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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited November 2016

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    Now I see.
    I thought your posts were funny due to language.
    But this one makes it loud and clear what you think.

    edit - :disappointed:
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • JC29856
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    Let's see the rush to defend...
  • BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
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  • BS44325
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    BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
    You believe he said it but nobody can verify it...It is what his ex-wife alleged. It is the flimsiest of evidence if it can be considered anything beyond hearsay evidence at all.

    This article is one more that just blows the whole idea of anti-semitism out of the water


    https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/11/16/the-borking-of-bannon-or-why-trumps-breitbart-pick-bests-the-new-york-times-arthur-sulzberger/

    But again...I don't expect anybody on the alt-left to read it. Most would rather run with the spoon fed false narrative even if it leads to continued electoral defeats.
  • josevolution
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    BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
    No not anymore since Bafoon made it ok to spew this kind of rethoric it's now ok , you see how all the groping accusations are now over once he was elected that was the end of that talk !
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177

    The funny thing I bet most do not know is Ivanka Trump is Jewish and so is her husband and their kids. Yeah, but Donald hired a anti-jew to his cabinet.

    Yeah and since Kushner carries so much influence how would he allow Bannon in there? I don't get it. Definitely confusing.

    I heard some audio of Bannon last night. He's definitely a whack job.
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  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
    You believe he said it but nobody can verify it...It is what his ex-wife alleged. It is the flimsiest of evidence if it can be considered anything beyond hearsay evidence at all.

    This article is one more that just blows the whole idea of anti-semitism out of the water


    https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/11/16/the-borking-of-bannon-or-why-trumps-breitbart-pick-bests-the-new-york-times-arthur-sulzberger/

    But again...I don't expect anybody on the alt-left to read it. Most would rather run with the spoon fed false narrative even if it leads to continued electoral defeats.
    So that's your defense? A three paragraph blog statement from a pro-Israeli blogger comparing ed kennedy's Robert Bork statements to the NYT lead articles and editorial? That's what your defending Bannon with? Are you really a professor?

    And I guess because I read it I can be associated or called "alt-left?"

    I give more credence to his ex-wife's alleged allegations.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
    yeah I forgot about that....dude is a fucking asshole
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  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    You really believe this cut and paste? ^^

    Believe? Do you have evidence of Bannon's anti-semitism? What I see on here is a regurgitation of unsubstantiated nonsense. That being said it does not matter. The election demonstrated that people are not listening to these charges anymore. The left has cried wolf too many times and has shown to be out of arguments with respect to any issue. Unfortunately though this lesson has not been learned so progressive failure will continue to repeat itself up and down the ballot.

    I believe it was bannon that said this:
    “ the biggest problem he had with Archer (school) is the number of Jews that attend." He said that he "doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.”

    Is that not anti semetic?
    You believe he said it but nobody can verify it...It is what his ex-wife alleged. It is the flimsiest of evidence if it can be considered anything beyond hearsay evidence at all.

    This article is one more that just blows the whole idea of anti-semitism out of the water


    https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/11/16/the-borking-of-bannon-or-why-trumps-breitbart-pick-bests-the-new-york-times-arthur-sulzberger/

    But again...I don't expect anybody on the alt-left to read it. Most would rather run with the spoon fed false narrative even if it leads to continued electoral defeats.
    You asked for evidence that he was an anti-semite, I provided such evidence. Those are part of court documents, if they weren't true, wouldn't bannon try and clear his name? Wouldn't he sue his ex for slander? Simply saying "I didn't say those things" doesn't mean he didn't say it.
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  • mace1229
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    tbergs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    And who's the misogynist again?
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed too for these comments alone.
    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure, there's accusations of anti-Jew and homophobic claims, and the fact members of the KKK like Trump (even though he is not associated with them). Could be worse, Trump could be close friends with a known and CONVICTED domestic terrorist who has killed people and who still brags about what he did and says he would do it again. Wait, why does that sound familiar? O yeah, Obama and BILL F***iING AYERS! I assume you were 10 times as outraged when Obama's political carear started in the home of Ayers? And Ayers was a close friend to him, not just someone he never met and said he'd vote for him? Yeah, I'm sure that was the case.
    These claims were amusing at first, now its just getting old and sad.

