NASCAR and Eddie Vedder
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#1--Do you decide what's a sport? If so, I hope you keep us up to date with your findings on all sports that are on the "bubble." (Curling, Table Tennis, Bowling, etc....also...what do you think of the X Games?)joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
#2--Most everything we do as a species is bad for the environment. I drive a dual exhaust V6 SUV, for example. Does that mean that my efforts to recycle are pointless?
#3--I'd love to see the data on that. For example, my father in law loves Nascar....and he sure as hell didn't vote for Trump.
#4--Again, would love to see data. Crime statistics? Police reports?
#5--More stereotypes. Unreal.
#6--I'd say it's a little bit different than watching paint dry. I've yet to see 2 pain cans zipping around a Home Depot at 100+ MPH and hugging the turn. Just saying.
#7--I would always be willing to defend people being falsely stereotyped. Why? Because I feel that it is wrong.
And finally, as I've stated before...
I am not a fan of Nascar. But you know what I dislike more than Nascar? Stereotyping people that you truly don't know. Life is far too short.
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One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
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2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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excellent.mfc2006 said:
#1--Do you decide what's a sport? If so, I hope you keep us up to date with your findings on all sports that are on the "bubble." (Curling, Table Tennis, Bowling, etc....also...what do you think of the X Games?)joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
#2--Most everything we do as a species is bad for the environment. I drive a dual exhaust V6 SUV, for example. Does that mean that my efforts to recycle are pointless?
#3--I'd love to see the data on that. For example, my father in law loves Nascar....and he sure as hell didn't vote for Trump.
#4--Again, would love to see data. Crime statistics? Police reports?
#5--More stereotypes. Unreal.
#6--I'd say it's a little bit different than watching paint dry. I've yet to see 2 pain cans zipping around a Home Depot at 100+ MPH and hugging the turn. Just saying.
#7--I would always be willing to defend people being falsely stereotyped. Why? Because I feel that it is wrong.
And finally, as I've stated before...
I am not a fan of Nascar. But you know what I dislike more than Nascar? Stereotyping people that you truly don't know. Life is far too short.
Ok, I'm done. Back to life.5/3/92 Omaha, NE
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I hope you're joking, but in case you're not:joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
#1 - You can define "sport" however you wish, but it is. Many NASCAR drivers participate in Triathalons (Jimmie Johnson, Josh Wise, Landon Cassill off the top of my head) and are finely tuned in hand/eye coordination and adapted their bodies to a high level of G forces they incur in a race car. They can lose over 8 pounds in a race and are on strict hydration schedules.These guys are athletes, plain and simple.
#2 - All NASCAR vehicles run on E85 Ethanol. Recycling bins and stations are found seemingly every 30 yards at NASCAR sanctioned events. I've seen more trash left behind (and thrown on the field for that matter) at professional football games over NASCAR races.
#3 - Total opinion with no fact to that percentage whatsoever. Out of 40, over 20% of NASCAR Cup series drivers are from California. Check out the democratic/republican voting percentage in that state. Some of the highest attended NASCAR sanctioned races occur in California, Delaware, New Hampshire.
4# - Again, zero facts. With many of them donating to charity and having foundations of their own for children and women, that's absolutely false. Myself and several of my friends (I can think of 50 individuals off the top of my head) that watch have never committed battery towards a female. So that ruins your "majority".
5# - Those same 50 I mentioned in #4, none live in a trailer. They own homes & the land they are perched upon.
I'm not an enormous NASCAR fan but I do know a lot about it and am friends with several involved/employed by it, and all of your points are pure stereotypes with no factual basis whatsoever. You may not like it personally, but that doesn't justify slandering it with zero fact and your own stereotypical/bigoted opinion.
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Oh man, that is a nightmare!!!!lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
And lol at the lady grind dancing by herself down in the first row at the very start of that video.
And at the 26 second mark, does that guy have on a mullet wig or is that the real thing? So many damn questions.....Post edited by Dr. Delight onAnd so you see, I have come to doubt
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No doubt about thatlolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
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They run Sunoco E15, not E85.rbhester said:
I hope you're joking, but in case you're not:joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
#1 - You can define "sport" however you wish, but it is. Many NASCAR drivers participate in Triathalons (Jimmie Johnson, Josh Wise, Landon Cassill off the top of my head) and are finely tuned in hand/eye coordination and adapted their bodies to a high level of G forces they incur in a race car. They can lose over 8 pounds in a race and are on strict hydration schedules.These guys are athletes, plain and simple.
#2 - All NASCAR vehicles run on E85 Ethanol. Recycling bins and stations are found seemingly every 30 yards at NASCAR sanctioned events. I've seen more trash left behind (and thrown on the field for that matter) at professional football games over NASCAR races.
#3 - Total opinion with no fact to that percentage whatsoever. Out of 40, over 20% of NASCAR Cup series drivers are from California. Check out the democratic/republican voting percentage in that state. Some of the highest attended NASCAR sanctioned races occur in California, Delaware, New Hampshire.
4# - Again, zero facts. With many of them donating to charity and having foundations of their own for children and women, that's absolutely false. Myself and several of my friends (I can think of 50 individuals off the top of my head) that watch have never committed battery towards a female. So that ruins your "majority".
