Bradley Manning and the stench of US hypocrisy
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You forgot.... "loser and overrated "Halifax2TheMax said:How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!
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My bad.Bentleyspop said:
You forgot.... "loser and overrated "Halifax2TheMax said:How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!
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If he was smart he would keep the word treason on the downlow considering his circumstances. But we all know Trump isn't smart.Halifax2TheMax said:How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!
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Your move Julian0
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He probably isn't familiar with that word because it contains his least favorite word, reason.dignin said:
If he was smart he would keep the word treason on the downlow considering his circumstances. But we all know Trump isn't smart.Halifax2TheMax said:How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!
It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
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Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.mickeyrat said:
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
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Details!!!! Definitions!!!!EM194007 said:
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.mickeyrat said:
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
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Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon0 -
Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.CM189191 said:
Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon0 -
heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters...EM194007 said:
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.mickeyrat said:
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15130B?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=587ea32004d3017f13759670&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebookPost edited by mickeyrat on_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Didn't he specifically state a Pardon, not just released by Commutation.mickeyrat said:
heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters...EM194007 said:
Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.mickeyrat said:
Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15130B?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=587ea32004d3017f13759670&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
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It really doesn't matter. We don't negotiate with terrorists anyways.EM194007 said:
Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.CM189191 said:
Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon0 -
Sounds like. Assange is ready for the broomsticks.JC29856 said:Wow....Assange says he will serve time in prison if Obama grants Manning clemency.
Not many humans walking the earth would offer that exchange, especially knowing the broomsticks that are literally waiting for his ass.
Assange attorney:
Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."0 -
as was noted above Clemency isnt commutation. Which is what Assange was "trading" for.JC29856 said:
Sounds like. Assange is ready for the broomsticks.JC29856 said:Wow....Assange says he will serve time in prison if Obama grants Manning clemency.
Not many humans walking the earth would offer that exchange, especially knowing the broomsticks that are literally waiting for his ass.
Assange attorney:
Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."
Still she has a long 4 months ahead of her. lets try to keep some of the focus there._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he needs to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.CM189191 said:
Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
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Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutationPJ_Soul said:
Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.CM189191 said:
Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon0 -
Well of course that's what he said, but just wondering if it actually was (FTR, I seriously doubt it).CM189191 said:
Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutationPJ_Soul said:
Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night.CM189191 said:
Not really...EM194007 said:
Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.CM189191 said:Your move Julian
Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
At any rate, apparently Assange is backing out of the deal. Again. Lol.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Assange is making this about him. Like a good luttle narcissist._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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