    C'mon Mace you know they don't care about Ayres or Jeremiah Wright or Rashid Khalidi. They never cared about Senator Robert Byrd and the KKK before them. They don't care about Keith Ellison now and his ties to the Nation of Islam...heck they're ready to make him head of the DNC!
    Seriously. This was the only comment to my question. These were similar (but more drastic scenarios). Wright was openly racists against whites, said ant-American claims. Ayers KILLED people, created a domestic terrorist organization and started Obama's political career. So why do so many ignore all that, but are so outraged because someone from the KVK who Trump never met voted for him?
    I don't get it.
  • Go Beavers
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    mace1229 said:

    tbergs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    And who's the misogynist again?
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed too for these comments alone.
    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure, there's accusations of anti-Jew and homophobic claims, and the fact members of the KKK like Trump (even though he is not associated with them). Could be worse, Trump could be close friends with a known and CONVICTED domestic terrorist who has killed people and who still brags about what he did and says he would do it again. Wait, why does that sound familiar? O yeah, Obama and BILL F***iING AYERS! I assume you were 10 times as outraged when Obama's political carear started in the home of Ayers? And Ayers was a close friend to him, not just someone he never met and said he'd vote for him? Yeah, I'm sure that was the case.
    These claims were amusing at first, now its just getting old and sad.

    C'mon Mace you know they don't care about Ayres or Jeremiah Wright or Rashid Khalidi. They never cared about Senator Robert Byrd and the KKK before them. They don't care about Keith Ellison now and his ties to the Nation of Islam...heck they're ready to make him head of the DNC!
    Seriously. This was the only comment to my question. These were similar (but more drastic scenarios). Wright was openly racists against whites, said ant-American claims. Ayers KILLED people, created a domestic terrorist organization and started Obama's political career. So why do so many ignore all that, but are so outraged because someone from the KVK who Trump never met voted for him?
    I don't get it.
    Who did Ayers kill?
  • Yea, Bannon's a stand up guy: I'm sure you're all proud of his involvement at the highest reaches of the US government.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/15/can-you-name-one-white-nationalist-article-at-breitbart-challenge-accepted/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

    And incase you're too lazy to read the links in the above referenced article, I posted the direct link and some select quotes:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/stephen-bannon-donald-trump-alt-right-breitbart-news

    We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon told me proudly when I interviewed him at the Republican National Convention (RNC) in July. Though disavowed by every other major conservative news outlet, the alt-right has been Bannon's target audience ever since he took over Breitbart News from its late founder, Andrew Breitbart, four years ago. Under Bannon's leadership, the site has plunged into the fever swamps of conservatism, cheering white nationalist groups as an "eclectic mix of renegades," accusing President Barack Obama of importing "more hating Muslims," and waging an incessant war against the purveyors of "political correctness."

    "Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," writes a former Breitbart News editor. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed."

    "Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro wrote last week on the Daily Wire, a conservative website. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed. Now Breitbart has become the alt-right go-to website, with [technology editor Milo] Yiannopoulos pushing white ethno-nationalism as a legitimate response to political correctness, and the comment section turning into a cesspool for white supremacist mememakers."

    Trump's new campaign chief denies that the alt-right is inherently racist. He describes its ideology as "nationalist," though not necessarily white nationalist. Likening its approach to that of European nationalist parties such as France's National Front, he says, "If you look at the identity movements over there in Europe, I think a lot of [them] are really 'Polish identity' or 'German identity,' not racial identity. It's more identity toward a nation-state or their people as a nation." (Never mind that National Front founder Jean Marie Le Pen has been fined in France for "inciting racial hatred.")

    Bannon dismisses the alt-right's appeal to racists as happenstance. "Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe," he says. "Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that's just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements."

