enter the country. I guess the thinking at the State Department is that anyone who bunches their fist and shakes it in the face of an Israeli soldier must be a terrorist. Of course it isn’t difficult in the least to figure out why the Israeli government would prefer not to have someone like Ahed–described by FOSNA as “charismatic and articulate”–going from city to city in America discussing the brutal injustices she and others her age are subjected to on continuing daily basis. It would take a fair bit of mainstream media bellowing about “Hamas rockets” to offset the public relations disaster. But the tour, it seems, will proceed anyway, and even though Ahed will not be here physically, plans nonetheless are being made to link her to US audiences via live-stream video … The email from FOSNA:….
    https://richardedmondson.net/2016/12/18/15-year-old-palestinian-girl-denied-visa-for-us-speaking-tour/

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/#sthash.mvj7Edl0.dpuf

    Well I'm not sure why the Obama Administration denied her a visa but I'm pretty sure they don't just hand them out based on political theater requests. Either way the President-Elect is setting the ground rules for future negotiations on the peace process

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2610236

    Time to put theater aside
    Political theatre? So a speaking tour is political theatre.....ok.
    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    What you call "sucking Israeli ass" others call "standing up for a democratic ally". If you advocate for boycotts don't be suprised when someone turns around and boycotts the speakers you wish to hear from. You cannot have it both ways.
    Big difference between a voluntary boycott by private citizens, and government members advocating to quell free speech at a public institution, without a mandate from their constituents, in order to score political points with an extremist lobby group.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    What you call "sucking Israeli ass" others call "standing up for a democratic ally". If you advocate for boycotts don't be suprised when someone turns around and boycotts the speakers you wish to hear from. You cannot have it both ways.
    I call it supporting an apartheid state but that's just me.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I wonder why this brave young women cant speak in the US

    image

    15-year-old Palestinian girl denied visa for US speaking tour
    Fig Tree blog 18 Dec by Richard Edmondson — Ahed Tamimi was slated to be part of the No Child Behind Bars/Living Resistance speaking tour that is to tour the US beginning on January 15, 2017, but according to an email sent out yesterday by the Friends of Sabeel North America (FOSNA), she has been denied a visa to enter the country. I guess the thinking at the State Department is that anyone who bunches their fist and shakes it in the face of an Israeli soldier must be a terrorist. Of course it isn’t difficult in the least to figure out why the Israeli government would prefer not to have someone like Ahed–described by FOSNA as “charismatic and articulate”–going from city to city in America discussing the brutal injustices she and others her age are subjected to on continuing daily basis. It would take a fair bit of mainstream media bellowing about “Hamas rockets” to offset the public relations disaster. But the tour, it seems, will proceed anyway, and even though Ahed will not be here physically, plans nonetheless are being made to link her to US audiences via live-stream video … The email from FOSNA:….
    https://richardedmondson.net/2016/12/18/15-year-old-palestinian-girl-denied-visa-for-us-speaking-tour/

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/#sthash.mvj7Edl0.dpuf

    Well I'm not sure why the Obama Administration denied her a visa but I'm pretty sure they don't just hand them out based on political theater requests. Either way the President-Elect is setting the ground rules for future negotiations on the peace process

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2610236

    Time to put theater aside
    Political theatre? So a speaking tour is political theatre.....ok.
    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    A speaking tour is Political theatre? BullShit.
    Canada is no better. The theatre comes from asshole politicans like Jason Kenney sucking Israeli ass by pushing bans on bds at Canadian universities, and pushing (sometimes successfully) for activists/politicians/professors like George Galloway and Norman finkelstein to be denied entry to the country.

    What you call "sucking Israeli ass" others call "standing up for a democratic ally". If you advocate for boycotts don't be suprised when someone turns around and boycotts the speakers you wish to hear from. You cannot have it both ways.
    Big difference between a voluntary boycott by private citizens, and government members advocating to quell free speech at a public institution, without a mandate from their constituents, in order to score political points with an extremist lobby group.
    Intellectual!

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