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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    lukin2006 said:

    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...

    Trump isn't the same as other POTUS's. Look, if you have chosen not to care about something that is a huge deal for the entire world, be my guest. But why not lay off on acting like the rest of us shouldn't either? Some of us don't think being ridiculously apathetic and blase about the most appalling political upset in the history of the free world, which will have world-wide negative effects, is something to be proud of.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    lukin2006 said:

    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...

    Ah, the apathy card. Played by someone with a remembrance day avatar.....which never would have existed if fear mongering and voter apathy didnt exist.

    Oh, the irony.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...

    Trump isn't the same as other POTUS's. Look, if you have chosen not to care about something that is a huge deal for the entire world, be my guest. But why not lay off on acting like the rest of us shouldn't either? Some of us don't think being ridiculously apathetic and blase about the most appalling political upset in the history of the free world, which will have world-wide negative effects, is something to be proud of.
    You trying to take away my fun....

    This has been one of the best and busiest days on these forums ... hahahaha
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    lukin2006 said:

    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...

    Ah, the apathy card. Played by someone with a remembrance day avatar.....which never would have existed if fear mongering and voter apathy didnt exist.

    Oh, the irony.

    Yes and you wanted a war monger as president not me, I display an symbol every year in honour and respect for relatives that served in both WW and in honour of others served in wars caused by politicians ... but yet none of the politicians are ever the first on the battlefield...so you'll just have to get over yourself...maybe go play a game of hockey.

    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    lukin2006 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    lukin2006 said:

    By the way, I did mention way back that I thought a Trump presidency would be a hoot, that's because politicians, like government employees, bureaucrats live at the trough of the taxpayer with little regard to actual taxpayer...so forgive me if I don't take these election things that some of you are so fond of as seriously as you do. That life...your problem, not mine...

    Ah, the apathy card. Played by someone with a remembrance day avatar.....which never would have existed if fear mongering and voter apathy didnt exist.

    Oh, the irony.

    Yes and you wanted a war monger as president not me, I display an symbol every year in honour and respect for relatives that served in both WW and in honour of others served in wars caused by politicians ... but yet none of the politicians are ever the first on the battlefield...so you'll just have to get over yourself...maybe go play a game of hockey.

    No i didnt. I wanted a non trump.

    not really a sports guy. But thanks for the suggestion! Its super original to tell a canadian to go play hockey! Bravo! Excuse me, i have to go feed my pet moose Gordie.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    fuck you have a pet moose as well, cool...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    And a beaver that comes around from time to time. He wears a toque and he can drink more beer than most americans.

    Hoser eh?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Beavers are cool...is he wearing a Jets jersey, I hope....
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Fuck you all like beavers too?
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Fuck you all like beavers too?

    I see what you did there...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Chantal Hebert is a fantastic, smart as a whip journalist.
    I always enjoy reading her. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/11/12/trudeau-is-equally-traumatized-by-trump-hbert.html
    Ontario MP Janko Peric wondered out loud whether Bush actually cared for the people of Iraq.
    Canada was watching the Iraq operation from the sidelines when then-Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish stomped on a doll of the American president — a gesture for which she was exiled from the government benches.
    Those were pre-Twitter days. One can only imagine the cacophony that would have resulted if Chrétien or Martin’s caucuses had been empowered with the opportunity to vent against the White House in 140-character increments.
    But in this instance Trudeau has neither the luxury to have his MPs indulge in Trump bashing nor the political need to do so.
    The Iraq episode was undoubtedly a major bump in the road. To a lesser degree, so was Barack Obama’s veto on the Keystone XL pipeline. Both put strains on the Canada-U.S. relationship.
    But in each case at least one of the protagonists was on the way out of politics. In 2003 Chrétien was in his last year in office. At the time of the Keystone veto, Obama’s presidency was drawing to a close. The notion that a more amenable partner might be just around the corner was not a delusion.
    Trudeau, who is at the dawn of a first mandate, has no alternative but to play the long game. Expectations that he will find productive common ground with Trump are so low that it would normally not take much to exceed them. But then normal is not the first word that comes to mind when one looks at the new North American dynamics.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    edited December 2016
    between the approval of kinder morgan and the liberal representatives on electoral reform - trudeau showing he is a sheep in wolf's clothing ... what a turd ...
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    You voted for him no?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    You voted for him no?

    hell no ... i've never voted for a liberal in any election period ...
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Sorry about that.
    Your posts are very indicative of a liberal.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Sorry about that.
    Your posts are very indicative of a liberal.

    Albertan.

    And Polaris is very liberal in nature (not a bad thing). But this little exchange points out the very basic fact that people's politics are very much tied to their family's needs and interests.

    Alberta wanted Harper for many reasons. The rest of Canada didn't feel the same as them for many reasons.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Sorry about that.
    Your posts are very indicative of a liberal.

    i take offense to that!! ... nowhere close to being liberal (canadian liberal not us liberal)
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gov't is releasing a survey to gather info on electoral reform ... me thinks they are trying to use this as a means of railroading the process ... think they are going to try and relate accountability and speed of decision as measures by which we shouldn't engage in electoral reform ...

    https://www.mydemocracy.ca/
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    polaris_x said:

    gov't is releasing a survey to gather info on electoral reform ... me thinks they are trying to use this as a means of railroading the process ... think they are going to try and relate accountability and speed of decision as measures by which we shouldn't engage in electoral reform ...

    https://www.mydemocracy.ca/

    My feelings as well.
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