    A Twitter analysis conducted by The Investigative Fund using Little Bird software found that these "elements" are more deeply connected to Breitbart News than more traditional conservative outlets. While only 5 percent of key influencers using the supremacist hashtag #whitegenocide follow the National Review, and 10 percent follow the Daily Caller, 31 percent follow Breitbart. The disparities are even starker for the anti-Muslim hashtag #counterjihad: National Review, 26 percent; the Daily Caller, 37 percent; Breitbart News, 62 percent.

    On Thursday, in the Washington Post, Shapiro upped the ante, describing the alt-right as a "movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism," and Breitbart News as "a party organ, a pathetic cog in the Trump-Media Complex and a gathering place for white nationalists." The reception he and another conservative Jewish Breitbart critic, Bethany Mandel, have experienced in the Bannonosphere is revealing: In May, when Shapiro, who became editor-in-chief of the Daily Wire after leaving Breitbart, tweeted about the birth of his second child, he received a torrent of anti-Semitic tweets. "Into the gas chamber with all 4 of you," one read. Another tweet depicted his family as lampshades. Mandel says she has been harassed on Twitter for months, "called a 'slimy Jewess' and told that I 'deserve the oven.'"

    Sure, because he doesn't say it, he's not it, anti-Semitic. But he sure does promote it, foster it and fan it, doesn't he. You should be proud of his "plausible deniability" and ability to use his "dog whistle."

    And there's a lot more if you alt-righters aren't too lazy to read the full article.
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  • mace1229
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    edited November 2016

    mace1229 said:

    tbergs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    And who's the misogynist again?
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed too for these comments alone.
    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure, there's accusations of anti-Jew and homophobic claims, and the fact members of the KKK like Trump (even though he is not associated with them). Could be worse, Trump could be close friends with a known and CONVICTED domestic terrorist who has killed people and who still brags about what he did and says he would do it again. Wait, why does that sound familiar? O yeah, Obama and BILL F***iING AYERS! I assume you were 10 times as outraged when Obama's political carear started in the home of Ayers? And Ayers was a close friend to him, not just someone he never met and said he'd vote for him? Yeah, I'm sure that was the case.
    These claims were amusing at first, now its just getting old and sad.

    C'mon Mace you know they don't care about Ayres or Jeremiah Wright or Rashid Khalidi. They never cared about Senator Robert Byrd and the KKK before them. They don't care about Keith Ellison now and his ties to the Nation of Islam...heck they're ready to make him head of the DNC!
    Seriously. This was the only comment to my question. These were similar (but more drastic scenarios). Wright was openly racists against whites, said ant-American claims. Ayers KILLED people, created a domestic terrorist organization and started Obama's political career. So why do so many ignore all that, but are so outraged because someone from the KVK who Trump never met voted for him?
    I don't get it.
    Who did Ayers kill?
    I don't have names of his victim's memorized. You can google it just as easily as I can. He's blowing up buildings that resulted in deaths of people. Easy to find.
    He's admitted to multiple bombings, but wont comment on ones where people actually died (often wont deny it either). I remember one being a judge. His fiancé and some friends were killed when a bomb prematurely exploded, and denies involvement in that even though his fiancé and he were typically involved in these things together so there's little question in my mind about that.
    Best case scenario and giving him every benefit of doubt, he started an organization and encouraged activity that is responsible for multiple deaths. Was he conveniently absent every time someone died? I really doubt it.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    mace1229 said:

    mace1229 said:

    tbergs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    And who's the misogynist again?
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed too for these comments alone.
    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure, there's accusations of anti-Jew and homophobic claims, and the fact members of the KKK like Trump (even though he is not associated with them). Could be worse, Trump could be close friends with a known and CONVICTED domestic terrorist who has killed people and who still brags about what he did and says he would do it again. Wait, why does that sound familiar? O yeah, Obama and BILL F***iING AYERS! I assume you were 10 times as outraged when Obama's political carear started in the home of Ayers? And Ayers was a close friend to him, not just someone he never met and said he'd vote for him? Yeah, I'm sure that was the case.
    These claims were amusing at first, now its just getting old and sad.

