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So, What Comes Now?

benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
edited November 2016 in A Moving Train
I'm sure I'm not the only one scratching my head trying to think how I estimated the voting sum of those possessing great deals of socioeconomic and political dissent hellbent on not tolerating Clinton (even if it meant Trump), those in admiration of xenophobic, racist, sexist ideals not-so-subtly alluded to by Donald Trump in the form of policy and/or rhetoric, and people who actually believe that a billionaire comfortable with declaring bankruptcy to not repay his word to stakeholders and contracted labourers.

Honestly, what comes now? How do we combat the inherent ideals of white supremacy? The inevitable to-be-self-induced pro-isolationist stances of Trumpian America? The setback to the social fabric by teaching us fear each other and become weak to a bigger person to assuage those fears? As an outsider, I can't help but be dumbfounded by this whole situation - and am incredibly afraid.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Good god op.
    Enough with scaring people.
    The people have spoken.
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    dont be afraid at those who can destroy the body but cannot pitch it in gehenna, fear and obey the one who can, and he will take you in and his promises are everlasting and he is love..
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    JWPearl said:

    dont be afraid at those who can destroy the body but cannot pitch it in gehenna, fear and obey the one who can, and he will take you in and his promises are everlasting and he is love..

    I'm glad religion has that positive calming effect for you, regrettably it doesn't for me.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Trump is one man.
    He will not destroy you.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:


    Enough with scaring people.

    Like your boyfriend does? Pot kettle black Trumphadist.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P155qPVaPMA
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    No sour grapes allowed :nuh_uh:
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Based on what the more recent president elects say they will do and what they actually do, there probably not much to worry about.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    No sour grapes allowed :nuh_uh:

    Keep deflecting, uneducated deplorable.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Trump is one man.
    He will not destroy you.

    Right. But the nasty women, job-stealing Mexicans and Chinese, terrorist Muslims, should-not-be-rented-to black people, thieving NAFTA and NATO partners will, I thought? Why am I not permitted to express fear about a fear mongering leader, when that fear mongering leader is allowed to air his list of things we should all fear?
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,314
    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Be not afraid, those are only Trumps words.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Breathe.

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    benjs said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Trump is one man.
    He will not destroy you.

    Right. But the nasty women, job-stealing Mexicans and Chinese, terrorist Muslims, should-not-be-rented-to black people, thieving NAFTA and NATO partners will, I thought? Why am I not permitted to express fear about a fear mongering leader, when that fear mongering leader is allowed to air his list of things we should all fear?
    It's like how the intolerant Trump fans call others intolerant for calling them intolerant. They want libs to be more politically IC until they lash out at them. Apparently only white republicans can be PIC and nobody to the left of Hitler can.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,314
    My 96 year old father knows a man his age who lived through the horrors of Nazi Germany. Pop asked the man, "How did you manage through all of that?" The man said, "We just kept on about the business of living until things got better." They got better. Germany is now a much better place than it was then and I'm guessing a better place than America is now. Can we turn things around in like manner? I'm in.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    brianlux said:

    My 96 year old father knows a man his age who lived through the horrors of Nazi Germany. Pop asked the man, "How did you manage through all of that?" The man said, "We just kept on about the business of living until things got better." They got better. Germany is now a much better place than it was then and I'm guessing a better place than America is now. Can we turn things around in like manner? I'm in.

    Agree. Plus you reminded me, at least now we don't have to worry about ww3 or war with Russia Russia Russia.
  • 3days3days Posts: 1,187
    edited November 2016
    OP, I share your concerns. My hope is that we are pleasantly surprised. My advice is to stay vigilant, and to stay involved.
    I'm trying to turn my disappointment with tonight's results into positives. For example, I don't think his proposed tax plan will end up being successful or popular. So, I think it will ultimately weaken his chances for reelection in 2020. If it turns out to be successful/popular, it will be a welcome, happy surprise.
    While it is true that the people have spoken, it doesn't mean that you've lost your voice. You also haven't lost your right to dissent. Be critical when you think you should be.
    Post edited by 3days on
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    good luck
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    dimitrispearljam said:

    good luck

    NAIS
  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,049
    This all seems very familiar - UK says hi.
    Nature drunk and High
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,990
    edited November 2016
    brianlux said:

    My 96 year old father knows a man his age who lived through the horrors of Nazi Germany. Pop asked the man, "How did you manage through all of that?" The man said, "We just kept on about the business of living until things got better." They got better. Germany is now a much better place than it was then and I'm guessing a better place than America is now. Can we turn things around in like manner? I'm in.

    They turned it around by starting and then losing WWII and then going through decades of separation and oppression in the East though.....
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited November 2016
    Start battling to stop Rudy "9/11" Guiliani from being AG.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Just curious, do the democrats have any control in Washington?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    lukin2006 said:

    Just curious, do the democrats have any control in Washington?

    No, just filibuster in Senate but thankfully they are now against it.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    lukin2006 said:

    Just curious, do the democrats have any control in Washington?

    No Hilliary was the perfect candidate to take down democrats everywhere, the republicans played the Hilliary and democrats like a fiddle. Genius!
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    benjs said:

    I'm sure I'm not the only one scratching my head trying to think how I estimated the voting sum of those possessing great deals of socioeconomic and political dissent hellbent on not tolerating Clinton (even if it meant Trump), those in admiration of xenophobic, racist, sexist ideals not-so-subtly alluded to by Donald Trump in the form of policy and/or rhetoric, and people who actually believe that a billionaire comfortable with declaring bankruptcy to not repay his word to stakeholders and contracted labourers.

    Honestly, what comes now? How do we combat the inherent ideals of white supremacy? The inevitable to-be-self-induced pro-isolationist stances of Trumpian America? The setback to the social fabric by teaching us fear each other and become weak to a bigger person to assuage those fears? As an outsider, I can't help but be dumbfounded by this whole situation - and am incredibly afraid.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH !!!!!!! do you talk like this in public as well ? America survived 8 years of Obama I think we'll be just fine with
    President Donald J Trump......Clinton would have been a major concern, think I'll celebrate and go the Gun Range Friday.

    Godfather.



  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    unsung said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Just curious, do the democrats have any control in Washington?

    No, just filibuster in Senate but thankfully they are now against it.
    Well this election must be a nightmare for democrats...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    edited November 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    No sour grapes allowed :nuh_uh:

    The intolerant Trumphadist is telling me to not be intolerant. How hypocritical and passive aggressive of you, racist punk.

    Regulate all you want mods. I don't care anymore like Phil Collins.
    Post edited by InHiding80 on
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Trump is one man.
    He will not destroy you.

    He and republican controlled congress will. But who cares about facts when you're a Trumphadist moron?
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Why the insults??^^^^
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    lukin2006 said:

    Why the insults??^^^^

    Because pjfan has NEVER insulted anyone. :rofl:
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