So, What Comes Now?

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    .Farewell, America
    No matter how the rest of the world looked at us on Nov. 7, they will now look at us differently.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/11/10/farewell-america

    Damn, that makes me sad.
    If only there was someone that could have beaten him that the world would respect...
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Yeah, Bernie.
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,390
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Ms. Haiku said:

    I attended a solidarity meeting created by my city to support people who feel disenfranchised, and to be more aware of opportunities that people can sign up for. It was a good turn out especially since the meeting was developed in the past couple days. Thank goodness for Facebook. It was a beautiful night with a bright quarter-esque moon. I haven't been this involved for over 20 years.


    So what did you sign up for?
    I put my email on a list, and from there I'll be notified of activities to help out. I don't know the activities, yet. Maybe I'll volunteer at something to help out.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Here's my two cents:

    Forget the US for a second. Despite this embarrassing turn of events... look at Eastern Europe.

    Trump has cozied up to Russia. Russia has ambitions.

    Hmmm.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Here's my two cents:

    Forget the US for a second. Despite this embarrassing turn of events... look at Eastern Europe.

    Trump has cozied up to Russia. Russia has ambitions.

    Hmmm.

    I think a lot of dictators are looking at this as an opportunity to pull one over on the Trumpster. We'll be a target for the next 4 years. Hopefully the people around him can keep things in check. No texting Vlad at 3am please!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,390
    3000 DC public school protesters marching near Washington Monument and Supreme Court

    Girls: My Body My Choice
    Boys: Her body Her Choice

    It's exciting that people who can't vote are still engaged. I was not an engaged high schooler. I just wanted to get into college.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    Godfather. said:

    So, what comes now ?
    America begins it's journey to heal its wounds suffered over the last 8 years, I will admit that some things the obama admin. were good but there were also so many bad things that he created as well and the current and past riots are a reflection of that, I don't recall any republican riots in the streets when he was elected, do you ?

    Godfather.

    Looks like GF never did come to terms with the fact that Obama didn't warrant the kind of dismay and anger that Trump warrants.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    mickeyrat said:

    what comes now should be extensive polling to find out the various reasons 43% of the eligible voting population chose not to then do the necessary work to correct that abysmal turnout %.

    Mandatory voting would fix that immediately. I'm for it. I wish Canada had it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,096
    Ms. Haiku said:

    There are plans for a Million Women March in January in DC. I'm across the street from DC, so I expect to be there.

    Also, I usually donate to health charities, e.g., Doctors without Borders or the hospital where I am seen, but today I finally donated to politics-oriented organizations: ACLU, League of Women Voters, and the National Women's Law Center. The donations are monthly so I don't have to think about it. Maybe this action is all that I will do over the next four years, or maybe it is the beginning.

    My wife is def going to go down there for this !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    mickeyrat said:

    what comes now should be extensive polling to find out the various reasons 43% of the eligible voting population chose not to then do the necessary work to correct that abysmal turnout %.

    Mandatory voting would fix that immediately. I'm for it. I wish Canada had it.
    I am for mandatory voting too and that would be a solution.
    Extensive polling would do nothing as polls don't mean jack.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,444
    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.
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  • tweedyfanjen
    tweedyfanjen Posts: 881
    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    This. Why can't it be a national holiday? It used to be a state holiday here in SC but hasn't been for years.


    I'm through with screaming
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    edited November 2016
    tweedyfanjen said:

    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    This. Why can't it be a national holiday? It used to be a state holiday here in SC but hasn't been for years.


    It's a holiday where I work (which is in soith carolina). But why does it have to be considered a holiday? People should vote regardless. Employers are required to allow employees the opportunity to vote if they work during voting hours.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    tweedyfanjen said:

    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    This. Why can't it be a national holiday? It used to be a state holiday here in SC but hasn't been for years.


    It should just be vote by mail. Convenient and cheaper.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    The US doesn't have mandatory paid time off work to vote? Geez. That is a legal requirement for employers in Canada.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    PJ_Soul said:

    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    The US doesn't have mandatory paid time off work to vote? Geez. That is a legal requirement for employers in Canada.
    It is mandatory that employers give you time off, but I don't think they have to pay you for it.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't want someone (who may not even get paid time off to vote - which thankfully we do here in CA) to be forced into it and be of the "Fuck you, I don't want to vote" mindset. What would be the penalties for not voting? Isn't exercising your right NOT to vote as important as actually doing it?

    I've voted every election since I was eligible, now via absentee ballot, but there are still issues and candidates I pass on altogether.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Go Beavers said:

    tweedyfanjen said:

    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    This. Why can't it be a national holiday? It used to be a state holiday here in SC but hasn't been for years.


    It should just be vote by mail. Convenient and cheaper.
    Exactly. I believe you do this in Oregon. We do it this way in Washington. No need for a national holiday. Just mail the ballots to voters and give them a few weeks to go through the issues, tick the boxes, and turn it back in.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    hedonist said:

    I don't want someone (who may not even get paid time off to vote - which thankfully we do here in CA) to be forced into it and be of the "Fuck you, I don't want to vote" mindset. What would be the penalties for not voting? Isn't exercising your right NOT to vote as important as actually doing it?

    I've voted every election since I was eligible, now via absentee ballot, but there are still issues and candidates I pass on altogether.

    I'm with you, Hedo. No way I'm in favor of mandatory voting, although I vote every time. I don't want to vote out of fear of a fine or some sort of punishment. I want to vote because I want to participate in our process.

    Would mandatory voting mean you are required to vote on all issues and positions? Could you return a blank ballot and have that be an acceptable mandatory vote? When I hear "mandatory" on any government proposal, my initial reaction is "fuck that", and then I may moderate depending on the issue. But mandatory voting? Fuck that.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    benjs said:

    Mandatory voting for sure, and also mandatory time off of work to vote.

    The US doesn't have mandatory paid time off work to vote? Geez. That is a legal requirement for employers in Canada.
    It is mandatory that employers give you time off, but I don't think they have to pay you for it.
    I see. Well that's pretty shitty. Many people can't afford to lose any pay.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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