    C'mon Mace you know they don't care about Ayres or Jeremiah Wright or Rashid Khalidi. They never cared about Senator Robert Byrd and the KKK before them. They don't care about Keith Ellison now and his ties to the Nation of Islam...heck they're ready to make him head of the DNC!
    Seriously. This was the only comment to my question. These were similar (but more drastic scenarios). Wright was openly racists against whites, said ant-American claims. Ayers KILLED people, created a domestic terrorist organization and started Obama's political career. So why do so many ignore all that, but are so outraged because someone from the KVK who Trump never met voted for him?
    I don't get it.
    Who did Ayers kill?
    I don't have names of his victim's memorized. You can google it just as easily as I can. He's blowing up buildings that resulted in deaths of people. Easy to find.
    He's admitted to multiple bombings, but wont comment on ones where people actually died (often wont deny it either). I remember one being a judge. His fiancé and some friends were killed when a bomb prematurely exploded, and denies involvement in that even though his fiancé and he were typically involved in these things together so there's little question in my mind about that.
    Best case scenario and giving him every benefit of doubt, he started an organization and encouraged activity that is responsible for multiple deaths. Was he conveniently absent every time someone died? I really doubt it.
    It's funny how you mention google yet Ayers killed no one and had nothing to do with killing anyone.
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  • Go Beavers
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    mace1229 said:

    mace1229 said:

    tbergs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    So what is between a Jew and a guy dude? Some kosher sheets maybe?

    Melania ..
    And who's the misogynist again?
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed too for these comments alone.
    BS44325 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure, there's accusations of anti-Jew and homophobic claims, and the fact members of the KKK like Trump (even though he is not associated with them). Could be worse, Trump could be close friends with a known and CONVICTED domestic terrorist who has killed people and who still brags about what he did and says he would do it again. Wait, why does that sound familiar? O yeah, Obama and BILL F***iING AYERS! I assume you were 10 times as outraged when Obama's political carear started in the home of Ayers? And Ayers was a close friend to him, not just someone he never met and said he'd vote for him? Yeah, I'm sure that was the case.
    These claims were amusing at first, now its just getting old and sad.

    C'mon Mace you know they don't care about Ayres or Jeremiah Wright or Rashid Khalidi. They never cared about Senator Robert Byrd and the KKK before them. They don't care about Keith Ellison now and his ties to the Nation of Islam...heck they're ready to make him head of the DNC!
    Seriously. This was the only comment to my question. These were similar (but more drastic scenarios). Wright was openly racists against whites, said ant-American claims. Ayers KILLED people, created a domestic terrorist organization and started Obama's political career. So why do so many ignore all that, but are so outraged because someone from the KVK who Trump never met voted for him?
    I don't get it.
    Who did Ayers kill?
    I don't have names of his victim's memorized. You can google it just as easily as I can. He's blowing up buildings that resulted in deaths of people. Easy to find.
    He's admitted to multiple bombings, but wont comment on ones where people actually died (often wont deny it either). I remember one being a judge. His fiancé and some friends were killed when a bomb prematurely exploded, and denies involvement in that even though his fiancé and he were typically involved in these things together so there's little question in my mind about that.
    Best case scenario and giving him every benefit of doubt, he started an organization and encouraged activity that is responsible for multiple deaths. Was he conveniently absent every time someone died? I really doubt it.
    It's funny how you mention google yet Ayers killed no one and had nothing to do with killing anyone.
    Yup. I googled it before I asked the question. I didn't find anything so I was hoping for some help. I keep forgetting that you don't need facts in Trumpworld.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2016
    rssesq said:

    lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?

    No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    Yea, Bannon's a stand up guy: I'm sure you're all proud of his involvement at the highest reaches of the US government.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/15/can-you-name-one-white-nationalist-article-at-breitbart-challenge-accepted/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

    And incase you're too lazy to read the links in the above referenced article, I posted the direct link and some select quotes:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/stephen-bannon-donald-trump-alt-right-breitbart-news

    We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon told me proudly when I interviewed him at the Republican National Convention (RNC) in July. Though disavowed by every other major conservative news outlet, the alt-right has been Bannon's target audience ever since he took over Breitbart News from its late founder, Andrew Breitbart, four years ago. Under Bannon's leadership, the site has plunged into the fever swamps of conservatism, cheering white nationalist groups as an "eclectic mix of renegades," accusing President Barack Obama of importing "more hating Muslims," and waging an incessant war against the purveyors of "political correctness."