5# - Those same 50 I mentioned in #4, none live in a trailer. They own homes & the land they are perched upon.
I'm not an enormous NASCAR fan but I do know a lot about it and am friends with several involved/employed by it, and all of your points are pure stereotypes with no factual basis whatsoever. You may not like it personally, but that doesn't justify slandering it with zero fact and your own stereotypical/bigoted opinion.0 -
a question that I also wonder about. ironic or the real thing?Dr. Delight said:
Oh man, that is a nightmare!!!!lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
And lol at the lady grind dancing by herself down in the first row at the very start of that video.
And at the 26 second mark, does that guy have on a mullet wig or is that the real thing? So many damn questions.....livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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You are allowed to bring a cooler INTO the race! There is allowed to be beer IN that cooler!!! You know how much money I saved on beer?!?lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
I've actually seen more fights at baseball games then at a NASCAR race, true story. NASCAR fans are actually mellow for the most part sans this individual in the video...0 -
she just got confused and thought she was at Mardi Grastempo_n_groove said:
You are allowed to bring a cooler INTO the race! There is allowed to be beer IN that cooler!!! You know how much money I saved on beer?!?lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
I've actually seen more fights at baseball games then at a NASCAR race, true story. NASCAR fans are actually mellow for the most part sans this individual in the video...livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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Totally agreed. I'm a Nascar fan and have attended roughly 20-30 races over the last 20 years or so. The sport is evolving and so is its fan base and many other aspects of the sport.rbhester said:
I hope you're joking, but in case you're not:joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
#1 - You can define "sport" however you wish, but it is. Many NASCAR drivers participate in Triathalons (Jimmie Johnson, Josh Wise, Landon Cassill off the top of my head) and are finely tuned in hand/eye coordination and adapted their bodies to a high level of G forces they incur in a race car. They can lose over 8 pounds in a race and are on strict hydration schedules.These guys are athletes, plain and simple.
#2 - All NASCAR vehicles run on E85 Ethanol. Recycling bins and stations are found seemingly every 30 yards at NASCAR sanctioned events. I've seen more trash left behind (and thrown on the field for that matter) at professional football games over NASCAR races.
#3 - Total opinion with no fact to that percentage whatsoever. Out of 40, over 20% of NASCAR Cup series drivers are from California. Check out the democratic/republican voting percentage in that state. Some of the highest attended NASCAR sanctioned races occur in California, Delaware, New Hampshire.
4# - Again, zero facts. With many of them donating to charity and having foundations of their own for children and women, that's absolutely false. Myself and several of my friends (I can think of 50 individuals off the top of my head) that watch have never committed battery towards a female. So that ruins your "majority".
5# - Those same 50 I mentioned in #4, none live in a trailer. They own homes & the land they are perched upon.
I'm not an enormous NASCAR fan but I do know a lot about it and am friends with several involved/employed by it, and all of your points are pure stereotypes with no factual basis whatsoever. You may not like it personally, but that doesn't justify slandering it with zero fact and your own stereotypical/bigoted opinion."I got memories, I got shit"0 -
Not sure what was more awesome/terrifying the sweet pole dancer, the raging country music, that rednecks drink elitist F'me beer(or maybe it's the other way around) or that fucking killer mullet!lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
Anything you lose from being honest
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They run Sunoco E15, not E85.
Even better!
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F'Me drinks Coors Light?northerndragon said:
Not sure what was more awesome/terrifying the sweet pole dancer, the raging country music, that rednecks drink elitist F'me beer(or maybe it's the other way around) or that fucking killer mullet!lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
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1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
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How do you not know that?lolobugg said:
F'Me drinks Coors Light?northerndragon said:
Not sure what was more awesome/terrifying the sweet pole dancer, the raging country music, that rednecks drink elitist F'me beer(or maybe it's the other way around) or that fucking killer mullet!lolobugg said:One thing i was able to confirm is that NASCAR fans enjoy their alcohol..........
https://youtu.be/3fSIr8kYo9g
And yes he does.Anything you lose from being honest
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.0 -
Spend 4-5 hours in a racing suit insulated by fire-retardant undergarments, with a helmet, with track temperatures at 100+ F, going at speeds of 120+ mph, pulling 2-3g's into a corner every 30 every seconds... tell me how your body feels the next morning and then try to say it isn't a sport.joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
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What perplexes me the most about Nascar is I never hear their fans shove the sport down other people's throats, incessantly brag, or make a big deal why they like it so much. But the people who dislike Nascar never shut up about it. This is one of the most bizarre posts I've seen on here in a long time.joseph33 said:My reasoning is as follows. #1. Not a sport.#2. Not good for the environment. #3. 99.9 percent of fans most likely voted for Trump.#4. A majority of fans more than likely at one point,laid hands on a female.#5. Television reception in more than half of viewers,probably takes place at a trailer park. NASCAR is no different than watching paint dry. Would people here still defend it,if they didn't make a large sum donation to Ed's charity? My guess is no.
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Back to the topic at hand. Ed's reaction to the million dollar donation was great! Good on the Motorsports Industry!Lollapalooza 1992 Mansfield MA
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