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Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
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Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
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Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.
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Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters... Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.
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Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters... Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.
Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.
It really doesn't matter. We don't negotiate with terrorists anyways.
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Wow....Assange says he will serve time in prison if Obama grants Manning clemency.
Not many humans walking the earth would offer that exchange, especially knowing the broomsticks that are literally waiting for his ass.
Sounds like. Assange is ready for the broomsticks.
Assange attorney: Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."
as was noted above Clemency isnt commutation. Which is what Assange was "trading" for. Still she has a long 4 months ahead of her. lets try to keep some of the focus there.
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Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he needs to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.
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Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.
Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutation
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Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.
Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutation
Well of course that's what he said, but just wondering if it actually was (FTR, I seriously doubt it). At any rate, apparently Assange is backing out of the deal. Again. Lol.
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Assange is making this about him. Like a good luttle narcissist.
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She is released but is still unpaid active duty pending appeal of courts martial. access to most services (medical, dental on base stores etc). assigned to an undisclosed base.
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She is released but is still unpaid active duty pending appeal of courts martial. access to most services (medical, dental on base stores etc). assigned to an undisclosed base.
well at least she is out. i had a feeling trump et al would have sought additional charges or tried to find a way to keep her locked up.
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Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.
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Assange attorney:
Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."
Still she has a long 4 months ahead of her. lets try to keep some of the focus there.
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At any rate, apparently Assange is backing out of the deal. Again. Lol.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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