    "Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," writes a former Breitbart News editor. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed."

    "Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro wrote last week on the Daily Wire, a conservative website. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed. Now Breitbart has become the alt-right go-to website, with [technology editor Milo] Yiannopoulos pushing white ethno-nationalism as a legitimate response to political correctness, and the comment section turning into a cesspool for white supremacist mememakers."

    Trump's new campaign chief denies that the alt-right is inherently racist. He describes its ideology as "nationalist," though not necessarily white nationalist. Likening its approach to that of European nationalist parties such as France's National Front, he says, "If you look at the identity movements over there in Europe, I think a lot of [them] are really 'Polish identity' or 'German identity,' not racial identity. It's more identity toward a nation-state or their people as a nation." (Never mind that National Front founder Jean Marie Le Pen has been fined in France for "inciting racial hatred.")

    Bannon dismisses the alt-right's appeal to racists as happenstance. "Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe," he says. "Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that's just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements."

    A Twitter analysis conducted by The Investigative Fund using Little Bird software found that these "elements" are more deeply connected to Breitbart News than more traditional conservative outlets. While only 5 percent of key influencers using the supremacist hashtag #whitegenocide follow the National Review, and 10 percent follow the Daily Caller, 31 percent follow Breitbart. The disparities are even starker for the anti-Muslim hashtag #counterjihad: National Review, 26 percent; the Daily Caller, 37 percent; Breitbart News, 62 percent.

    On Thursday, in the Washington Post, Shapiro upped the ante, describing the alt-right as a "movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism," and Breitbart News as "a party organ, a pathetic cog in the Trump-Media Complex and a gathering place for white nationalists." The reception he and another conservative Jewish Breitbart critic, Bethany Mandel, have experienced in the Bannonosphere is revealing: In May, when Shapiro, who became editor-in-chief of the Daily Wire after leaving Breitbart, tweeted about the birth of his second child, he received a torrent of anti-Semitic tweets. "Into the gas chamber with all 4 of you," one read. Another tweet depicted his family as lampshades. Mandel says she has been harassed on Twitter for months, "called a 'slimy Jewess' and told that I 'deserve the oven.'"

    Sure, because he doesn't say it, he's not it, anti-Semitic. But he sure does promote it, foster it and fan it, doesn't he. You should be proud of his "plausible deniability" and ability to use his "dog whistle."

    And there's a lot more if you alt-righters aren't too lazy to read the full article.

    I read it all. Is this really all you got in the Bannon is an anti-semite department? Pretty thin gruel.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:

    lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?

    No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
    It's a line the opposition has to carefully walk in order to have some sort of persuasive effect. You don't want to start to holler about nazis and the jews because you'll instantly lose people, but you also want to send up some red flags right now, for example, about the idea being kicked around to register Muslims.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    PJ_Soul said:

    rssesq said:

    lotsa hitler shows appearing non-stop on the history channel as of late. is it his bday or something?

    No, Hitler's birthday is April 20th (I know because it's also my own birthday, lol). I would say the history channel intends it to be a warning.... a subtle suggestion that Americans keep the history of the Nazi party in mind as Trump does his thing (I assume you know this and your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek). I personally think the Nazi party/Trump parallels are very apt in many ways. I'm not suggesting Trump will end up committing systematic genocide or anything, but there are definitely a lot of very Nazi-esque things that he has and apparently plans on doing. This become more apparent by the day as he chooses his cabinet and how he deals with media. I think the sharp negative reaction by Trump supporters when these comparisons are made may be based in denial as well as a bit of guilt.
    they did the same thing in 2008 when the financial meltdown occurred and also when Bernie Madoff was indicted. lol